Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[makaya325]

Don't get out in the bush much, do you... But nice attempt at dodging the issue you raised, towhit (towhoo?)[/QUOTE

Wrong

]Evidence that a person is more likely to correctly identify a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight?

I meant to say an avian organism.

Sightings of "Hummingbirds" in Europe is a classic case. Lookup Hummingbird Hawk Moth.

Since humming birds have fast beating wings, it is not incredible to mistake it for a moth.

Similarly, when in East Africa for 4 weeks, we were all so keen to spot things that a few new animals were discovered by our group. Notably the Stump Leopard and the Boulder Cheetah.Non sequitur.[

What?

URL="http://www.aou.org/checklist/north/full.php"]2048[/URL]The quote was "terrestrial animal", way to backpedal.

It is easier to see something on land than in water.

 

[EHocking]

Don't get out in the bush much, do you... But nice attempt at dodging the issue you raised, towhit (towhoo?)[/QUOTE

Wrong

Pretty obvious that you lack experience then if you think birds "are rather quick and tiny".

Try this sentence, "Dogs are large and slow".
As a daschund owner you should be able to see the flaw in your assertion.

I meant to say an avian organism.

And that has what to do with the question that you state that a person is more likely to correctly identify a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight?

Try this as an example.

I say that, once I found the animal, that the site has incorrectly identified it as well.

Since humming birds have fast beating wings, it is not incredible to mistake it for a moth.

Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick.

It's the moth that resembles a hummingbird - there are no hummingbirds in Europe, but regularly someone "IDs" one.

What?

Examples of errors of identification.

It is easier to see something on land than in water.

... and the goalposts move yet again.

So you're now saying that it's easier to see something on land than in the air and in water? See the link above for an example of how wrong you are.

 

[makaya325]

Pretty obvious that you lack experience then if you think birds "are rather quick and tiny".

Try this sentence, "Dogs are large and slow".
As a daschund owner you should be able to see the flaw in your assertion.
And that has what to do with the question that you state that a person is more likely to correctly identify a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight?

Try this as an example.

I say that, once I found the animal, that the site has incorrectly identified it as well.
Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick.

It's the moth that resembles a hummingbird - there are no hummingbirds in Europe, but regularly someone "IDs" one.
Examples of errors of identification.
... and the goalposts move yet again.

So you're now saying that it's easier to see something on land than in the air and in water? See the link above for an example of how wrong you are.

Is a person more likely to identify the terrestrial anima on land, or a flying lump 100ft up in the air, or a half submerged back of anything in water.

 

[EHocking]

Is a person more likely to identify the terrestrial anima on land, or a flying lump 100ft up in the air, or a half submerged back of anything in water.

I have done all of these.
It is YOUR assertion that
1. A person is more likely to be correct in identifying a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight.
2. It is easier to see something on land than in water.

So back it with something more substantial than mere opinion.

BTW. Did you find the animal in the photo that I linked to?

I don't believe that they have identified all of them it correctly.

 

[makaya325]

I have done all of these.
It is YOUR assertion that
1. A person is more likely to be correct in identifying a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight.
2. It is easier to see something on land than in water.

So back it with something more substantial than mere opinion.

BTW. Did you find the animal in the photo that I linked to?

I don't believe that they have identified it correctly.

There is no case study on identifying different animal species, but it is quite obvious if you have ever been out on the waters and in the woods like i used to.

 

[EHocking]

There is no case study on identifying different animal species, but it is quite obvious if you have ever been out on the waters and in the woods like i used to.

I disagree, from personal experience in a number of environments and in a number of countries.

So what you are saying is, "in your experience" you find it difficult.

You are not "all" in the same way birds are not "rather quick and tiny".

ETA: DID you find the animals in the photo?

 

[makaya325]

I disagree, from personal experience in a number of environments and in a number of countries.

So what you are saying is, "in your experience" you find it difficult.

You are not "all" in the same way birds are not "rather quick and tiny".

ETA: DID you find the animals in the photo?

Yes i did, rather easily.

