Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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makaya325 said:
I think you are just full of it, and can not simply come up with rebuttals.
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RayG said:
Just finished watching an episode. Not many make it to the finish line and tonight was no exception.

You want bigfoot found, call Mantracker.

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Exactly. The thing is that the very few that do make it to the finish line never completely elude Mantracker. Now just imagine if instead of Mantracker's job being to pursue you and catch you on horseback, what if we said "just go shoot them or whatever it is you need to do to make them dead". I love when I come of from Japan to Canada and can catch Mantracker on TV but one thing just shouts out to me when I watch the show. It's like you take for example Survivorman's Les Stroud where he shows you the level of difficulty he has to go through to make it a week in the wild and shoot it all himself. Then you have Mantracker where there's a shot of a guy hiding in the grass on the side of a hill with Mantracker at the top of the hill. We're being told to think that Mantracker can not see the guy hiding and you're sitting there in front of the TV yelling at it "what about the *bleep*ing cameraman standing right there next to the guy in the grass pointing a *bleeping* camera at the guy hiding!?"

I have doubts about that show but no doubts about Mantracker's skills. The thing I really like about shows like that is that anytime they're out in the various terrains of Canada, they have the potential to get on tape these monster wood apes that respond often aggressively to the presence of humans. Why doesn't the BFRO or some other similar group hire Mantracker to track monster wood apes for them? Is it possible that they don't really think he'd find anything?
 
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makaya325 said:
Very well then:

1. Every living organism, from Elephants to bacteria, leaves it own ecological impact on the environment. EX: a new predator is introduced into a large area full of deer. As time goes on, the deer population will start to decrease, due to the predator consuming them. Bigfoot, however, does not leave any ecological impact on its environment. There is no decrease in deer, elk, bear, plants, etc population, which you would expect if there was a breeding population of monstrous apes, which in reality there is no such thing.

But would wandering small hunter/ gatherer groups leave that much impact in the far northern reaches of Canada. Did the Indians deplete the buffalo?
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flimsy considering many consider them to be omnivorous or opportunists or vegitarian, your assumption is pretty narrow, next.....

2. Lack of remains- Every Animal, no matter how rare, has to leave remains behind. Scientists have no trouble finding a new species of insect in the remote, unaccessible areas of the Congo, yet no one can seem to find a population of hairy titans living in such close perimeters to people. The fact that nearly all of NA has been mapped and developed, yet not one finding of any large ape remains, makes the likelyhood of bigfoot plummet extremely low.

But if they buried, burned or even ate their dead, that would make the likelhood of finding remains of small tribes slim
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You just potentially refuted yourself, next.....

3. Lack of tools- If bigfoot has evaded man for all of these centuries, you would certainly expect tools and culture from such a smart species. The fact that bigfoot is never found, yet is described as smart as a bag of dirt, does not support consistency for it being a real species.

Maybe for some reason they are terrified out of their wits of man and avoid him at all costs. Do apes have tools and "cities"? Its not hard to elude man. Its his dogs that are hard to hide from. Ask Mr Cougar
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That made no sense. next.....

4. Every mammal, when giving birth, would be experiencing so much pain, which would make them scream their heads off. A sasquatch would require a huge voicebox, and if ever in a painful situation, its voice would certainly be heard for miles and miles.
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you're serious.....?

5. Not all forests remote- Even the Dark, mysterious forests of the PNW are surveyed and mapped to death. Wildlife biologists and park rangers do travel great distances and cover so much land that any large species would be found by now.
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best one so far, still flimsy.

6. Why so few sightings?- If this thing is real, it has to have an MVP (Minimum viable population) of around 4000. If this were the case, people would be running into these things daily, not once in every blue moon.
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also flimsy

7. No consistent behavior- No one has ever reported seeing a bigfoot give birth, mate, or fight with each other, all of which you would see in a real population of a REAL species.
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assumption, and a flimsy one

8. Bigfoot is reported in all 50 states, yet not one sighting has ever lead to good evidence.

Most of the sightings, if not all, in the lower 48 are hoaxes. They don't count. And really? They have been reported in Hawaii??
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That wasn't coherent

