Israel bans use of word "Nakba" in textbooks

When you respond adequately to the series of questions I have posed to you a few posts earlier, in addition to following up on my question to you regarding the various occasions when Palestinians have had the opportunity to secure statehood, which directly relates to the nakba garbage.

As I suspected....you made it up. Hand waving and diversion are not a suitable response to a simple request to backup a claim.

You refer to a land for peace agreement that apparently only exists in your imagination.

I'll just add it to the list of failed claims.
 
As I suspected....you made it up. Hand waving and diversion are not a suitable response to a simple request to backup a claim.

You refer to a land for peace agreement that apparently only exists in your imagination.

I'll just add it to the list of failed claims.

The questions you failed to respond to can be found just a few posts ago, in this very thread. The question I asked of you pertaining to opportunities for Palestinians to have secured statehood must have been posed months ago. Surely, sufficient time has elapsed in which to reply with sound, historical information. The way it works is you answer my questions first and then I answer your questions.
 
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The questions you failed to respond to can be found just a few posts ago, in this very thread. The question I asked of you pertaining to opportunities for Palestinians to have secured statehood must have been posed months ago. Surely, sufficient time has elapsed in which to reply with sound, historical information. The way it works is you answer my questions first and then I answer your questions.

whatever....I apparently won't answer questions that consist of requests to back up an argument I don't even present....... Any and all questions from you have been answered and where they are demands to back up something that is not even my opinion this has been explained.

Blatant armwaving and diversion....I'm guessing you also require "satisfactory" answers too? If I do that, provide support for a position you have assigned for me and the answers are to your satisfaction Then...and only then you will make the unicorn appear...

Laugh out loud....you meet em all on skeptic sites :) Do you honestly think that the fact you have been caught out yet again blatantly making stuff up is not obvious to all?

On the list it goes.....Its a long list, This policy of regular fabrication does nothing for your spotless reputation.
 
Laugh out loud....you meet em all on skeptic sites :) Do you honestly think that the fact you have been caught out yet again blatantly making stuff up is not obvious to all?

On the list it goes.....Its a long list, This policy of regular fabrication does nothing for your spotless reputation.

Just out of curiosity, what did he make up this time?
 
whatever....I apparently won't answer questions that consist of requests to back up an argument I don't even present....... Any and all questions from you have been answered and where they are demands to back up something that is not even my opinion this has been explained.

Translation: You are incapable of answering my questions.

Blatant armwaving and diversion....I'm guessing you also require "satisfactory" answers too? If I do that, provide support for a position you have assigned for me and the answers are to your satisfaction Then...and only then you will make the unicorn appear...

Translation: What were you thinking even attempting to engage me in a debate?

Laugh out loud....you meet em all on skeptic sites :) Do you honestly think that the fact you have been caught out yet again blatantly making stuff up is not obvious to all?

On the list it goes.....Its a long list, This policy of regular fabrication does nothing for your spotless reputation.

Translation: You recognize the error of your ways.
 
Just out of curiosity, what did he make up this time?
a land for peace agreement..

"The sense among Israelis that Pals are not interested in peace is further deepened by the events surrounding unilateral withrawal from Gaza by Israel, in a land-for-peace agreement that led to 6,000 rockets fired into Israel from Gaza since the withrawal."

apparently the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza settlements was part of a land for peace agreement....oooops. When asked for details of the agreement (he made it up) he has fallen back to handwaving diversions and gibberish responses.

caught with the hand in the cookie jar again.
 
a land for peace agreement..

"The sense among Israelis that Pals are not interested in peace is further deepened by the events surrounding unilateral withrawal from Gaza by Israel, in a land-for-peace agreement that led to 6,000 rockets fired into Israel from Gaza since the withrawal."

apparently the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza settlements was part of a land for peace agreement....oooops. When asked for details of the agreement (he made it up) he has fallen back to handwaving diversions and gibberish responses.

caught with the hand in the cookie jar again.

