9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[9/11-investigator]

It is also totally contrary to you argument that the 'missing Jews' settled in the Soviet Union. Why would have the Soviet kept them after refusing them in 1940?

I never said that the Jews 'settled' in the USSR after the war. Let's first find some confirmation that they actually were shipped there in the first place. I never thought of it myself until last weekend. Look and thou will find. In one evening!

So, where did they go? Israel? Absurd, immigration to Israel did happen, but nowhere in number close enough to match the 6 millions of missing Jews (Israel's population only reach one third of that in 1958).
So, where did they go! but under the ground of Eastern Poland?

Jews emigrated from the USSR in larger numbers during the last decades of that sorry empire, or prison rather. The authorities were not keen on letting people go. But very lage number eventually did emigrate to Israel or the USA. It would be very interesting to study their family biographies.

 

[Nonpareil]

I never said that the Jews 'settled' in the USSR after the war.

Yes, you did. You claimed that the Germans dumped them in the USSR territory that they claimed during the push to Stalingrad.

Let's first find some confirmation that they actually were shipped there in the first place. I never thought of it myself until last weekend. Look and thou will find. In one evening!

No, you won't, because there is no evidence for it.

Jews emigrated from the USSR in larger numbers during the last decades of that sorry empire, or prison rather. The authorities were not keen on letting people go. But very lage number eventually did emigrate to Israel or the USA. It would be very interesting to study their family biographies.

Derail, duly ignored.

 

[Ignorantbystander]

In 1998, Ignorantbystander scanned the Normandy beaches for 3 days with a 300 $ metal detector searching for shell cases, bullets or any other trace from the alleged allied invasion.
All he found was some coins and a teddybear.

Makes you wonder ,doesn't it 9/11 investigator?

 

[Simon39759]

To be clear, a degree in engineering is not enough qualification, especially considering how he most likely got his engineering degree before this particular piece of equpement became really popular.

He needs previous professional experience handling this equipment.

He'd also need to dispel the doubt about him even carrying the job!

 

[9/11-investigator]

So?


What the comparison between maintaining a web-site and operating a complex piece of equipment?

What does the price of the machinery has to do with anybody's qualification at using it?
Such complex equipement require experience and training operating, that's just that simple and GPR has the reputation of being especially difficult to operate and interpret.

Looks more like grass mowing to me. Any 'undocumented' Mexican can do it. Switch the thing on, start 'mowing', switch it off after you covered the whole field, download the pictures to your laptop and start evaluating. The video is enough proof that Krege did it.

 

[9/11-investigator]

In 1998, Ignorantbystander scanned the Normandy beaches for 3 days with a 300 $ metal detector searching for shell cases, bullets or any other trace from the alleged allied invasion.
All he found was some coins and a teddybear.

Makes you wonder ,doesn't it 9/11 investigator?

Not sure what point you want to make.

 

[Nonpareil]

Looks more like grass mowing to me. Any 'undocumented' Mexican can do it. Switch the thing on, start 'mowing', switch it off after you covered the whole field, download the pictures to your laptop and start evaluating. The video is enough proof that Krege did it.

Even if this is true, you would need professional training to interpret the readings. And the video is not necessarily of the Krege study. Do you really believe that the Krege group let themselves be followed around by a camera crew? Is there any record of this in the information that Krege has put out?

 

[9/11-investigator]

To be clear, a degree in engineering is not enough qualification, especially considering how he most likely got his engineering degree before this particular piece of equpement became really popular.

He needs previous professional experience handling this equipment.

He'd also need to dispel the doubt about him even carrying the job!

I doubt that qualified engineers normally operate these machines, more likely lower skilled personel. The only thing you have to do is walk around with the stupid thing, that's all. A 'cakewalk', to use a once favorite American expression, now somewhat discredited.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

A few pages ago I gave you a youtube link that stated that Krege had not published his findings because he was afraid he had to go to jail, just like Germar Rudolf (and this week in Australia, Krege's home country, Toeben will be released from prison for just running a revisionist website).

But why haven't holocaustians repeated this very simple test? What are they afraid of?

Toeben was charged for defying a court order to remove a particular slanderous comment, not for running a revisionist site. Toeben did not follow the court's instructions concerning this slanderous comment. The judges ruling does not mention revisionism.

Krege can publish what he wants in Australia. He simply cannot state that he is a qualified engineer in this report. This doesn't stop other revisionist releasing books. Why should it stop him? Is it because he didn't "grid" his test area? Did he forget some basic procedure? How can even revisionists validate his "survey" if he doesn't publish?

 

[Nonpareil]

I doubt that qualified engineers normally operate these machines, more likely lower skilled personel. The only thing you have to do is walk around with the stupid thing, that's all. A 'cakewalk', to use a once favorite American expression, now somewhat discredited.

Evidence to support this assertion?

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Even if this is true, you would need professional training to interpret the readings. And the video is not necessarily of the Krege study. Do you really believe that the Krege group let themselves be followed around by a camera crew? Is there any record of this in the information that Krege has put out?

There is a TV show broadcast in the UK and Australia called "time team". Every week we get to watch the "griding" of the test area, the engineer gets his three different machines ( Density, Magnetic resonance, water conductivity) and "mows" the area. He sends his raw data back to the univerity's lab and they send it to him on his laptop.

Which university did Krege use? What software did he use? These are basic questions. If he doesn't publish we will never know.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Waaait a minute, I just found Krege's site ('report') back I had seen many years ago:

http://www.vho.org/VffG/2000/1/Krege62-64.html

This is what I meant all along.

