9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Trojan]

Thank you for bringing Treblinka up...


So far so good. Until some Australian smarties got the luminous idea of investigating the soil in Treblinka with penetrating ground radar. Result: the soil had been untouched since the last ice age.

Treblinka exit.
It did not happen.
Nice try.

Krege is preparing a detailed report on his Treblinka investigation. He says that he would welcome the formation, possibly under United Nations auspices, of an international team of neutral, qualified specialists, to carry out similar investigations at the sites of all the wartime German camps.

The promise of a detailed report was made in 1999

Never came

Much like your 'proof' standards, Krege thinks an accusation is all that is needed -- muddy the waters and watch everyone scramble.

Call a hack a hack, admit Krege and Leuchter are frauds and move on to more constructive discussions.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Since gassing operations are done in secrecy and within the same building, why would you expect to see it in a photo from a passing plane?

Its not possible to see a gas chamber filled with corpses unless you blow the roof off the building

Sigh, who is talking about taking pictures from a plane?

I repeat what I said in post #1652: "Of course you did not since you cannot. Nobody can. Nobody ever saw one corps that was gassed. If it is true that millions of people died in this way, as you claim, would you not agree that at least one German soldier or officer should have followed his conscience and illegally make pictures of the events that were repeated thousands and thousands times (according to orthodoxy). But there is no single photograph. Nothing."

Be a man and admit you are a racist and a neonazi.

Forget it. I admit I have soft racialist tendencies but I am anti-totalitarian hence not a neo-nazi. I like my Holland as it is but that is enough to be framed as a neo-nazi by Jews like you. Who cares, you are about to fall flat on your face anyway, as usual in history. I mean you did hear that a 9/11-commission member today told that his own report was based on lies?

I love it, I have bought a couple of good bottles of wine, some fine cheese and I am going to enjoy the show on CNN.

Holy cow!

Don't go away.

 

[9/11-investigator]

The promise of a detailed report was made in 1999

Never came

Baloney, he published his findings on the internet. Look it up for yourself. Nobody refuted it, just ignored it.

 

[Trojan]

Sigh, who is talking about taking pictures from a plane?

You did -- you linked to aerial photos of Dresden as proof of a Holocaust - as if bombed out buildings are proof that thousands died.

I repeat what I said in post #1652: "Of course you did not since you cannot. Nobody can. Nobody ever saw one corps that was gassed. If it is true that millions of people died in this way, as you claim, would you not agree that at least one German soldier or officer should have followed his conscience and illegally make pictures of the events that were repeated thousands and thousands times (according to orthodoxy). But there is no single photograph. Nothing."

How do you figure no one say a corpse that was gassed??? The prisoners that emptied the gas chambers and the prisoners that put them into crematoriums saw them -- as have many others.

 

[Trojan]

Baloney, he published his findings on the internet. Look it up for yourself. Nobody refuted it, just ignored it.

Link it

link a detailed scientific report

not a news artcile and not a youtube video -- link a detailed scientific report

it has NEVER been published

learn the history you wish to deny and learn what revisionst say -- come back when you have the intelligence to continue this discussion

 

[dudalb]

He's in a world of his own isn't he? A sick,twisted world.

The words "Sick,Twisted" and "Anti Semetic" go together.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Link it

link a detailed scientific report

not a news artcile and not a youtube video -- link a detailed scientific report

it has NEVER been published

Here is a start:

http://www.vho.org/VffG/2000/1/Krege62-64.html

I never said it was published in book form; I have seen these radar pictures somewhere on the internet. Doesn't make a difference.

But after some searching I found this interesting thread:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1245&highlight=

Staring YOU as early as 2004. In the end you got a bit silent.

I see there is an mp3 interview with Colin Piper in that thread. Going to listen to it now, provided I don't fall asleep over it. 1:30 am here and a busy working day tomorrow.

 

[JFM]

I refuse to read through pages of what is likely, despicable drivel. So I'll just say this, in case no one else has: The Nazis said they did it, so did the victims. Now, WTF about that is hard to understand?

 

[Trojan]

Here is a start:

http://www.vho.org/VffG/2000/1/Krege62-64.html

I never said it was published in book form; I have seen these radar pictures somewhere on the internet. Doesn't make a difference.