9. Where the tracks lead to- A couple 1000 of these Hairy giants would certainly leave trackways behind. Don't you think that at least one trackway would lead you to your grand prize?
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Your best efforts weren't that great. As I said in the beginning, presenting opinion as fact, FAIL.
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I didn't notice anything too out of the ordinary, other than the extra bite the wind had today.
A mimicking Bigfoot just had to come along and throw in a new twist.
Not to spoil the party...No! Not at all. Bigfoot would raise the party bar here, add a
few more goose bumps... Goose bumps you never knew you had.
The coo,coo,coo, of the mourning dove, or a shuffling Bigfoot, trying with all it's
"staying still powers" to elude me.
What puzzles me though, is why it would mimic all it's fellow creatures anyways.
A survival skill I suppose. Why not hoot like an owl when those pesky campers stroll by.
This could be warning sounds to other Bigfoots in the area, incoming at 5 oclock
Get your whoops and stones ready.
How this method has worked for so many years, has me in total awe.
I can't even tie my own boot laces, without getting noticed. Yet this Bigfoot...

I thought my mind was far and away from this hairy biped, as I meandered through
My woods, a walk which sometimes resembles that of a wood duck waddle, short steps.
I was thinking of paying more attention to some of the finer details.
Though I am quite intimate with my woods, there is always an old story turning over and over
with the whiff of a new theme filtering in, percolating like my morning coffee.
The wind playing "on and off" with the branches. All those in between intermissions.
Always assured of more parts to follow. Never quite the same tune playing out here.
These woods have more than enough "Nuances and little quirks"
to fill that nature hungry space between one's ears.

In one of those temporary lulls, I was lured into thinking about the deciduous trees.
Getting ready to put out all they have in store for fall colors. A vibrant show only to then rid themselves
of these colorful blankets like yesterday's fad.
An out of place hoot, or an unfamiliar smell was all it would take to drag out Bigfoot...
Front and center again. Why I can't resist sometimes.
I filled all of my lungs with as much air as I dared to intake, then let out a great "whoooooop!"
I'm sure all that was heard in the woods today, just might have been the most pathetic attempt
at a "whoop" that was ever heard... In all of time... On all this green earth has ever had to offer.
But I felt like I took the words right out of Bigfoot's mouth.
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Kitakaze, I think perhaps we should start a Bigfoot Fiction thread. Where our Bigfoot literary poems, stories, etc... could be published for the world to see.

I have been working on a Hemingway-esqe Bigfoot story, and I also have a screenplay in the works that could possibly turn into a short movie, or a short story in a horror movie.

Tell me what you think.

Here is an example of a poem I've been working on.

Bigfoot on mah mind, oil-sprayed gravel road a-drivin'
There in the mirage-level distance, something stiffly-shuffles across.

Dirt Black color, furry?, I'd say 'yes indeed!'
Hit the gas, engine hesitates, blow a stop-sign, closing the distance.

Slap me twice and call me 'Susan!' it IS Bigfoot!
No... wait... it is an old man in a well-worn parka, checking his mail.

I shant mention this to anyone.
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Bigfoot on mah mind, oil-sprayed gravel road a-drivin'
There in the mirage-level distance, something stiffly-shuffles across.

Dirt Black color, furry?, I'd say 'yes indeed!'
Hit the gas, engine hesitates, blow a stop-sign, closing the distance.

Slap me twice and call me 'Susan!' it IS Bigfoot!
No... wait... it is an old man in a well-worn parka, checking his mail.

I shant mention this to anyone.
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Oil sprayed road driving....oh I know it well.
While driving, I look for changes.
A tiny amount of orange and yellow whispers the beginning.
Soon the trees will be resplendent with fire-like colors.
Autumn, fall whatever you like to call it,
I call it Michigan. I call Michigan home. :blush:
 
Kitakaze, I think perhaps we should start a Bigfoot Fiction thread. Where our Bigfoot literary poems, stories, etc... could be published for the world to see.

I have been working on a Hemingway-esqe Bigfoot story, and I also have a screenplay in the works that could possibly turn into a short movie, or a short story in a horror movie.
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Hemingway would be great. Who else has the voice to tell the tale of the elusive Bigfoot, and the lost dreams that come with it? Wonderful idea Drewbot.

Hey Kitakaze, a thread for stories is a novel idea! (oh i am so clever!):D
 
wicked_ways said:
Hemingway would be great. Who else has the voice to tell the tale of the elusive Bigfoot, and the lost dreams that come with it? Wonderful idea Drewbot.

Hey Kitakaze, a thread for stories is a novel idea! (oh i am so clever!):D
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I have an even better idea. We already have the uber-cool Dog Switcher Fan Club. Any JREF Bigfoot skeptic who isn't on that I promise you wears sandals with big white socks pulled right up to the knees and thinks Bill O'Reilly and Fox News are the voice for the people.