Photo of Krege doing a lecture: http://judicial-inc.biz/Trebli6.jpg

 

[Ignorantbystander]

Not sure what point you want to make.

that unsubstantiated claims are worthless?

 

[Simon39759]

I doubt that qualified engineers normally operate these machines, more likely lower skilled personel. The only thing you have to do is walk around with the stupid thing, that's all. A 'cakewalk', to use a once favorite American expression, now somewhat discredited.

Most likely grad students (about engineer level, then) directed by a PhD with several years of experience in the field.

But taking the picture is not the difficult part, the difficult part is looking at this and making sense of it:

But I guess, 'it looks like a lawnmower' is a much better evaluation of the task' difficulty!

 

[9/11-investigator]

Uhoh, bad news for the sceptics:

http://www.rses.anu.edu.au/research/ee/index.php?p=ee_staff

Krege is listed as a member of the

Research School of Earth Sciences !!!

He IS an expert!

Give him a call and ask when his report will come out and if not, why?

Mr Richard Krege
Email:[email protected]
Phone Number:61257775
Room:112 J7

Hypothesis: he went there because he was professionally acquainted with these devices. Stronger, his link to this institution provided him with the means to borrow this very expensive equipment. And he is not publishing because he has a career to loose!! (Says the head of the department: listen Richard, I know you are a good guy, but I just got a phone call from the Australian jewish Congress. You know how it is. If you publish I am forced to fire you. Please don't make me do it. And think of your family).

Now we understand!!!

What a wonderful invention the internet is.
All the Krege sceptics debunked!
Absolute Breakthrough.

Bye bye Treblinka, all lies.

 

[TSR]

A few pages ago I gave you a youtube link that stated that Krege had not published his findings because he was afraid he had to go to jail,

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Under what law?
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just like Germar Rudolf

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Who didn't publish a scientific report, either -- but who did break German law and then flee the country (and then broke American law)
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(and this week in Australia, Krege's home country, Toeben will be released from prison for just running a revisionist website).
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No, Toeben was jailed for contempt of court, after agreeing to stop publishing material which vilifies the Jewish people." Quite a bit more than just asking questions...

Why must you lie about this?
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But why haven't holocaustians repeated this very simple test? What are they afraid of?

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Well, a test that was never done cannot be repeated.

But if one is then asking why isn't this test done, the answer is: there is no need. The evidence which *does* exist is sufficient to convince anyone without an irrational hatred of an entire group of people most of which they do not know and will never meet.

Anyone*with* such an irrational hatred will never be convinced anyway.
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[9/11-investigator]

Well, a test that was never done cannot be repeated.

That's an utter lie and you know it. You have seen the video.

But if one is then asking why isn't this test done, the answer is: there is no need. The evidence which *does* exist is sufficient to convince anyone without an irrational hatred of an entire group of people most of which they do not know and will never meet.

70 pages and not a shred of evidence. The test is not done because it is not in your ethnic interest. But the sorry story is going to implode like a highrise building stuffed with explosives. And it will be fun to watch. Finally some justice.

Anyone*with* such an irrational hatred will never be convinced anyway.

You have just been debunked by science.

Here you have the pathetic little camp:
http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/pic/bmap13.jpg

 

[Nonpareil]

Uhoh, bad news for the sceptics:

http://www.rses.anu.edu.au/research/ee/index.php?p=ee_staff

Krege is listed as a member of the

Research School of Earth Sciences !!!

He IS an expert!

Give him a call and ask when his report will come out and if not, why?

Mr Richard Krege
Email:[email protected]
Phone Number:61257775
Room:112 J7

Hmm. I'm tempted, but unsure: should I actually do this and send Mr. Krege an email?

Hypothesis: he went there because he was professionally acquainted with these devices. Stronger, his link to this institution provided him with the means to borrow this very expensive equipment. And he is not publishing because he has a career to loose!! (Says the head of the department: listen Richard, I know you are a good guy, but I just got a phone call from the Australian jewish Congress. You know how it is. If you publish I am forced to fire you. Please don't make me do it. And think of your family).

Pure conjecture, and unlikely conjecture at that. It's much more likely that his report simply has nothing valid to say on the subject, and that Mr. Krege realizes this. He hasn't published because publishing such an unfounded report would destroy his career, not because the Jews have a conspiracy to keep him from publishing.

Now we understand!!!

What a wonderful invention the internet is.
All the Krege sceptics debunked!
Absolute Breakthrough.

Bye bye Treblinka, all lies.

LOL

No.

 

[Ignorantbystander]

Hypothesis: he went there because he was professionally acquainted with these devices. Stronger, his link to this institution provided him with the means to borrow this very expensive equipment. And he is not publishing because he has a career to loose!! (Says the head of the department: listen Richard, I know you are a good guy, but I just got a phone call from the Australian jewish Congress. You know how it is. If you publish I am forced to fire you. Please don't make me do it. And think of your family).

So, we're never going to see a report and you do the victory dance?

Absolute breakthrough...

LOL

 

[Nonpareil]

That's an utter lie and you know it. You have seen the video.

Which is not necessarily a video of the actual study taking place.

70 pages and not a shred of evidence.

Finally you realize what we've been saying all along. Thank you for finally admitting that you have no basis for your claims.

The test is not done because it is not in your ethnic interest. But the sorry story is going to implode like a highrise building stuffed with explosives. And it will be fun to watch. Finally some justice.

You have just been debunked by science.

Here you have the pathetic little camp:
http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/pic/bmap13.jpg

Why do you continue to lie?