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As far as I can tell there is no particular difference in Australia between Ketchup and Tomato Sauce.

In the U.S. tomato sauce is pureed tomatos, usually, in a little can. You use it to make spaghetti sauce and other things. Ketchup (Catsup) is a seasoned tomato sauce that we put on meat (such as hamburgers) and french fries (chips). I really, really, miss fish and chips served up in a cone made of newspaper and seasoned with a shake of malt vinegar. I miss the french fries in Copenhagen because they had this stuff to dip the french fries in. It was white and was sort of like mayonaisse...so good. Ah well, I won't tell y'all about suffering from jet lag and sitting in an outdoor cafe in Copenhagen and after drinking 6 Elephant Beers I stood up and...;)
 
As far as I can tell there is no particular difference in Australia between Ketchup and Tomato Sauce.


Kewlies. I think I'll stick to the White Crow.

Thanks gtc, for the Australian part of the answer. Here comes Her Audibleness with the Yanks' side of the story.



In the U.S. tomato sauce is pureed tomatos, usually, in a little can. You use it to make spaghetti sauce and other things. Ketchup (Catsup) is a seasoned tomato sauce that we put on meat (such as hamburgers) and french fries (chips).


Aha! All is now revealed. Going along with gtc's observation, US ketchup = Aussie tomato sauce.

That stuff in a little can that you use to make spaghetti sauce and other things is officially known (to me, anyways) as That Stuff in a Little Can that You Use to Make Spaghetti Sauce and Other Things


I really, really, miss fish and chips served up in a cone made of newspaper and seasoned with a shake of malt vinegar.


Wows! Don't you poor people have anything good to eat at all? I have fish (flake) and chips about once a week. Only way I ever catch up on the news,really. Lemon is good too. Time was when everyone had a lemon tree for just that purpose, although I think less so these days.


I miss the french fries in Copenhagen because they had this stuff to dip the french fries in. It was white and was sort of like mayonaisse...so good.


Danish french fries? I know a Swedish fruit loop. I wonder how they'd go together. ;)

Mayonnaise goes with everything. I love mayonnaise sangers (sandwiches). I make my own mayo so I can put extra mustard in it. Yummo!


Ah well, I won't tell y'all about suffering from jet lag and sitting in an outdoor cafe in Copenhagen and after drinking 6 Elephant Beers I stood up and...;)


Six Elephant Beers and you're gonna try and blame it on jet lag?

Sounds like we need to meet up for a little drinky, however, since I'm relying on continental drift for all my overseas travel needs, it may be some time.


Cheers Mate

:)
 
I too will have to wait for continetal drift and I can barely drink one Elephant Beer before I'm buzzed. Those days of drinking like that are long gone but they were fun.
 
There is often a lot of discussion about what being Australian actually means. The answers are often as diverse as the people giving them. So I was wondering, what symbol, image, song film....anything really that, in your mind best answers that question

For me it is the last verse of the highly emotive poem from Dorathea McKella "My Country"

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land –
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand –
Though earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.
 
Funny you should mention that.

The bloke who wrote this website feels much the same.

:)


Linky

Well I can certainly sense her home sickness.

I remember going to an art exhibition years ago. There was this amazing painting of the Three Sisters...It was so good you thought you could step through the painting into the Blue Mountain.....Turns out Sidnau Nolan painted the image from memory in a studio in London :jaw-dropp

I remember at the time thinking...you were one home sick dude
 
Well I can certainly sense her home sickness.

I remember going to an art exhibition years ago. There was this amazing painting of the Three Sisters...It was so good you thought you could step through the painting into the Blue Mountain.....Turns out Sidnau Nolan painted the image from memory in a studio in London :jaw-dropp

I remember at the time thinking...you were one home sick dude


Just remember Mate, you forced me into posting this. :)



I've been to cities that never close down
from New York to Rio and old London town,
but no matter how far or how wide I roam
I still call Australia home.

I'm always traveling, I love being free,
and so I keep leaving the sun and the sea,
but my heart lies waiting over the foam.
I still call Australia home.

All the sons and daughters spinning 'round the world,
away from their family and friends,
but as the world gets older and colder,
it's good to know where your journey ends.

But someday we'll all be together once more
when all of the ships come back to the shore.
Then I realise something I've always known.
I still call Australia home.


- Peter Allen​



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Good old Peter Allen - I was never a real fan of his music, but he was a guy no matter how much fame he got around the world, never forgot where home was.

When ever there was benefit concerts for bush fires or some such, he used to ring and always offer his services....Even when in the middle of tours. Deserves a lot of respect just for that
 
This should be our national anthem.

Travelling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said,

"Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."

Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six foot four and full of muscles
I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said,

"I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."

Lying in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"
And he said,

"Oh! Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."
 
Good old Peter Allen - I was never a real fan of his music, but he was a guy no matter how much fame he got around the world, never forgot where home was.

