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Dylan Avery WRIF interview about Nat Geo 9/11 Special

nicepants said:
I would much rather hear his explanation for why Alex Jones isn't involved in this one. He got pretty upset when he was asked that on an interview recently. When someone gets that defensive & upset over such a simple question it's kind of a red flag for me that there's a whole lot more to the story.
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I relistened to this interview (I don't recommend it) so I could find some good material to form a question out of if there is a Q&A.

This question is in the top 3 possible questions I plan on asking for sure.

I'm interested in his claim that the victim's families are still calling for an investigation because IMO, that is the best argument he throws at people and I don't know enough info about it to tell whether or not those claims hold any validity.
 
well, Dylan is stretching the truth on that as he has been for the last 7 years. Victims always will have questions; and many of them CANT be answered and most likely they want "someone" be brought to justice, but fail to realize that it was teh fAILURE of many agencies and people that built up to the failur of everything on 9/11/2001.



why wasn't this stopped? didn't you guys have foreknowledge? Why haven't you charged Bin Laden? Why wasn't the WTC towers built to preven this?

ITs all appeal to emotion.

Basically, they want to blame someone, but can't, because the real person behind 9/11/2001 is far away in another country, protected by countries that do not mind having him there. So they want "an investigation" to bring someone to justice, whether or not its our GOVT, or its Bin Laden.
 
Arus808 said:
well, Dylan is stretching the truth on that as he has been for the last 7 years. Victims always will have questions; and many of them CANT be answered and most likely they want "someone" be brought to justice, but fail to realize that it was teh fAILURE of many agencies and people that built up to the failur of everything on 9/11/2001.



why wasn't this stopped? didn't you guys have foreknowledge? Why haven't you charged Bin Laden? Why wasn't the WTC towers built to preven this?

ITs all appeal to emotion.

Basically, they want to blame someone, but can't, because the real person behind 9/11/2001 is far away in another country, protected by countries that do not mind having him there. So they want "an investigation" to bring someone to justice, whether or not its our GOVT, or its Bin Laden.
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Is there something wrong with them wanting that? Who has been brought to justice? Who has been held accountable for security failures? What exactly has been done to stop something like 9/11 or worse from happening again? Why do you feel the need to make excuses?
 
knife fight colobus said:
I'm interested in his claim that the victim's families are still calling for an investigation because IMO, that is the best argument he throws at people and I don't know enough info about it to tell whether or not those claims hold any validity.
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I live in the suburban county of NYC (Staten Island) that is said to have the largest number of families of victims and of first responders. I am active in civic activities and see countless people that, one way or another, I know have a very emotional relationship to WTC and 9/11. I have had many conversations with ex-firemen who were at GZ.

I also see shiny new model cars that get "In memory of fireman Fred 9/11" or "In memory of firehouse XX 9/11" made fresh.

There is no visible Twoof activity here. None in 8 years. None of the above people now want anything but medical care and survivor's benefits and it seems that the medical is covered. I'm sure financial situations vary.
 
WUBRINY63 said:
Is there something wrong with them wanting that?
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So, what would be the point of a "new" investigation? We already know who planned it (OBL admitted to it). What can t he US do beyond nuking pakistan, afghanistan, and all the countries in that area to smoke one person out?

What victims want, is unattainable at this point in time, unless two things happen:

1) OBL is caught by chance
2) OBL dies.


They want unrealistic justice at this point. The agencies involved (FBI, CIA, etc) all have learned from this experience, and are slowly, but surely, now allowing that information concerning terrorist organizations and suspects are shared. Instead of the Stonewalling that happened prior to 9/11/2001



Who has been brought to justice?
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Can't do that unless OBL is caught? IF you want him brought to justice, then why dont you go to Afghanistan and hunt him down?

He's been in hiding for 20 years; can you do better?
 
Arus808 said:
So, what would be the point of a "new" investigation? We already know who planned it (OBL admitted to it). What can t he US do beyond nuking pakistan, afghanistan, and all the countries in that area to smoke one person out?

What victims want, is unattainable at this point in time, unless two things happen:

1) OBL is caught by chance
2) OBL dies.


They want unrealistic justice at this point. The agencies involved (FBI, CIA, etc) all have learned from this experience, and are slowly, but surely, now allowing that information concerning terrorist organizations and suspects are shared. Instead of the Stonewalling that happened prior to 9/11/2001





Can't do that unless OBL is caught? IF you want him brought to justice, then why dont you go to Afghanistan and hunt him down?

He's been in hiding for 20 years; can you do better?
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So is it back to OBL for debunkers now? Because I thought it was KSM these days. Will it be KFC next week?

The official story has no accountability for either the perpetrators or the people who were responsible for protecting America on 9/11. The victims and family members of 9/11 deserve better than that. I hope that wasn't too emotional for you.
 
WUBRINY63 said:
So is it back to OBL for debunkers now? Because I thought it was KSM these days. Will it be KFC next week?

The official story has no accountability for either the perpetrators or the people who were responsible for protecting America on 9/11. The victims and family members of 9/11 deserve better than that. I hope that wasn't too emotional for you.
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So you feel the evidence is obvious? That's why every day there are more and more people flocking to your position? And that's why you can only get 5 people out to some rallies? Why don't you or Gage run for Congress on a 911 Truth ticket?