What we need is to organize. We need to be a mass. We need a Bigfoot/crypto weirdness, fiction, poetry, satire group and to have an outlet for it, preferably Community. There I can roll in reverie for my lost M.O.H.A.I.R., Susan. JcR can bust whoops and prose. Drew can bust foot ryhmes. William can discuss elusive downed plane sightings. It will be like always but with more cowbell.

I have been tossing names around in my head. I was thinking the Goony Goo Goo's á la Eddie Murphy but there are many possibilities. Anybody who likes the idea, feel free to drop a suggestion.
 
I'm just checking my drawers to see if I have any big white socks.
Many thanks Kitakaze. :)
 
I don't know, I think we need a separate thread for the Bigfoot Poetry/Fiction/ Bigfoot Pron, that Dogswitcher place is for Tom Burnette fans.

Kitakaze please start a thread for that. Dogswitcher Club does not correspond with a Limerick about Bigfoot's eating habits.
 
LTC8K6 said:
We'd need a sample to say for sure...
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Of bigfoot porn?

Well, you can find some of the material I'll use as "inspiration" source at the MRP and SFB threads...

I can guarantee you there will be plenty of whoops and yells in the woods.
 
Drewbot said:
I don't know, I think we need a separate thread for the Bigfoot Poetry/Fiction/ Bigfoot Pron, that Dogswitcher place is for Tom Burnette fans.

Kitakaze please start a thread for that. Dogswitcher Club does not correspond with a Limerick about Bigfoot's eating habits.
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Yeah, that's what I was saying. The Tom Burnette fan club is a social club for the appreciation of just one marvelous Bigfooter hillbilly. I was suggesting we have a separate JREF social group with it's own thread in Community for Bigfoot/crypto-related weirdness. This would be the place where I would like to quote over something like this just for fun...

William Parcher said:
If crashed planes moved around the forest and encountered people just like Bigfoot does... we might find all of them.


Breaking News: A missing plane was found yesterday in Alaska when it tried to cross a highway and was smashed by a big rig. Last month, another missing plane was found when a hunter shot it. Lamar Declipompsky from California said, "I knew my shot was good and it wasn't a case of mistaken identity. This plane was sneaking around behind some trees and was watching me. Obviously, it was one of those crashed planes because the non-missing ones are all up in the sky or parked at some airport. I took the shot. This kind of closure is important."
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I nominated that. That's exactly the kind of creative reaction I like seeing to crypto-screwballery. It's like Gary Larson on 11. I was glad we had pith awards because otherwise it would be a weird nomination. Even so, I think when most people are looking at that, it's like, Man, those Bigfoot skeptic people are bizarre! Is "Declipompsky" even a real name??

I would bring over stuff like that and contribute whatever my whim at the time is. I know I wouldn't focus on it. Context is everything. Here's another good one...

LTC8K6 in PGF 2 said:
Yes. Never drowns or has an accident or plays, etc.

I've said this before. Bigfoot never does anything but walk straight from nowhere to nowhere.

He never does anything like stand around and contemplate the view, or kick pine cones, or skip and hop, or dance with happiness, or anything that would leave anything other than a line of tracks.

He's never walking along, and then runs like crazy for 20 feet just to be running on a nice summer day.

Two of them never race each other to the river to see who is fastest.

He never gets mad and stomps around in a circle in frustration.

He never gets in a fist fight with the guy in the next valley.

He never does a left-face.

His kids never run around in circles in the mud getting filthy.

They never climb a tree and fall out, or get stuck up there and holler for mama.

They never hang around in unruly groups and misbehave, or draw things in the dirt.
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Whatever the thread or social group would be, it would be a place where Bigfoot throwing pig lovers of the world could unite and take over. Mmmm... That came out all wrong, didn't it? Anyways, you get the point. Yes, I'll get on that. More social group name suggestions, please.
 
Drewbot said:
I am writing a couple of Bigfoot related Punk Rock songs.

One in the style of the Ramones titled: Sasquatch is a Punk Rocker To the tune of "Sheena Is A Punk Rocker" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8y...E4CE7CA60&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8

and another more in the Genre of Suicidal Tendencies, My Mom Buys Her Drugs From Bigfoot.
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COOL!

I would do it to Joy Division's Transmission.

Bigfoot mind transmission.
Bigfoot mind transmission.

Listen to the wail, let it ring on.
Eyes, bright red lenses frightened of the sun.
We would have a fine time screaming in the night,
Infrasound destruction,
Waiting for our sight.
 
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