When ever there was benefit concerts for bush fires or some such, he used to ring and always offer his services....Even when in the middle of tours. Deserves a lot of respect just for that


I worded my post poorly and may have caused a misunderstanding. I'm a hooge Peter Allen fan.

I was kinda thinking that posting his song might bring on a few tears, and I was apologising for that in advance, sorta.

My favourite number of Peter's is a cover of The More I See You, and I enjoy listening to it at least once a month or so, when it comes around on the playlist. I'll never get sick of it.

Peter Allen was, in a word, Fabulous.



gtc I suspect many will never realise how true those words are


Well, I'm tryin' ter re-edumicate these furriners, but they think funny. They'll figger it out eventually.


Cheers Mate


;)



ETA: I'll start work on a Peter Allen post I think. He was/is a good ambassador for us, as you pointed out. Kewl idea, thanks! :)
 
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I worded my post poorly and may have caused a misunderstanding. I'm a hooge Peter Allen fan.

No thats fine, we cant all have the same tastes. However I have huge respect for him because at a time when many Australian performers where shedding their Australian roots to further their international careers. He remained fiercely patriot and proud of his heritage.

I was kinda thinking that posting his song might bring on a few tears, and I was apologising for that in advance, sorta.

Oh dont apologise for that. It is a beautiful song, and hits the spot knowing just what crazy travellers Australians are. I also believe Australians become homesick because of the uniqueness of the land.

People often ask me what I miss most...ya gonna laugh, but it is the smell. The Australian bush has this magic it spins on the senses. Something I never even thought about till I was here...and missing it lol

And the Down under Song, Australians do really act like that when they catch up. You go from complete stranger to best cobber in 10 seconds flat. I also find a similar kinship with New Zealanders as well, though they tend to be more concentrated on the West coast, and harder to find
 
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<snip>Well, I'm tryin' ter re-edumicate these furriners, but they think funny. They'll figger it out eventually.<snip>

I like Peter Allen. Hell, I might even like Vegamite. :)
 
Peter Allen - Australian Singer/Songwriter 1944-1992


Born Peter Richard Woolnough on 10 February 1944 in the New South Wales country town of Tenterfield, Peter grew up in nearby Armidale and began his career there when he was 11, singing in the local pub. His grandfather George Woolnough was the Tenterfield saddler later referred to in the song of that name, whilst his father hit the grog after coming home from WWII and eventually did himself in while Peter was quite young.


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Peter Allen


He taught himself piano, quit school at age 14 and the following year, in Surfers Paradise, created The Allen Brothers with Chris Bell. Their first major appearance was on the Australian musical variety show Bandstand in 1959.

In 1961 they had a local hit single with My Secret and embarked on a tour of the Far East. During this tour Peter came to the attention of Judy Garland's husband, Mark Herron, while the 'brothers' were performing in Hong Kong. He was invited perform with Judy in both London and the United States. Miss Garland introduced Peter to her daughter, Liza Minnelli, and the two became engaged.

How cool is that for a country boy who taught himself to play the piano?

The Allen Brothers made their American debut at the Diplomat Hotel in Miami in December 1964, and they moved to New York semi-permanently. For the rest of the 1960s, they appeared in clubs around the U.S., notably at the various Playboy Clubs.

After a lengthy engagement, Allen and Minnelli married on March 3, 1967. They should have made it longer. For reasons that will become increasingly obvious, it was never gonna end well.

Peter became part of a large, internationally-known group of singer-songwriters prevalent in the early 1970s as well as becoming involved in writing more commercial music. While he was working for wages at Metromedia Records, he co-wrote Jennifer with Carole Bayer Sager. The song became a Top 40 hit in the Autumn of 1971 and Metromedia signed Peter to record his own album. An eponymous album was released in 1971, and 1972 along came Tenterfield Saddler.

Somewhat unfortunately, by this time Peter and Liza had separated, finally divorcing in July, 1974. He was teh Ghey, you see, so it was always doomed. It wasn't easy in those days, and it's a pity he felt so constrained by the need to 'keep up appearances'. Bummer.

Anyway, after his initial successes he was signed by A&M Records, and released a third album, Continental American. In 1976 came Taught by Experts, which featured The More I See You, a song also covered reasonably by that Sinatra dude. Not a patch on our Peter's version though. ;)


Some other highlights of this period were:

♫ He wrote Don't Cry Out Loud which was recorded by Melissa Manchester.

♫ He wrote I'd Rather Leave While I'm In Love, which was recorded by Rita Coolidge.

I Go to Rio, another of Peter's songs, was a hit in America for the band Pablo Cruise.

♫ Peter wrote his biggest hit I Honestly Love You which he co-wrote with Jeff Barry and which became a major hit in 1974 for Olivia Newton-John.