This is a real question, by the way? If it's so obvious and so many people can see it as obvious, where would I be able to see this?
 
WUBRINY63 said:
So is it back to OBL for debunkers now? Because I thought it was KSM these days. Will it be KFC next week?
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Do you think the families are happy that KSM was caught? If not I say you have them help you with what CHF is asking.

And also, the FBI has NO hard evidence tying me to the 911 attacks so HOW DARE YOU, SIR!!!:mad:
 
WUBRINY63 said:
So is it back to OBL for debunkers now? Because I thought it was KSM these days. Will it be KFC next week?
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when did we shy away from OBL?
truthers bring something up then conveniently forget about it when they flee a thread or debate

WUBRINY63 said:
The official story has no accountability for either the perpetrators or the people who were responsible for protecting America on 9/11. The victims and family members of 9/11 deserve better than that. I hope that wasn't too emotional for you.
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the victims families think you are retarded
you muddy the waters between you and them

according to you the perpetrators were the ones responsible
you rail on and on about explosives
then you say
WUBRINY63 said:
Who has been held accountable for security failures? What exactly has been done to stop something like 9/11 or worse from happening again? Why do you feel the need to make excuses?
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you cant support both
one debunks the other
you look pretty dumb flip-flopping arguments
 
WUBRINY63 said:
So is it back to OBL for debunkers now? Because I thought it was KSM these days. Will it be KFC next week?

The official story has no accountability for either the perpetrators or the people who were responsible for protecting America on 9/11. The victims and family members of 9/11 deserve better than that. I hope that wasn't too emotional for you.
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So, its the governments fault 100% that this happened?? Not really chump.

So, the next time someone decides to break into my car, I should demand that the police for my area be fired because they didn't stop the break-in?? This is just too dumb for words.

I am a victim of 9/11, and I think, personally, that they did a fantastic job with the investigation and the reccomendations for prevention. Have you read the 9/11 Comission report? I bet not, because they layed out no less than 50 checks and balances to prevent this from happening again.

One of them is VERY obvious. Have you flown pre-9/11 and post-9/11?? I bet you haven't, because if you had, you would realize what those OBVIOUS changes were.

Please, feel free to use your dumb movement to try to justify a new investigation, but please, do not use MY name, and my BROTHERS' names to try to justify it. Its rude and quite frankly, is like rubbing **** in our faces. Don't do it.
 
CompusMentus said:
This thread finally gave the push I needed to de-lurk and plunge in.

Avery is despicable. It's a pity Drew n Mike didn't tackle him on his vile assertions that Bernard Brown sent his young son onto a plane knowing he was going to die. This should be thrown at him everytime the idiot is questioned about 9-11.

As for the "four buildings" The terminology actually used by either Drew or Mike was "four giant objects" last I heard the planet Earth is rather large.

Compus
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:) Agreed. Welcome to the forum! :welcome4

Have you been watching the antics of the twoof movement for long? Did you ever believe any of their theories?

Glad you could join us. Newbies have to clean NWO Kitty's kitty litter in exchange for the password to the JREF Super Sekrit Eeevil Debunking Plan subforum. ;)
 
WUBRINY63 said:
The official story has no accountability for either the perpetrators or the people who were responsible for protecting America on 9/11. .
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well, we are still looking for Bin Laden. KSM is in prison awaiting trial.

unfortunately, the 19 men who bear the most responsibility for 9-11 are already dead.
 
triforcharity said:
So, its the governments fault 100% that this happened??
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No one has been even 1% held accountable for not doing their job on 9/11.

triforcharity said:
So, the next time someone decides to break into my car, I should demand that the police for my area be fired because they didn't stop the break-in??
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No but if there was someone specifically hired to protect your car from being broken into then yes they would be responsible to some degree. In fact if the knew they wouldn't be held responsible for not doing their job they might as well rob your car themselves. Especially if you gave them the keys.

triforcharity said:
I am a victim of 9/11, and I think, personally, that they did a fantastic job with the investigation and the reccomendations for prevention. Have you read the 9/11 Comission report? I bet not, because they layed out no less than 50 checks and balances to prevent this from happening again.
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What has been done to stop another 9/11 like attack or worse?

triforcharity said:
One of them is VERY obvious. Have you flown pre-9/11 and post-9/11?? I bet you haven't, because if you had, you would realize what those OBVIOUS changes were.
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Bull. Investigators have already breached security post 9/11 with fake bombs that could be used to hijack a plane much like what is claimed to have happened on 9/11.

triforcharity said:
Please, feel free to use your dumb movement to try to justify a new investigation, but please, do not use MY name, and my BROTHERS' names to try to justify it. Its rude and quite frankly, is like rubbing **** in our faces. Don't do it.
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You don't speak for all 9/11 families and victims. In fact you can't even backup most of the claims that come out of your mouth.
 
Funny how he makes the same exact arguments as Homeland Insurgency.
 
Justin39640 said:
debunker say what?!!111??
(i was thinkin that or ultima)
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No, HI brought up the bombs being snuck in, plus he constantly asked us to make up our mind, it has his fingerprints all over it.
 
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