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Why truthers are dangerouse!

Disgruntled FIRED employee has a lot to make up out of whole cloth

Ex-FBI Translator Claims Spying at DoD
October 21, 2009
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

excerpt:

"In sworn testimony to attorneys on Aug. 8, Sibel Edmonds described a Pentagon where key personnel helped pass defense secrets to foreign agents or provided them names of knowledgeable officials who were vulnerable to blackmail or co-option.

And firmly rooted in this espionage program in the 1990s, according to Edmonds’ deposition, were two men who, with the election of George W. Bush as president in 2000, found themselves in the Pentagon: Douglas Feith, who would head the Office of Special Plans, and Richard Perle, who would become chairman of the Defense Advisory Board.

"They were 100 percent directly involved," Edmonds told Military.com. "They were not in the Pentagon [in the late 1990s] but they had their people inside the Pentagon." One of those people, she said, was Larry Franklin, an Air Force officer assigned to the Office of Special Plans who, in 2003, passed classified information to representatives of the American Israel Public Affairs Office, or AIPAC. By then Feith was leading the OSP."

Hmmm...traitors and spies in the US government pertaining to 911..(Perle, Feith)..sound familiar?

You are tardy. this has all been discussed long ago.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=o...e:randi.org&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=8ec9ea851cee2c5b

For a part time translator who worked less than a year and was only hired AFTER 9/11 . she sure seems to have a lot of "gagged" whistle blowing to do. She's an attention whore. and looks the part.
 
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So this must be a super investigative debunking move...I posted the same point on two different threads the same day. It is MY point and I posted it here first. I would hardly call that spamming sport. "When I get banned"...I guess that is the secret here at JREF...Whenever someone challenges you guys (who rabidly attack 10 against 1) and you all still get your butts handed to you. Then you all run to the moderators en masse and get the person banned. What a pack of gutless slimes. I can see this site operates with all the fairness of a 1950s USSR court. And they even delete the posts to cover the evidence..Critical thinkers ...What a friggin' joke.....Nice...

I must have missed the bit where you handed anyone their butt. All I've seen is a lot of lame attempts at provocation and mindless repitition of stupid lies from CT conmen. Have you seen the way anyone who disagrees with Alex Jones is treated at Prison Planet?

Or have you tried disagreeing with the prevailing CT groupthink at any other "Truth" website?

You think a pair of trained killers with Stanly knives bursting into an aeroplane cockpit is something to sneer at?

Do you expect anyone to be convinced by these insane rants of yours?
 
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According to the professional debunkers here:

FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmunds is a "whore" who is just making things up...

William Rodriguez who risked his own life to save others on 911 sold out for the "big truth" money...He is a dirty liar...

Colonel Bob Bowman who served his country honarably in combat and has an impeccable record is a deranged nut...

Chris Bollyn is a nazi scum and a liar...

Steven Jones former brilliant scientist and physics professor is nothing but a know nothing lunitic whose research is not worth spit....

Ray McGovern 29yr CIA vet who used to prepare the presidents daily briefings is an anti-American jerk...

Anyone who disagrees with the official 911 narrative and expresses his views is making "insane rants", that should be ignored...

It's lies all lies I tell ya!! LOL
 
According to the professional debunkers here:
Professional?

FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmunds is a "whore" who is just making things up...

I believe the phrase was "publicity whore". Why are you telling lies?

William Rodriguez who risked his own life to save others on 911 sold out for the "big truth" money...He is a dirty liar...

Did you see how many times his story changed? I don't know how dirty he might be, but he certainly seems less than completely honest.

Colonel Bob Bowman who served his country honarably in combat and has an impeccable record is a deranged nut...

Being a combat veteran is no guaranty of sanity. If he has said the things that you quoted him as saying, then yes, he is as nutty as squirrel poo...

Chris Bollyn is a nazi scum and a liar...

If you doubt this, try reading some of Mr Bollyn's hate filled anti semitic ravings.

Steven Jones former brilliant scientist and physics professor is nothing but a know nothing lunitic whose research is not worth spit....

Cold Fusion anyone? Jesus walking with Aztecs? A physics prof. trying and failing to do chemistry.
Ray McGovern 29yr CIA vet who used to prepare the presidents daily briefings is an anti-American jerk...

I don't know anything about this guy, but if you find him persuasive, I'll go out on a limb and say that you are either misinterpreting something he said or he is indeed some kind of loony.

Anyone who disagrees with the official 911 narrative and expresses his views is making "insane rants", that should be ignored...