A youtube video is not a published study, neither is a newspaper article - which is all you have -- so again, either you lied or are ignorant.

A single radar snapshot is not a published study.

Scholars and historians do not consider youtube to be a reputable source. Neither do I.

But after some searching I found this interesting thread:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1245&highlight=

Staring YOU as early as 2004. In the end you got a bit silent.

My posts were deleted and I was banned. Your getting worse at this.

I see there is an mp3 interview with Colin Piper in that thread. Going to listen to it now, provided I don't fall asleep over it. 1:30 am here and a busy working day tomorrow.

So you are basically researching this as you go along ...

 

[Moss]

You still fail to answer me investigator. What's the problem? Can't disprove it?
And for Treblinka: Why would Franz Stangl only come up with the lame defense of "I only did my duty there." if the gassings didn't happen? It somehow eludes me why the original nazis never claimed the Holocaust did not happen during their trials.
And why didn't Krege publish anything worthwhile about Treblinka? Maybe because he was lying?
Maybe you want to read this. But it might challenge your beliefs, so be careful, lest we co-conspirators against the nazis take you in.

 

[Ignorantbystander]

Krege report > Treblinka exit.

LOL, says enough about your 'investigating' capabilities...

hysteria...

 

[headscratcher4]

How do you figure no one say a corpse that was gassed??? The prisoners that emptied the gas chambers and the prisoners that put them into crematoriums saw them -- as have many others.

Obviously, of course, unreliable witnesses...either because they are dead (the Germans had a habit of killing the Soundercomando (sp?)) or because they suffer from an unrestrained predjudice against Germany and Germans and were more than willing to lie to lible aand slander otherwise honorable Germans (it is so typical of the Jews) whose only "crime" (if you can even call it that) is locking up hundreds of thousands of allegedly innocent (but they were jews, so how innocent could they be? I mean, the whole motzah made with the blood of christian babies stuff) men, women and children and hold them in conditions where they are, unfrotunately, subjected to starvation rations (if only the allies hadn't dented the production capacity of German industry and agriculture), subjected to horrible medical conditions (if only the countries fighting the germans hadn't been so effective killing and wonding German invaders, than more medical help could have been provided to the camps).

So those who allegedly cleaned out the gas chambers, stacked and burned the bodies in their hateful predjudice are willing to lie, just as Nazi's like Hoess and Eichman were forced to lie in allied courts. Its all lies? Don't you understand? All the documents, photos, achetectual drawings, recorded speeches, moving pictures, diaries and witness recollection are all lies.

Only Bradly Smith, Irving and one or two other intreped historians have ever been able to accurately judge the evidence.

Geez, get it together.

 

[dafydd]

Everybody knows that Treblinka and Auswitch were holiday camps.Ask 911 Investigator.

 

[headscratcher4]

This alleged Krege report is just another dodge like citing Leuchtner. Go back to the near beginning of this thread. 9/11 dropped Leuchtner into the conversation as providing "expert proof" that no gas chambers existed at Auschwitz. Once it was demonstrably pointed out to him that Leuchtner had no credibility, he denied that he ever posited the Leuchtner report as credible and went on to his next dodge.

Like all denires, they through these allegedly "expert" reports, studies, etc. into conversations hoping that you won't know what they are or the severe limitations of the alleged studies, and somehow think that no one will know/challenge those limitations.

Its pathetic, intellectually and morally dishonest...but, when your who racial, political and ethical position rests on a sandbar of dishonesty, what can you expect?

 

[Ignorantbystander]

Sigh, nobody denies cremation in Treblinka since many people died there as everybody admits, including revisionists.

One of the most damning refutations of mass killings in Treblinka was the result of this investigation: One Third of the Holocaust.

your friend Denierbud seems to make a big deal of open air mass cremations in these video's. And the corpses piled on railway grids as seen on the photo seem very similar to what eyewitnesses described as the cremation method at Treblinka. So, please explain why this method would work on the Altmarkt at Dresden but not at Treblinka.

furthermore; yes, no denier denies the existence of Treblinka as a camp.
But even if it was a transit or work camp, shouldn't it have left at least some traces in the ground Krege covered? You admit , at least some people should have died there.
So maybe some tiny little graves? latrines? foundations of buildings?

Not to mention the Treblinka goldrush? or is that a hoax too?

