9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[9/11-investigator]

It does not matter what their background is. Why do you take Trotsky and Kaganovich, two brutal scumbags, and say all jews are like them? Who is the one who tries to downplay atrocities.

I never said that 'all Jews are like T&K'. What I do say is that all the crimes that you like to accuse the Germans of (and many accusations are justified) can be found committed on 'your side' as well.

no, you are the one who is regressing. you said it yourself that you wanted to reduce Europe to the 16th century. Well, prepare to welcome serfdom, illiteracy and poverty.

I told you that one cannot turn back the clock. What I do want to say though is that European man has hardly ever acquired a more vital spiritual state than around 1600 in aristocratic France. "One for all and all for one!". This as an illustration that I am not interested in centralized mass movements like communism or nazism, but that I prefer a libertarian sort of life. But hey, never let the facts prevent a good smear.

He is still active.

Yeah, like Vesuvius. Nick can erupt any moment now. Don't hold your breath.

Nope. You just accused many people of being shills. You have Zero peer reviewed evidence. We have the nuremberg trials minutes, mass graves, crematoria, schamtics and blueprints of TZs and KZs. As well as that, we have survivor and perpetrator testimony. The icing on the cake: the Nazis gloat about it every step of the way in declassified documents.

- You have the Nuremberg trial minutes as written by the victors. Agreed.
- You have mass graves. Uhh, where again to come anywhere near hundreds of thousands, let alone millions?
- There were crematoria. These camps (certainly Birkenau) where middle sized towns where the Germans themselves administered 270,000 deaths. That's an incredible amount of people. They could not be buried, Auschwitz was/is a swamp. So you need crematoria. Your point?
- Survivor testimony? Who? There are a handful of them all discussed in the literature (do it yourself first, use google and IHR or codoh). Name one and we are going to discuss him. Last week a Dutch Jew Louis de Wijze died, 87. Auschwitz-survivor, was proud of his tatoo-number. Was a successful entrepeneur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY178thlaPU

Big in the news. And then the news reader in characteristic solumn tone cited the words of the Wijze... 'how he had seen the crematoria with his own eyes!'. No kidding! I say them too a few years ago. But what he should have seen day in day out were lines of thousands and thousands of people lining up in front of the gas chambers in order to wait for their turn to be gassed. It had to if you want to arrive at your 1,5 million people who are said to have been perished at Auschwitz. Can somebody provide me with that testimony? The Allies made numerous photos from the air; nothing to be seen. The Red Cross visited the camps regularly, observed nothing peculiar.

So what should I conclude? Tell me.

 

[9/11-investigator]

That explains some of the silence, but not all of it. I was referring specifically to the people who were alleged to have been directly involved, not, say, some private stationed in Africa. What about the people who were literally on trial for their life?

They all denied it! As far as I can remember (might be wrong) nobody of the defendants in Nuremberg admitted to have known about 'the holocaust'. Everything hinges on the testimony of Hoess. And he was treated like 9/11-KSM: tortured. Worthless testimony in short. And he admitted to 4 million people dead! And he referred to a non-existing camp Wolzek!

Worthless testimony.

 

[danielk]

Mr. investigator, I appreciate your concern but you really do not have to "defend" the German people. We get by just fine without you, thanks.

Although sometimes it can be really hard to endure the utter contempt the world has for us, I have to admit. Because of the evil lies of the Jews, nobody wants to deal with us anymore and import our goods. You know, our country suffered most in World War II, unlike the rest of Europe who only experienced a little bit of hardship when the war was drawing to a close. We are destitute! Did you know that of all countries in the world, Germany exports the least amount of goods abroad, as nobody wants to buy our cars anymore?!

Those damn Jews! Curse them and their Auschwitz lie! All we want is a seat at the table!

 

[drkitten]

I told you that one cannot turn back the clock. What I do want to say though is that European man has hardly ever acquired a more vital spiritual state than around 1600 in aristocratic France. "One for all and all for one!".

You are aware, surely, that that phrase originated in 1844, in the serial publication of Dumas' Three Musketeers..

It's about as realistic an example of 17th century France as a turned aluminum Olde German Bier Stein, or a presentation sword inscribed "Given after the First Battle of Ypres, 22 November 1914."

 

[Simon39759]

Woe to the defeated (old Greek saying)

It's a quote, not a saying.
Initially, it was in Latin, not Greek, uttered by a Gaul after the sack of Rome, nothing to do with Greece.

I told you that one cannot turn back the clock. What I do want to say though is that European man has hardly ever acquired a more vital spiritual state than around 1600 in aristocratic France. "One for all and all for one!". This as an illustration that I am not interested in centralized mass movements like communism or nazism, but that I prefer a libertarian sort of life. But hey, never let the facts prevent a good smear.

[qimg]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Dartagnan-musketeers.jpg/300px-Dartagnan-musketeers.jpg[/qimg]

As mentioned, The three muskeeters was a 19th century fiction.
It was also written by the son of a general from the French Revolution and the grand son of a black slave.
Not really, a fair illustration of your aryan European ideal was he?


Your knowledge of history is almost as bad as your politics.

 

[FineWine]

Your words. I do not have friends here. I rather keep it that way.

You and your fact-free brethren were nailed to the wall by my questions about Eichmann. On trial for his life, he never thought to deny the reality of the charges against him. You avoided this devastating blow to your wicked fantasy until you had to say something. You conjured up feeble idiocy about Eichmann's role. You tried to pretend that he merely moved large numbers of people (Jews) here and there. Eichmann, of course, disagreed strongly with your lunatic fabrication. He understood himself to be killing Jews.