 

[EHocking]

Yes i did, rather easily.

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[desertgal]

There is no case study on identifying different animal species, but it is quite obvious if you have ever been out on the waters and in the woods like i used to.

Of course. Little mak has a great deal more experience playing wild man of the woods in his 18 years than anyone else here. He's a literal Grizzly Adams/Jeremiah Johnson.

 

[makaya325]

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You want me to point it out for you? Ill be glad to. Should i circle it for you? I have it circled, but cant post it bc of large bandwith.

 

[makaya325]

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

Yes, please, go on.

Before I begin, I thought I'd provide a source for the London subway incident.

If this is to be believed, an escaped male slave sparked reports of a "wild woman"

You might be familiar with the story of children's radio show host Uncle Don cussing about kids without realizing that his microphone was still on. As this site will show you, the incident never happened, despite the claims of many (including some people claiming to have seen him do it at a live show).

I feel that all the examples I've presented are enough to convince a reasonable person that people can see things that aren't really there and give incorrect details about what they saw.

A person is more likely to be correct in identifying a terrestrial animal than an animal in flight.

If you would, could you please expand on this? I want to see if my guess of what you'll say is right or wrong.

I'll admit this is anecdotal, but I thought you might find this alleged account of a person mistaking a bison for Bigfoot to be interesting.

The gorilla mask incident gave no mention of height, only smell.

I didn't cite that as an example of mistaken height. Instead, it is an example of people mistaking the type of thing they saw (not unlike seeing a fence post quickly shoot out of the water and thinking it's Nessie).

 

[makaya325]

Before I begin, I thought I'd provide a source for the London subway incident.

If this is to be believed, an escaped male slave sparked reports of a "wild woman"

You might be familiar with the story of children's radio show host Uncle Don cussing about kids without realizing that his microphone was still on. As this site will show you, the incident never happened, despite the claims of many (including some people claiming to have seen him do it at a live show).

I feel that all the examples I've presented are enough to convince a reasonable person that people can see things that aren't really there and give incorrect details about what they saw.



If you would, could you please expand on this? I want to see if my guess of what you'll say is right or wrong.

I'll admit this is anecdotal, but I thought you might find this alleged account of a person mistaking a bison for Bigfoot to be interesting.



I didn't cite that as an example of mistaken height. Instead, it is an example of people mistaking the type of thing they saw (not unlike seeing a fence post quickly shoot out of the water and thinking it's Nessie).

People may be mistaken, but they MAY also be correct, which is seen daily.

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

People may be mistaken, but they MAY also be correct, which is seen daily.

Emphasis on "may," especially when it comes to sightings of cryptids and paranormal things.

 

[makaya325]

Emphasis on "may," especially when it comes to sightings of cryptids and paranormal things.

You can not assume they must be mistaken because of the lack of evidence on the other camp.

 

[makaya325]

Do people make mistakes identifying green lights from red lights most of the time? Do they?

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

You can not assume they must be mistaken because of the lack of evidence on the other camp.

Less "lack of evidence," more "investigations into the matter showed otherwise."

BTW, where's that promissary note you were going on about?

 

[makaya325]

Less "lack of evidence," more "investigations into the matter showed otherwise."

BTW, where's that promissary note you were going on about?

I was mistaken about the note. excitement plus assuming=mistake.

 

[desertgal]

I was mistaken about the note. excitement plus assuming=mistake.

Of course. There were so many Roger Pattersons living in Yakima who did/didn't go to the same/different high school/college and borrowed tons of money from Gramps...it's easy to see why you would make that mistake.

But, wait, here you say that you weren't mistaken about the note...

 

[makaya325]

Of course. There were so many Roger Pattersons living in Yakima who did/didn't go to the same/different high school/college and borrowed tons of money from Gramps...it's easy to see why you would make that mistake.

Listen, buddy, someone by the name of ROGER PATTERSON was loaned money from my grandfather for who knows what.

But, wait, here you say that you weren't mistaken about the note...

I NOW admit that i made a mistake and misread it.