Merged Swine Flu Shot Not Like Eating a Hot Dog

[r-j]

Don't you need to study a topic before you pontificate on it?

That made me laugh! Thanks.

I thought this was a serious thread at first. About hot dogs.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Funny that the fear-mongers should object to squalene. Wikipedia says it's an organic compound.

ETA: Found this on Wikipedia:

There have been attempts to link Squalene to Gulf War Syndrome. One study found that deployed Persian Gulf War Syndrome patients are significantly more likely to have antibodies to squalene (95 percent) than asymptomatic Gulf War veterans (0 percent; p<.001),[8] , however the study is concluded with the following statement: "It is important to note that our laboratory-based investigations do not establish that squalene was added as adjuvant to any vaccine used in military or other personnel who served in the Persian Gulf War era." A later study discovered that all humans have squalene antibodies in their blood, regardless of whether or not they received squalene from a vaccination.[9]
The World Health Organization and the Department of Defense have both published extensive reports, which clearly state that Squalene did not exist in any vaccines (Anthrax or otherwise) given to soldiers during the Gulf War, and specify that Squalene is a naturally occurring chemical that is present even in oils of our fingerprints. WHO goes further to explain that squalene has been present in over 22 million flu vaccines given to patients in Europe since 1997 and there have never been any reported adverse reactions. Both WHO and the US DoD conclude that Squalene is completely safe.[6][9]

ETA2:

Hotdogs have four times as much squalene as a vaccine!!

My post wasn't a joke. ETA3: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990167,00.html. One of several sources.

 

[r-j]

But stay away from tomatoes.

You weren't joking?

 

[HeyLeroy]

Squalene... using supplements, and a good diet.

Plagiarism reported.

http://www.rense.com/general87/blay2.htm

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

http://voices.injuryboard.com/misce...-the-dangers-of-squalene.aspx?googleid=271748

Read side effects underneath the video and good luck with that Swine Fu shot. I'll pass.

Good, all the more vaccine for the people intelligent enough to consider the risks of the disease as well as the risks of the vaccine when deciding whether to be vaccinated against something.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

You weren't joking?

No. Tomato juice does contain four times the methanol of a can of diet coke with aspartame as a sweetener.

Good, all the more vaccine for the people intelligent enough to consider the risks of the disease as well as the risks of the vaccine when deciding whether to be vaccinated against something.

Also less bitching from the fear-mongers, who will all be sick with swine flu? Yay!

 

[Eos of the Eons]

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4127

When you hear claims that are supported only by a fringe minority that's in opposition to the scientific consensus, you have good reason to be skeptical right off the bat, but it doesn't mean it's not worth looking into. Aspartame has been looked into ad nauseum even after its approval, and found safe at every try; so at some point you have to depart from rationality to continue supporting the claims made against it. Enjoy your diet Dr. Pepper, it's not going to hurt you; if it was, I'd have been dead decades ago.

That first sentence also goes for vaccines. Then, once yous see what is actually in vaccines and how they work, you can realize that taking fringe minority crappola seriously is not a smart idea.

 

[Chris Haynes]

I've found that article all over the internet, including Prison planet and Rensedotcom.

It was written by a Dr. Russell Blaylock. Website here

It sounds impressive, but technically, it's way over my head

Blaylock is a crackpot. He used to claim he was on the faculty of the medical school at the University of Mississippi. Then some of us did some research and found out that not only was he not associated with Ole Miss, but he did not even have the name of the school right. Someone contacted the university, and the affiliation was dropped from his website. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Russell_Blaylock (that is not me, as I said there were a few of us).

He may have been a real doctor a long time ago before he retired, but he was never a toxiologist nor virologist nor any type of specialist that would qualify him to write the stuff he does. He does, however, sell supplements.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4127

:thumbs up:

 

[NobbyNobbs]

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig’s disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart’s inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

Because squalene, the main ingredient in MF-59, can induce hyperimmune responses and induce autoimmunity, a real danger exists for prolonged activation of the brain’s immune cells, the microglia. This type of prolonged activation has been strongly associated with such diseases as multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, ALS and possibly vaccine-related encephalitis. It has been shown that activation of the systemic immune system, as occurs with vaccination, rapidly activates the brain’s microglia at the same time, and this brain inflammation can persist for long periods.