Many people are patiently awaiting your [very belated] responses to questions you have long neglected to answer. We hunger for that wisdom.
 
a land for peace agreement..

"The sense among Israelis that Pals are not interested in peace is further deepened by the events surrounding unilateral withrawal from Gaza by Israel, in a land-for-peace agreement that led to 6,000 rockets fired into Israel from Gaza since the withrawal."
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lololol!!!!

there was a Land for Peace agreemant between Hamas and Israel????

holy cow...he really did just make that up out of thin air!!! wow.

Unilateral withdrawal means decided by and initiated by one party...only.

looks like someone needs a new dictionary.

:D
 
Just out of curiosity, what did he make up this time?
Maybe you could ask him to support it. It would be interesting to see if he has a different excuse for you....

In my case he can't make the Unicorn appear because I apparently have not answered some questions he vaguely refers to. What will be the excuse for you?
 
Maybe you could ask him to support it. It would be interesting to see if he has a different excuse for you....

In my case he can't make the Unicorn appear because I apparently have not answered some questions he vaguely refers to. What will be the excuse for you?

Anyone with some depth of knowledge of the subject matter should be equipped to substantiate Israel's withrawal from Gaza as part of a land-for-pace agreement. Evidently, your posts suggest bewilderment. Now, what were those times, again, that the Palestinians had the opportunity for statehood, which is related to the nakba?
 
Anyone with some depth of knowledge of the subject matter should be equipped to substantiate Israel's withrawal from Gaza as part of a land-for-pace agreement.

please supply us with the dates, locations, and parties involved in the negotiations for this Israel-Hamas land for peace deal regarding the Gaza Strip.

or are you just making things up.....as you type.

...again.

I don't think slandering the Israeli govt. is a nice thing to do. Accusing them of engaging in negotiations with Hamas.
 
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please supply us with the dates, locations, and parties involved in the negotiations for this Israel-Hamas land for peace deal regarding the Gaza Strip.

or are you just making things up.....as you type.

...again.

I don't think slandering the Israeli govt. is a nice thing to do. Accusing them of engaging in negotiations with Hamas.
I think you nade a big mistake with this post....He will want to spend a couple of pages defining "please" then move on to possible alternate meanings of "supply".
:)

I think the Modus operandi is established, I think I'll just give up on trying to pry logic out of a troll.
 
I think you nade a big mistake with this post....He will want to spend a couple of pages defining "please" then move on to possible alternate meanings of "supply".
:)

I think the Modus operandi is established, I think I'll just give up on trying to pry logic out of a troll.

Answer my questions, which have gone unanswered, now, for months, then I answer your question. Should be EZ to understand. It should be my pleasure to educate you on the finer points of the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.
 
Answer my questions, which have gone unanswered, now, for months, then I answer your question. Should be EZ to understand. It should be my pleasure to educate you on the finer points of the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

if you are actually going to attempt to tell us that Israel negotiated a land-for-peace agreement with Hamas over the Gaza Strip, then...well...what more is there to say?

Again, Israel negotiated a land-for-peace deal with Hamas...where Israel would evacuate all the Gaza settlements and Israeli troops from within the borders of Gaza..and Hamas would end all conflict with Israel originating from Gaza?

Is this actually what you are going to attempt to tell us????



:jaw-dropp
 
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Again, Israel negotiated a land-for-peace deal with Hamas...where Israel would evacuate all the Gaza settlements and Israeli troops from within the borders of Gaza..and Hamas would end all conflict with Israel originating from Gaza?

Is this actually what you are going to attempt to tell us????



:jaw-dropp
he could show you in an instant! if only we would meet the preconditions...he would do it. Honestly he would.....its our fault for not meeting the preconditions he sets (subject to future elaboration of the preconditions).

actually if there were a land for peace agreement covering the Gaza withdrawal I'm wondering why marc39 is the only person who I've ever heard mention it, maybe you need special goggles to see these things.
 