ONJ's single reached number one in the United States and Canada and won two Grammy Awards, for Record of the Year and Best Female Pop Vocal Performance for Newton-John. Take that, you Livvy Bashers™. She are good, albeit a little ditzy.​

♫ Peter was top-of-the-bill at Radio City Music Hall, where he danced with the Rockettes and rode a camel whilst performing I Go to Rio.
As one does.​


In 1981 Carole Bayer Sager, Burt Bacharach and Christopher Cross needed to write a theme song for the film comedy Arthur and CB-S contributed some lines from a song she co-wrote with Peter some time previously. When you get caught between the moon and New York City. thus became part of the chorus of Arthur's Theme which topped the charts for Cross in Autumn 1981 and won Peter and his fellow songwriters the Academy Award for best song.

But he was just getting warmed up! During the 1980s:


♫ Peter performed before Queen Elizabeth II in 1980 at The Sydney Opera House

♫ He sang and danced for Prince Charles and Princess Diana, once in Melbourne and again in Sydney for the opening of The Sydney Entertainment Centre, where he first wore the most fabulous shirt in the history of everything. Check it out!​


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Made of 100% Australian Win!



♫ Peter performed at the 1980 Australian Rules Grand Final in Melbourne before commencing the hugely successful Up In One concert tour.

♫ When Australia won The America's Cup, he flew to Perth to sing before an audience of 100,000.

♫ He opened for Frank Sinatra in 1988 at Sanctuary Cove, Queensland.

♫ He also appeared at the celebrations of the 30th Anniversary of Disneyland.

♫ In 1990 he recorded his final album, Making Every Moment Count, which featured Melissa Manchester and Harry Connick Jr.

One of the songs from this album became popular through its use in television commercials, initially for National Panasonic® and then after 1988 for Qantas Airlines® It was titled I Still Call Australia Home


From the 1970s to 1984 Peter had a long-time companion and lover, Gregory Connell, who was a fashion model from Texas and the designer of the sound and lights for Peter's shows as well as performing as a backup singer. Connell died from an AIDS-related illness in September 1984 at their home in California.

Shortly before his own death from an AIDS-related throat cancer, Peter gave his last performance in Sydney on 26 January (Australia Day) 1992. His ashes were scattered at sea.



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That's a lot of records


A stage musical based on Peter's life, titled The Boy from Oz opened in Australia in 1998. Using his largely autobiographical songs, the production starred Todd McKenney as Peter and Christina Amphlett of the Divinyls as Judy Garland. In 2003, the musical opened on Broadway, becoming the first Australian musical ever to be performed there. In this production Allen was played by Hugh Jackman, who won a Tony Award for his portrayal in 2004. Jackman performed this role again two years later when the show toured large arenas in Australia.


A fabulous life.



Tenterfield Saddler​

The late George Woolnough
Worked on High Street
Lived on Manors
52 years, he sat on his veranda
And made his saddles
And if you had questions
'Bout sheep or flowers or dogs
You just asked the saddler
He lived without sin
They're building a library for him

Time is a traveller
Tenterfield saddler
Turn your head
Ride again Jackaroo
Think I see kangaroo up ahead

The son of George Woolnough
Went off and got married
And had a war baby
But something was wrong
And it's easier to drink than go crazy
And if there were questions about why
The end was so sad
Well, George had no answers
About why a son
Ever has need of a gun

Time is a traveller
Tenterfield saddler
Turn your head
Ride again Jackaroo
Think I see kangaroo up ahead

The grandson of George
Has been all around the world
And lives no special place
Changed his last name
And he married a girl
With an interesting face
He'd almost forgotten them both
Because in this life that he leads
There's nowhere for George and his library
Or the son with his gun to belong
Except in this song

Time is a traveller
Tenterfield saddler
Turn your head
Ride again Jackaroo
Think I see kangaroo up ahead

Time is a meddler
Tenterfield saddler
Make your bed
Fly away cockatoo
Down on the ground
Emu up ahead

Time is a taleteller
Tenterfield saddler
Turn your head
Ride again Jackaroo
Think I see kangaroo up ahead

Time is a taleteller
Tenterfield saddler
Turn your head
Ride again Jackaroo
Think I see kangaroo up ahead
- Peter Allen, Australian​







I like Peter Allen. Hell, I might even like Vegemite. :)


Yeah, he's OK.

;)



Cheers,

Dave
 
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Miss Garland introduced Peter to her daughter, Liza Minnelli, and the two became engaged.

<snip>He was teh Ghey, you see, so it was always doomed. It wasn't easy in those days, and it's a pity he felt so constrained by the need to 'keep up appearances'. Bummer.
Not the last gay guy to fall for Liza Minelli, that's for sure!

Very interesting, though.

There was something I was going to ask you about, but it's buried in my brain fog, I guess... Maybe someday I'll remember.
 

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