Not everyone. Some of them can be polite and/or funny. You, on the other hand appear to specialise in insane factless rants. I never advocate ignoring anyone. It is too much fun laughing at people like you.
It's lies all lies I tell ya!! LOL

Sometimes it's just too sad. Right now you haven't reached the right pitch of insanity to qualify as sad yet, but keep it up buddy, you'll get there eventually.
 
Only secret services and their current chiefs—or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations—have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. . . . . Osama bin Laden and “Al Qaeda” cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders.

So which of the following were al-Qaeda incapable of?

1. Enrol four guys in flying school. Requires money.
2. Read some airline schedules. Requires basic literacy.
3. Tell four groups of people to get on four different planes on the same day. Requires the ability to find one's own arse (both hands allowed).
4. Hijack planes using knives it was legal to carry-on at the time. Requires basic combat training, possibly at training camps in Afghanistan.
5. Navigate airplanes to targets and crash into them. Requires skills acquired in (1).

That's all it was. Really, what's so difficult?

Dave
 
According to the professional debunkers here:

FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmunds is a "whore" who is just making things up...
I believe that would be "attention whore". It has a meaning. Cite the post you're referring.

William Rodriguez who risked his own life to save others on 911 sold out for the "big truth" money...He is a dirty liar...
Cite the post you're referring to. I will concur with "liar". I do not recall hearing "dirty liar".

Colonel Bob Bowman who served his country honarably in combat and has an impeccable record is a deranged nut...
Correct.
Chris Bollyn is a nazi scum and a liar...
Correct.

Steven Jones former brilliant scientist and physics professor is nothing but a know nothing lunitic whose research is not worth spit....
Correction: former scientist - I've seen no indication that he is or was brilliant, and your testimonial alone isn't going to sway me.

Ray McGovern 29yr CIA vet who used to prepare the presidents daily briefings is an anti-American jerk...
I plead the fifth. I don't have enough knowledge to comment on Ray McGovern. But 29 yrs in the CIA? Wouldn't that tend to worry all you people who see bad guys in any Federal agency. Oh, wait, he's come out... I see.... CIA people who disagree with you = BAD; CIA people who agree with you = GOOD.

Anyone who disagrees with the official 911 narrative and expresses his views is making "insane rants", that should be ignored...
No. That would be just you, at the moment. RedIbis and JihadJane, for instance are very calmly dodging questions in forty-seven threads at once, right now. You're our only ranter of the moment. (There's an opening over in the Israel/Palestine threads. Maybe you could apply there?)

It's lies all lies I tell ya!! LOL
I love that LOL stuff. Can't get enough of it. That sure caps of a good argument real cool!



ETA, Dammit Brainache! I took a long phonecall while replying and you parsed it out almost the same (it's got to be that NWO training for us overseas ops).
 
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See, when I asked for a citation, I meant to a reasonably possible scenerio, not da "magic man done it" answer. Thank you for showing a lack of critical reading comprehension. Your citation does not address the question asked. Massive fail.

What you secretly "meant" in your own head is irrelevant. You asked:

"Please provide a citation or link describing this covert false flag terrorist event that only needed 20 people... I'd love to see it."

I'm not interested in your helping you with your twoofie problems.


Been there, done that. I have forgotten more about covert operations than you will ever know. Again and again... people talk. It happens all over the world. It happens ALL the time. I have great friends who work for interesting multi letter agencies, and every once in a while they will brag about something over a beer, or tell me they wished they didn't do something. Not enough for me to know SPECIFICALLY what it is, but enough to figure it out. Yet it is amazing that NO ONE HAS EVER come forward and said... boy I did something that doesn't make sense on 9/11. Why is that?

Birds of the feather flock together.

It's hard to believe your tale because of your juvenile, bombastic language (reminds me of the infamous bragging fraud, LONGTABBER PE) but that's besides the point. Just because your hypothetical "friends" brag about one thing doesn't mean they aren't telling you about something else. Have you ever thought of that possiblity?



ROFLMAO. Yes twoofie. Iran has absolutely nothing but the interests of happily sharing nuclear power with the world on their minds.

Not sure what you are twoofily implying here - that Iran are going to give nukes to al Qeada like we were told Saddam was going to do? If so, then you have been sucked even deeper into propaganda fairy tales than I thought. Perhaps your "friends" have been feeding you false intelligence as well as beer.

You don't allow states which have stated repeatedly that they want to "wipe" any country off the map the ability to do so.