This organizzation addreses the claim that Jews left behind $300 billion worth of property, based, in large part, on existing deeds to property...

http://wojac.com/

And where on their website do they give details of their evidence? Or do you expect us to go looking for evidence which backs up your claim that the average Arab Jewish family left behind a million dollars worth of property? -- and that assumes very small families.

Morris says in his book on the '48 War and has said in interviews there was NEVER an official Israeli gov't policy of Arab expulsion during the '48 War.

Read the interview again. I get the impression that the policy was officially unofficial.

He would have loved to have uncovered such a plan, as would any of the so-called New Historians, when the archives were declassified, but, none has ever been found, nor, is there evidence such a policy existed.

He himself feels it was the case that Ben-Gurion gave the orders, and he cites the evidence he has: it would be too big a coincidence if expulsion orders were signed immediately after Ben-Gurion visited with Moshe Carmel and Yitzhak Rabin.

Read it again, in answer to an explicit question:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=380986&contrassID=2

Haaretz said:
What you are telling me here, as though by the way, is that in Operation Hiram there was a comprehensive and explicit expulsion order. Is that right?

"Yes. One of the revelations in the book is that on October 31, 1948, the commander of the Northern Front, Moshe Carmel, issued an order in writing to his units to expedite the removal of the Arab population. Carmel took this action immediately after a visit by Ben-Gurion to the Northern Command in Nazareth. There is no doubt in my mind that this order originated with Ben-Gurion. Just as the expulsion order for the city of Lod, which was signed by Yitzhak Rabin, was issued immediately after Ben-Gurion visited the headquarters of Operation Dani [July 1948]."

So it is Morris's opinion that Ben-Gurion gave the explusion order.

You are misrepresenting Morris, for reasons I've stated.

You'll have to explain his words very carefully in order to convince me of that. Perhaps if you link to quotes of his. I have done so: he believes the expulsion orders came from Ben-Gurion. Did he find official papers detailing that this was official policy? No. But he did find a pattern of expulsions which leads him to the conclusion that there was "an atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the idea. The officer corps understands what is required of them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is created."

That is Morris' opinion, from his own mouth. And from that I conclude he agrees that Arabs were forced out by the Israeli government.

You'd do better to quible on the meaning of the word "government" than to challenge what Morris' opinion is.

I've read all of Morris's books and have read much else written about him. I've spoken with and have corresponded with Morris. I'm quite knowledgeable about Benny Morris.

Then how do you explain his responses in the Haaretz interview? Care to share other quotes of Morris which might back up your claims?

The sense among Israelis that Pals are not interested in peace is further deepened by the events surrounding unilateral withrawal from Gaza by Israel, in a land-for-peace agreement that led to 6,000 rockets fired into Israel from Gaza since the withrawal.

You have it wrong again. The withdrawal was unilateral -- there was no agreement. Since political negotiations didn't bring about the withdrawal, what did? Could it have been violent resistance?
 
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if you are actually going to attempt to tell us that Israel negotiated a land-for-peace agreement with Hamas over the Gaza Strip, then...well...what more is there to say?

Well, to be fair, he didn't actually mention Hamas. He just referred to a land-for-peace agreement -- he didn't specifiy who the agreement was between.

But, to most of the world, "unilateral" refers to there only being one party.
 
Well, to be fair, he didn't actually mention Hamas. He just referred to a land-for-peace agreement -- he didn't specifiy who the agreement was between.

But, to most of the world, "unilateral" refers to there only being one party.

Don't worry, I'm sure Marc39 will be back in a matter of minutes to tell us who were the parties to this agreement. My money is on Israel coming to a deal with either the boy scouts of america or the Sri Lankan Cricket team.
 
Besides all the beef in here, are there any official records about the reason to ban the word Nakba besides the obviously propaganda-driven agenda by Lieberman, the racist?
 

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