 

[Jontg]

You seem to 'forget' that I have repeatedly advocated abandoning America and start an alliance between the EU and Russia. (*)

So much for your 'Untermenschen' insinuations.

Oh, and after the Zionist power structure has inevitable crashed (**), we could even consider letting rump America rejoin European Civilization (as a junior partner) after they have redefined themselves as a 'Distinct European Society' (Canadians should be familiar with this concept).

(*) - Putin said something very interesting recently: "We're not against reexamining some of the events which led to WWII, but we want this examination to be objective. The world after WWI was rebuilt with mistakes. The Versailles agreement humiliated Germans. One can't humiliate other nations, especially such a great one as Germany. It later gave fascists the right to say They were unjust to us. We will take revenge!, Vladimir Putin said. The Russian Prime Minister continued, saying that having freed Europe from Nazis, the Soviet people could not give it freedom, because they werent free themselves. There were prison camp inmates and those who opened prison camps in the USSR. Why blame one country for everything? Putin said, as quoted by the Itar-Tass.". Again my top 3 favorite politicians: 1) Putin 2) Ahmadinejadh 3) Ron Paul

(**) - even the 9/11 commission is abandoning their own silly report (after all 9/11-comission members do have a neck), now the government has entirely become dependant on JREF and NIST.

(**) - even the 9/11 commission is abandoning their own silly report (after all 9/11-comission members do have a neck), now the government has entirely become dependant on JREF and NIST.

(**) - now the government has entirely become dependant on JREF and NIST.

entirely become dependant on JREF.

dependant on JREF.

JREF

You honestly don't have a god damn clue, do you, Fritz? You think the JREF is some sort of emergency propaganda outlet? The last line of defense against The Truth?
We're the first, you tulip-huffing blackshirt!
We're random schlubs on the gorram internet! Ordinary people, students and plumbers and housewives, who can tear quislings like you apart with nothing but a few citations! You wouldn't last five seconds against a real expert, so you set us up as your bogeyman and try to troll us with baseless ad hominem and FAD attacks to inflate your ridiculous ego! You must be twice my age--grow the hell up!

 

[9/11-investigator]

I refuse to read through pages of what is likely, despicable drivel. So I'll just say this, in case no one else has: The Nazis said they did it, so did the victims. Now, WTF about that is hard to understand?

'The Nazis said they did it'... I assume you mean the 6M version of the holocaust?

Then your wrong. Except for Hoess (who was tortured, just like KSM), as far as I am aware, all the Nazi big shots who were on the Nuremberg trial denied they knew anything about it.

'The victims said the Nazis did it'... you really have to work on your debating skills cause this statement is inherent ridiculous.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Ordinary people, students and plumbers and housewives, who can tear quislings like you apart with nothing but a few citations!

We're in page 42 now and I am still waiting for this 'tearing apart'. Not going to happen if you ask me.

You wouldn't last five seconds against a real expert,

We did have the 'real expecrt' Nick Terry here, he made a professional study of the holocaust/Einsatzgruppen. Nevertheless 5 seconds after he found out that I am ready to put up a real fight he chickened out as fast as he could. Haven't heard anything from him ever since.

so you set us up as your bogeyman and try to troll us with baseless ad hominem and FAD attacks to inflate your ridiculous ego! You must be twice my age--grow the hell up!

I have my doubts that you understand the real meaning of the words 'ad hominem'. I am the civility in person. Some here even mistakenly believed that I was trying to befriend them because of my civility. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

 

[Cleon]

'The Nazis said they did it'... I assume you mean the 6M version of the holocaust?

Then your wrong. Except for Hoess (who was tortured, just like KSM),

There's not a shred of evidence that Hoess was tortured, only allegations by Holocaust deniers.

as far as I am aware, all the Nazi big shots who were on the Nuremberg trial denied they knew anything about it.

Even if that's true - and I don't take your word for it for one second - the Nuremberg trial is not the only time, place, or method that the Nazis communicated the fact of the Holocaust.

'The victims said the Nazis did it'... you really have to work on your debating skills cause this statement is inherent ridiculous.

Not so much.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Maybe you want to read this. But it might challenge your beliefs, so be careful, lest we co-conspirators against the nazis take you in.

I am sorry to have to disappoint you, that story is treated here:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n1p-7_weir.html

Again, I am sorry.