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Multiculturalism rocks!

I don't see how or why any of that means that criminal convictions should be recorded by race. I fully see why service delivery should be monitored to exclude institutional racism etc especially in the MET. But that is a matter for internal audit
 
Fiona said:
No idea at all Lionking: what is the rationale?
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Because parts of the community offend at a disproportionate level to the community at large and warrant greater police attention. This is hardly controversial.
 
Arcade22 said:
Source:BNP,MPA

Well this was shocking... no wait, it wasn't!
This is something we brain dead racist have known for quite a while now, but don't listen to us who have the answers. :(

And remember, if you're voting anything other than the BNP you're voting the keep the floodgates wide OPEN.
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My Journalistic senses tingled the whole time I read that and then I got to BNP and had my suspicions confirmed.
 
lionking said:
Did you read the MPA report? It is clearly talking about a sample, and the results look disturbing. If it's untrue, it would be great if it were refuted. Is there any evidence that the report is faulty, or must it be incorrect if it is used BMP for political purposes?
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As someone from the Detroit area, I'm wondering what the whole problem is. Bad people commit crimes. If black people are disproportionately poor, and thus inclined to crime, then they will do so statistically more. Yet the victims will be from across the general population (not technically completely true) statistically, which would mean a higher fraction of white victims.

It's just data gathering, what's racist about it? I must be missing something here.
 
lionking said:
I absolutely agree with this. Others seem to be suggesting that it is inappropriate to analyse the ethnicity of culprits.
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The criticism is even more strange as the report clearly states that they are focused on why certain ethnicities are more likely to be the victims as much as on why they are perpetrators.
 
the disproportionate number of African-Americans involved in crimes is simply showing the legacy of slavery and segregation.

unless someone can find a "crime" gene that blacks possess but whites don't.
 
Darth Rotor said:
I think you will find that the convention used in assessing geopolitical areas of the world, Britain is in Europe in the same way that Japan is in Asia, albeit the both of them are largish island nations just off the mainland.

DR
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I think Soapy's remark says that Britain is cool; he just can't find Britian. He probably also gave up rather than have to explain the miscue left behind by geni. ;)
 
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parky76 said:
the disproportionate number of African-Americans involved in crimes is simply showing the legacy of slavery and segregation.

unless someone can find a "crime" gene that blacks possess but whites don't.
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We are talking about the United Kingdom. The blacks under discussion would be most likely Afro-Caribbean and Afro-African in origin.

The report clearly indicates that they believe there are cultural and not genetic reasons behind the disproportionate involvement of blacks as both victims and perpetrators.
 
gtc said:
We are talking about the United Kingdom. The blacks under discussion would be most likely Afro-Caribbean and Afro-African in origin.

The report clearly indicates that they believe there are cultural and not genetic reasons behind the disproportionate involvement of blacks as both victims and perpetrators.
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Of course there is a genetic reason behind gang rape, that nasty Y chromosome. Throw out all the males!
 
Beerina said:
As someone from the Detroit area, I'm wondering what the whole problem is. Bad people commit crimes. If black people are disproportionately poor, and thus inclined to crime, then they will do so statistically more. Yet the victims will be from across the general population (not technically completely true) statistically, which would mean a higher fraction of white victims.

It's just data gathering, what's racist about it? I must be missing something here.
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If your reasoning is legitimate -that is, rape is more common among economically disadvantaged people-, then they should not have recorded ethnicity but income.

The question remains: what are you trying to find out by relating rape to ethnicity? I can only see "genetic causation" as the answer. It wholly misses the fact that there are also cultural and societal influences at play and this stupid omittance is abused by the racists to further their scientifically retarded cause.

If the researchers had, instead of ethnicity, only recorded age, and it would show that young adults rank highest, would Arcade in his intellectually honest, non-politically-correctedness also cynically claim: "youth rocks" and advocate in favor of putting all young adults somewhere else? Personally, I think he would accuse the blacks of stealing the young adult's jobs, which turns these poor youngsters to boredom and crime.

Statistics, boys and girls, offer a very limited view on society.
 
May I suggest the non-racist, colour blind approach of simply shooting all rapists, regardless of colour?

I'm simplistic like that.
 
parky76 said:
the disproportionate number of African-Americans involved in crimes is simply showing the legacy of slavery and segregation.
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Slaverly never legaly existed in england or scotland.
 
Eddie Dane said:
May I suggest the non-racist, colour blind approach of simply shooting all rapists, regardless of colour?

I'm simplistic like that.
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Great idea! It's not like anyone ever gets falsely accused of rape! What could go wrong? :rolleyes:
 
I have no problem with collecting the self-identified ethnicity of criminals and victims of crime, but it does seem to me that we (police/CPS etc.) tend to include ethnicity data collection because we have already decided that there is causality. I would rather a much wider range of data be collected.
 
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