In other words "No". You've learnt nothing from the last round of lying war propaganda. You are swallowing the current round like a hungry baby bird eager for its next worm.

If Iran had a nuclear bomb (there is, as yet, no evidence that their nuclear power program is military) it is as likely to use it to "wipe Israel off the map" as Saddam Hussein was to bring a mushroom cloud the UK or the USA. Get real, dreamer!

The only state that has used nuclear weapons to wipe people off the map is the USA. For some reason this rogue state is allowed to have as many nuclear weapons as it likes, enough to destroy all human life on Earth. I wonder why.

Iran has never said they want to wipe any country off the map.



careless? boylln (sp) is most definately an antisemite and a bigot. Anyone who will call him an independent journalist and rank themselves together has branded themselves an antisemite..

try again.

You said "neo-nazi" not "bigot" and weren't addressing "boylln" (I wonder how much you really know about his politics if you can't even be bothered to find out how to spell his name). The second sentence is a non-sequitur. It doesn't justify your cheap, careless name-calling in the slightest.




Not particularly... but since it is intended to show just how stupid and silly the person I was answering is, it completes its objective.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

From where I sit all it shows is that you yourself are "stupid and silly". Would you use that kind of language when addressing Jews, Persians or Arabs? Would you, for example, talk to Iraqis and demonstrate your anti-nazi credentials by mouthing off about "ragheads" to their faces?
 
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No. That would be just you, at the moment. RedIbis and JihadJane, for instance are very calmly dodging questions in forty-seven threads at once, right now.

What is the purpose of telling lies like this,
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edited for civility.
 
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Really?

And having read the further out bursts, you still think that I am weird and jmh423 is what? Rational? Sane? Dangerous? I really want your opinion here, JJ, tell me exactly how you view his posts. Deluded? Rational? Sane? maybe some guy you would like to invite round to your house and have a few drinks with? Enlighten me.

Enlighten me as to why I shouldn't view irrational, fringe, extremist’s opinions as dangerous and why you decided it was weird of me to do so.

Please keep going jmh423; I am curious as to how far JJ will go to defend you.

I didn't say you were weird. I said your idea of what constitutes danger was.

Please describe exactly what the danger is and who is in danger.

(Wot u sed: "And here it is, an almost perfect post that answers the OP, the reason why truthers are dangerous.")




BTW: I'm addressing the subject of the OP, not defending jmh423. I don't drink alcohol but you're both welcome to come round for a coffee .


Really, sport? Bloody kidding mate? That a US term is it?


Sounds Oz to me.


Or is it some guy who is trying to pretend to be from the US and not from Manchester?

Typical ignorant, imperial arrogance trying to claim other people's languages as their own, stateofgrace!

Very dangerouse!

Perhaps he's Boris Epstein as well.
 
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JJ,

"Repetition doesn't transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt

Just how many lies have you told already?

and...

When are you going to produce some evidence on your behalf?

Alot of people here want you the give us the evidence, not run your mouth off.
 
An old adage revisited: All arguments from incredulity, appeal to emotion, and appeal to authority and no evidence makes jmh423 dull boy.
 
Is it? Sounds Oz to me.

Typical ignorant, imperial arrogance trying to claim other people's languages as their own, stateofgrace!

Very dangerouse!

That's it is it JJ? That’s the best you can do?

Pray enlighten me further, because to date you have called me a typical ignorant, arrogant, dangerous, weirdo. Of course you have done so under to guise of civil debate.

Tell me why I am suddenly so dangerous and why you, a beacon of civility, should not be reported for breach of membership agreement?
 
I didn't say you were weird. I said your idea of what constitutes danger was.

Please describe exactly what the danger is and who is in danger.

In response to your edit. The mindset is the danger JJ. The mindset that demonises innocent people and imagines there is an enemy there, when there is not.

In my, arrogant weirdo, mindset there is a danger in indulging in paranoid fantasies and then barking words such as "traitor" as those you suddenly perceive as an enemy. Of course you have read the rest of his posts and fully agree with him, right? You see nothing wrong in his posts, right? You feel totally at ease and not in the slightest bit uncomfortable demonising me because I may view this mindset as dangerous, right? All the while not uttering a single word of condemnation for such posts, why is that JJ?

And will stop editing your posts, after members have already replied.
 
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Everybody, let's eliminate the name-calling and other incivilities. If you cannot stay within the MA, this thread will be shut down.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 

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