I can't speak for the rest, but I happen to know that concerning ALS servicemen in general, as well as policemen and firemen, are twice as likely to have the disease whether they've had squalene or not.

 

[r-j]

No. Tomato juice does contain four times the methanol of a can of diet coke with aspartame as a sweetener.

You are wrong about that. A can of diet coke contains 0% methanol. Tomato juice may have a tiny amount, but diet coke has none at all.

 

[shawmutt]

Also less bitching from the fear-mongers, who will all be sick with swine flu? Yay!

Unfortunately, as we all know, vaccines are not 100% effective. There will always responsible folks getting sick from the actions (or inaction) of gullible sheep.

 

[paximperium]

Blaylock is a crackpot. He used to claim he was on the faculty of the medical school at the University of Mississippi. Then some of us did some research and found out that not only was he not associated with Ole Miss, but he did not even have the name of the school right. Someone contacted the university, and the affiliation was dropped from his website. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Russell_Blaylock (that is not me, as I said there were a few of us).

He may have been a real doctor a long time ago before he retired, but he was never a toxiologist nor virologist nor any type of specialist that would qualify him to write the stuff he does. He does, however, sell supplements.

Going through his bio on his website, his "peer reviewed" publications are pay to play money making journals. He does not look published at all. He seems to write books before publishing any papers on his research as well.
His credentials are not very impressive.

 

[Deranged]

Blaylock is a crackpot. He used to claim he was on the faculty of the medical school at the University of Mississippi. Then some of us did some research and found out that not only was he not associated with Ole Miss, but he did not even have the name of the school right. Someone contacted the university, and the affiliation was dropped from his website. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Russell_Blaylock (that is not me, as I said there were a few of us).

He may have been a real doctor a long time ago before he retired, but he was never a toxiologist nor virologist nor any type of specialist that would qualify him to write the stuff he does. He does, however, sell supplements.

Another "Quack" like Dr Blaylock , neurosurgeon, on D3 for swine flu and the immune system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8tK0n18Als

Yep; you can just Tell he's a quack too.....

 

[paximperium]

Another "Quack" like Dr Blaylock , neurosurgeon, on D3 for swine flu and the immune system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8tK0n18Als

Yep; you can just Tell he's a quack too.....

Yes, he is a quack. With his first claim "People who take vitamin D, never get sick..." which is not supported with anything but because his say so.

Do you have ACTUAL evidence besides the noise coming from quacks? You know, actual data and published evidence and studies?
Would you like me to throw the entire CDC and NIH's credentials against you micro-list of quacks?

 

[Estellea]

That's Dr. Donald C. Miller, a cardiac surgeon at the University of Washington Health Centre. He used to be sane but for several years now has been catering to the anti-vax whacko brigade with submissions to vanity presses and he's a whale.to fave. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

[paximperium]

That's Dr. Donald C. Miller, a cardiac surgeon at the University of Washington Health Centre. He used to be sane but for several years now has been catering to the anti-vax whacko brigade with submissions to vanity presses and he's a whale.to fave. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Good to know. Know the name, haven't seem his face before.

 

[portlandatheist]

Here is more quacking from Dr. Donald C. Miller
Questioning HIV/AIDS, Human-Caused Global Warming, and Other Orthodoxies in the Biomedical Sciences

 

[Chris Haynes]

Here is a nice compilation of cranks and quacks:
http://www.medicalveritas.com/expertauthors.html

You will also notice that Blaylock has written for that "journal", http://www.medicalveritas.com/vol5issue1.php

There must be some kind of medical reason for these guys who used to be competent doctors to go turn into cranks. Something that is much more subtle than what happened to Rebecca Carley.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Deranged, if you're going to cut-and-paste a bunch of baloney from Newsmax.com you should give them credit. Or blame.

You know how to wash your hair? Lather, rinse, repeat. You know how to wash your brain? Newsmax, Rense, repeat.