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VFF and the Diaphragm Test

Oh, no problem, everyone! It wasn't a diagphram at all! It was an IUD! In the vagina.

Glad we got the cleared up.

At least she's not making things up as she goes along in order to rationalise the manifest errors in her perceptions this time!
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
Now that I know more about it after reading your posts, I do realize that there is a high likelihood that what I think I saw was not a diaphragm at all, but some other white foreign object/implant. What else could it have been?
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It could have been your imagination...
 
bookitty said:
A buddy of mine was born with one kidney, has a replacement from surviving testicular cancer, and is right now in the hospital recovering from titanium implants in an arm & leg (motorcycle wreck). The more I think of it, the more people I know who have some sort of permanent foreign material in their bodies.

I am guessing that VFF is young, in her early 20's. If she is faking then it makes sense that she would "see" a diaphragm rather than any of the more common implants. In your 20's you don't know many people with replacement parts. It seems like a one in a million chance that someone would have metal in their body. Something related to to sex would seem more possible.

Of course, if she does read the threads, we should see an upward trend in titanium reporting within the next few weeks.
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I am certainly open to the possibility that my perceptions are imaginary and part of synesthesia. That is why I am eager to arrange a test soon to determine that. Would your friends who have some sort of permanent foreign material in their bodies be interested in taking part in a little test of my claim? Whereabouts are you?
 
It was good to see a response from VfF.
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VisionFromFeeling said:
I am sorry. This is an inappropriate conversation topic. There are plenty of intimate and uncomfortable perceptions that I would not want to involve in a public discussion, so, sorry guys! I really thought this would stay between UY and me. :blush:
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I don't think so. This is simply the latest in a series of unsupported claims on the part of VfF.
As for the indelicacy of natural feminine functions, well, tampons, sanitary towels, even sanitary towels designed for the problems associated with menopause are the subject of televised publicity in the EU, and at any hour of the day or night.

I have been having medical perceptions of these areas all the time. One of my earliest and most clear perceptions was female cysts. Another was when I saw a "bloody uterus" in a woman who was having her menstruation. I've also perceived genital herpes in a young woman. Just to mention a few. Again, things I don't think are appropriate for discussion in a public Forum. Children could be reading.
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This sounds really false to me, VfF.
If it's inappropriate, why talk about it and with such detail?
In any case what age of children would be reading this thread?
3 year olds? 9 year olds? 15 year olds?


Now that I know more about it after reading your posts, I do realize that there is a high likelihood that what I think I saw was not a diaphragm at all, but some other white foreign object/implant. What else could it have been?
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White?
For starters- a tampon.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I am certainly open to the possibility that my perceptions are imaginary and part of synesthesia. That is why I am eager to arrange a test soon to determine that. Would your friends who have some sort of permanent foreign material in their bodies be interested in taking part in a little test of my claim? Whereabouts are you?
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Oh goodness, please stop it with the synesthesia stuff. You don't have synesthesia - synesthesia would not cause you to have delusions about objects inside living flesh. You stumbled upon synesthesia when trying to rationalize your powers and have tried to work it in as a "legitimate" explanation for them...but it just doesn't have any basis in fact.

The most likely possibility is you don't have synesthesia or superpowers. Indeed, I have asked several times if you have ever been medically tested for synesthesia and you have remained silent - because you almost certainly don't have it. It just your little ruse you use to try to make your superpowers seem like they have some basis in fact.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I am sorry. This is an inappropriate conversation topic. There are plenty of intimate and uncomfortable perceptions that I would not want to involve in a public discussion, so, sorry guys! I really thought this would stay between UY and me. :blush:
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I told you before not to tell me things you do not want made public. I don't know much more more clear I can be.

UY conveniently (for him, to make his point), forgot/omitted certain sections of what I said to him. Here is the entire conversation:
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It was not a conversation. It was one of many times where you have sent me a stream of messages over Skype with no response from me whatsoever.

UY omitted/forgot to mention the obvious reasons why I did not check for accuracy of the perception, and that the cards would be placed into envelopes and that would make it less awkward. Note: I will not be doing this kind of survey.
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I didn't omit anything that was relevant. You did not check for accuracy. Why you didn't is irrelevant. Asking women if they currently have a diaphragm in the vagina is awkward no matter whether you use cards or not. What's relevant is that you were asking advice on how to conduct a test based on an unverified, split-second, VisionFromFeeling.