 

[dudalb]

It's a quote, not a saying.
Initially, it was in Latin, not Greek, uttered by a Gaul after the sack of Rome, nothing to do with Greece
As mentioned, The three muskeeters was a 19th century fiction.
It was also written by the son of a general from the French Revolution and the grand son of a black slave.
Not really, a fair illustration of your aryan European ideal was he?


Your knowledge of history is almost as bad as your politics.

Damn, ya beat me to informing our denier buddy that the creator of the 3 Musketeers was of African descent.
But I note that He does see the Old Regime in France as an Ideal for Europe.
The Edict of Nantes and the Expulsion of the Huguenots Rocks!

 

[Trojan]

They all denied it! As far as I can remember (might be wrong) nobody of the defendants in Nuremberg admitted to have known about 'the holocaust'. Everything hinges on the testimony of Hoess. And he was treated like 9/11-KSM: tortured. Worthless testimony in short. And he admitted to 4 million people dead! And he referred to a non-existing camp Wolzek!

Worthless testimony.

Do you just make this up as you go along or are you actually this ignorant of the history you seek to deny?

The IMT was held from November 21, 1945 to October 1, 1946.

Hoess was not captured until March 1946 - he only testified against one of the defendants. By no means, was his testimony crucial to the prosecution at the IMT.

 

[dtugg]

The nazi doesn't exactly have the best research skills. It once "proved" that "thermite carbon cord" (which it surmised could have been used to destroy the WTC) exists by linking to the wiki for Halo (the video game). That one earned it a Studie Award.

 

[Oliver]

They all denied it! As far as I can remember (might be wrong) nobody of the defendants in Nuremberg admitted to have known about 'the holocaust'. Everything hinges on the testimony of Hoess. And he was treated like 9/11-KSM: tortured. Worthless testimony in short. And he admitted to 4 million people dead! And he referred to a non-existing camp Wolzek!

Worthless testimony.

Well, as I said, you could look up eyewitness testemonies of thousands of people but you somehow manage to ignore them and blabber about the Nuremberg trials, KZ's and a single, tortured "KSM".

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum’s oral history collection is one of the largest and most diverse resources for Holocaust testimonies in the world. The collection contains over 9,000 audio and video interviews. These testimonies enable students, researchers, and the general public to see and hear the first-hand accounts of those who experienced, witnessed, or perpetrated the events of the Holocaust.

Source: http://www.learnoutloud.com/Free-Au...itness-Testimonies-and-Personal-Stories/25774

Bolding mine.

 

[Oliver]

On the other hand, what would be an enlightening testemony to you anyway if accounts from random people don't count?

 

[tsig]

. The Germans wanted to forget. Nobody talked about the war until the new hippie-generation started to ask questions after 1968. And, very important, there was no holocaust propaganda! There were no films, no television, no internet. The holocaust propaganda started somewhere in the 1970's, worldwide, all over sudden, massively.



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Funny I read books about the extermination camps in 1965. They had diagrams of the ovens that were fueled by human fat, copies of official records and even photographs.

 

[Trojan]

Funny I read books about the extermination camps in 1965. They had diagrams of the ovens that were fueled by human fat, copies of official records and even photographs.

It no longer matters, he's at the point that he is just making up arguments as he goes, irregardless of any evidence he may have.

 

[Chaos]

Wow, after 19 pages in this thread I finally convinced (or forced to admit the truth by) somebody. Now it is Skeptic and me against the rest of the J-power deniers. I am making progress.

Note to self: Add "the ability to use and understand sarcasm" to the list of things Nazis are completely lacking. I think there´s still some space right between "basic ethics" and "the ability to accept a truth they do not like".

 

[Chaos]

Mr. investigator, I appreciate your concern but you really do not have to "defend" the German people. We get by just fine without you, thanks.

Although sometimes it can be really hard to endure the utter contempt the world has for us, I have to admit. Because of the evil lies of the Jews, nobody wants to deal with us anymore and import our goods. You know, our country suffered most in World War II, unlike the rest of Europe who only experienced a little bit of hardship when the war was drawing to a close. We are destitute! Did you know that of all countries in the world, Germany exports the least amount of goods abroad, as nobody wants to buy our cars anymore?!

Those damn Jews! Curse them and their Auschwitz lie! All we want is a seat at the table!

Sag sowas nicht. Diese gehirnamputierte Dumpfbacke nimmt jedes bisschen davon wörtlich.

 

[timhau]

Oh and what happened to our holocaust entrepreneur Nick Terry? He has become very silent all over sudden. Probably doesn't want to ruin his career before it really started by getting teached a lesson by some holo-amateur like me for all the world to see.

A shame, I invested many hours last Sunday addressing many points of his list.

Translation:

The Black Knight always triumphs!

 

[dudalb]

Translation:

The Black Knight always triumphs!

"It's Just a Scratch".

 

[NWO Sentryman]

"It's Just a Scratch".

then his other arm is chopped off.

"'tis a mere flesh wound"

 

[timhau]

Actually, 9/11 Investigator is now -- has been for a while, actually -- in the stage where he's sitting on the ground with no arms and no legs yelling "You yellow bastard! Come back and get what's coming to you!"

Sad, but mildly amusing.

 

[Cainkane1]

Funny I read books about the extermination camps in 1965. They had diagrams of the ovens that were fueled by human fat, copies of official records and even photographs.

I saw and read the same thing. I believe the jews not some stinking nazi.