Now that I know more about it after reading your posts, I do realize that there is a high likelihood that what I think I saw was not a diaphragm at all, but some other white foreign object/implant. What else could it have been?
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Since you have never once proven any of your claims under even the most rudimentary controlled conditions, and since you have repeatedly failed (or failed to complete) controlled tests given to you, and since you never verified the information to be correct, the only reasonable explanation is that this is pure fantasy on your part.

You see, here on Earth, people cannot see the vaginas of fully clothed women walking past a doorway, much less inside them. Trust me, history is littered with millions of teenage boys who have tried.
 
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Earth is such a boring place, no sooper powers:(
A white dwarf star near Acturus on the other hand.....
 
I can do VFF one better: I can see whether or not someone has a full load of feces in their bowels. Just make them stay in a room where I can watch them for 6 hours, and I will predict 100% accuracy!
 
VfF can detect full bladders!
mmhmm, I think we could be onto something.
How about we stake out a public toilet?
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
What else could it have been?
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A figment of your wild imagination? A wholly fictional pile of crap created by you for the purpose of feeding your insatiable need for attention? A manifestation of some sort of mental illness? Any way about it, it might be a good idea for you to get a professional assessment by a competent mental health professional to find out one way or another.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I am certainly open to the possibility that my perceptions are imaginary and part of synesthesia.
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No, you're not open to that possibility. You either are completely sucked into believing you're some kind of special person with super x-ray powers, in which case you might be mentally ill and should probably have that checked. Or you know you're full of crap and making this stuff up, in which case you're a despicable fraud. But we are certain you are not imbued with some kind of paranormal super x-ray magical vision, and your claims are not the result of synesthesia.

Mostly we have you almost certainly pegged as...

VisionFromFeeling said:
Feel free to apply skepticism and call me a liar and a fraud.
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... a liar and a fraud.
 
UncaYimmy said:
Which is roughly about the same percentage (estimated) of people born with one kidney. What a co-winky-dink! I didn't realize the percentage of diaphragm users was so small. Besides being a ridiculous test for other reasons, it's just not practical to find test subjects. So, I guess in a way it's perfect!
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That doesn't matter though. As has been pointed out, her claim is not to be able to detect who habitually uses a diaphragm, but simply the presence of one at a given moment.

It would be possible to do the test with just one subject. The same woman walks by outside the room 10 times. Whether or not she is currently with diaphragm on each walk through is determined by the toss of a coin. (Make the time interval between walk-bys standard so she can't discern anything by differences in time.)
 
Attention VFF!

Do you suppose that instead of constantly going off on tangents, you could actually address direct questions and just settle on one simple test rather than constantly zigging and zagging all over the place?

In multiple threads many people with far more patience than I have tried to help you develop a clear and simple protocol for a test. Yet you dodge, misdirect and just ignore. For example, you failed to even acknowledge this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150822 in which a very simple and clear-cut test protocol was outlined. Is there some reason you did not respond even once?

For the record, I alerted VFF to this post via PM.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
That doesn't matter though. As has been pointed out, her claim is not to be able to detect who habitually uses a diaphragm, but simply the presence of one at a given moment.

It would be possible to do the test with just one subject. The same woman walks by outside the room 10 times. Whether or not she is currently with diaphragm on each walk through is determined by the toss of a coin. (Make the time interval between walk-bys standard so she can't discern anything by differences in time.)
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So, you think it's more difficult to find five women willing to wear one for a test than it is to find one woman who is willing to repeatedly go into a stall in a bathroom and hike up her skirt so can insert and remove a diaphragm based on the flip of a coin? You can't be serious.
 
You could always just get the woman in question to pretend to do the whole diaphragm thing and see if VFF detects anything. This should work so long as nobody tells VFF and avoids uncomfortable trips to the toilet.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
I am certainly open to the possibility that my perceptions are imaginary and part of synesthesia. That is why I am eager to arrange a test soon to determine that. Would your friends who have some sort of permanent foreign material in their bodies be interested in taking part in a little test of my claim? Whereabouts are you?
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Fixed it for you
 
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