Richard Gage Q&A

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Me: Are you just pissed because you have male pattern baldness?
 
RexStevens said:
Dear Sir,I have a question! In my career as a craftsman,I have a time or two worked high Iron, and at no time did we ever use thermite.Where did the thermite come from.It is not a by product of burning diesel. If there was thermite present and it was not there before The crash.Then it had to be on the plane!Thank You.
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It's occasionally used to weld rail-tracks but other than that, yeah, it's not that common to have around because it's not that useful, either in construction or demolition.

It's especially bad for covert demolition because it burns with a sun-like radiance that's easily visible even during the day.

When you ask where the thermite came from - I assume you mean the reported thermite samples by Jones et al? That's not thermite. It's supposed to be nano-thermite residue or some such thing but there's not any evidence that that is what it is. The elements that supposedly prove it to be thermite would have already been present in large quantities in the Twin Towers (or any other large office building for that matter) so there's nothing all that odd about finding them in the rubble.

There are a number of other threads dedicated to thermite if you're interested in this -

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140317&highlight=thermite
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140363&highlight=thermite
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127380&highlight=thermite
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128732&highlight=thermite
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125819&highlight=thermite
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123033&highlight=thermite
 
Heiwa said:
Dude, how can you cram that much BS into so small a space?

1. Rapid onset of “collapse” - how, why? Can gravity alone do it?
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Rapid onset? The perimeter columns of the towers were observed sagging and bowing inward several minutes before collapse started. No explosions were heard during that time. That ain't sudden, bubba.

2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a full second prior to collapse. Gravity?
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BS. Chief Pfeifer did not act as though he heard anything going on at grouind level when the south tower started collapsing. He looked UP. Do you understand the implications of that? The sound he reacted to was OVERHEAD. Explosions heard at ground level proximal to collapse could only be interpreted as charges set to blow the columns at ground level, and nobody with a room-temp or higher IQ believes that this was done. That is just a totally wierd statement to put in this post.

This would not rule out that someone of Gage's low level of mentation might believe it., but it is still BS.

Actually, there is only one statement of actual fact in your entire post, but you manage to screw that up, too:

8. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples. Ditto - does gravity melt material?
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No. Sulphuric acid does. The only true staement in your whole post and you got nowhere with it.
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Tweeter said:
If the debunker movement is so popular why isnt there a large group attending these lectures? Is it because they can only sit at a computer to do their criticizing(one exception;Gravy)?
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Yah it must suck that a handful of internet skeptics could be seen as the biggest obstacle for your grand movement.

But we should only take a minimal amount of credit. The lack of motivation, laziness, and whiny nature of the members of the truth movement deserve most of the credit for their own ineptitude.

TAM;)
 
And if we did attend, what would we we do, Tweeter? Interrupt and act like a bunch of teen-aged WACers with no class or culture?
 
Tweeter said:
If the debunker movement is so popular why isnt there a large group attending these lectures? Is it because they can only sit at a computer to do their criticizing(one exception;Gravy)?
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Uh......might it be that we have lives? You know, better things to do with our time than waste it listening to a whack-job spouting nonsense and non sequiturs?

Let him preach to the ever-diminishing number in the 9/11 Twoofer choir.
 
leftysergeant said:
And if we did attend, what would we we do, Tweeter? Interrupt and act like a bunch of teen-aged WACers with no class or culture?
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Sarge- could you honestly say that Richard Gage is doing what he is doing out of any kind of badness ?
 
bill smith said:
Sarge- could you honestly say that Richard Gage is doing what he is doing out of any kind of badness ?
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No, just greed. He feeds off of stupid people too... but I think the truth movement has that coming since they love to apologize for terrorists.
 
HyJinX said:
No, just greed. He feeds off of stupid people too... but I think the truth movement has that coming since they love to apologize for terrorists.
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don't forget paranoid government hatred...we can't forget PGH.

TAM:)
 
There are hundreds of questions to show his ignorance – the difficulty is that the response will be "that’s why we need an investigation."

I suppose my favorite question is:

For WTC 1 and 2, do you think that the collapse started at the base of the building or near the impact zone?

Ans: Near the impact zone ( this is obviously the correct answer )

1. So how did the explosives survived the fire for so long.?
2. Do you think that the demo team agreed with the hijackers which floor levels the planes would hit and which columns the planes would take out and which ones they would have to wire up?
3. How did they place explosives on the columns, it couldn’t be as part of the renovations of the elevator, because the elevator shafts only gave you access to 10 out of the 50 core columns at the impact levels? Don’t you think people will have complained about dust and damage to dry-walls if demo teams were removing dry wall, then fire protection and welding demo charges to the columns? Have you seen what these charges demo charges look like?

Ans: At the Base ( which is wrong )

1. Do you really think that thermite can cut a hole thro the 8in thick steel columns that existed at the base of the building?
2. Normally demo teams remove half the steel before they blow the rest. Was there any evidence of this? During the clean up it took teams about a day to cut thro the steel…don’t you think that this may have set of a few fire alarms and created a bit of a mess?
3. Why would you chose to try and demolish a tower by cutting thro its strongest part?
 
Bluesky said:
I suppose my favorite question is:

For WTC 1 and 2, do you think that the collapse started at the base of the building or near the impact zone?

Ans: At the Base ( which is wrong )

1. Do you really think that thermite can cut a hole thro the 8in thick steel columns that existed at the base of the building?
2. Normally demo teams remove half the steel before they blow the rest. Was there any evidence of this? During the clean up it took teams about a day to cut thro the steel…don’t you think that this may have set of a few fire alarms and created a bit of a mess?
3. Why would you chose to try and demolish a tower by cutting thro its strongest part?
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4. Why were the cores of both towers still visibly standing in some photographs and videos for seconds after the complete collapse of the floors and perimeter columns?
 
bill smith said:
Sarge- could you honestly say that Richard Gage is doing what he is doing out of any kind of badness ?
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I don't think he started out being deliberately bad, but I think he has ended up there.

He ended up being deluded by his own self importance and self worth. He has found fame and fortune on his mission and now works for ae911truth full time. He has a large web site, where he is the hero, and he gets to travel round the world as the "Architect of Destruction", making these silly speaches. Whereas in real life he is a loser and would be an unemployed architect who has done nothing of substance.

It is easy to see why he was corrupted. And you can understand why he will do anything to keep going. Thats why his web site is full of half truths and quarter -truths.

The thing is, he knows the counter arguments against what he is saying. He knows what he presents is preposterous and illogical, and is just a onesided story of insinuation and generally vaque claims while showing shocking and disturbing videos. He knows it is bogus or he is incredibly stupid, which I do not believe.

If his organization was in any way interested in the truth then they would wish to explore and examine both sides of the arguments and then debate the issue in a carefull and professional way. He gives the Truth Movement a bad name.
 
Sam.I.Am said:
4. Why were the cores of both towers still visibly standing in some photographs and videos for seconds after the complete collapse of the floors and perimeter columns?
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whats that got to do with anything?
And I am not sure its true?
 
Bluesky said:
whats that got to do with anything?
And I am not sure its true?
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I can't post the images (minimum 15 post limit) or post the urls for them (same reason )but these are what I have stored on my imageshack. PM me and I'll send them to you.

South tower core as seen from the west. You can make out individual columns.

South tower core as seen from the east through the backlit dust clouds.

Same view as above (note the missing south tower core) as the north tower collapses). Also note the 'Spire' of the north tower.

North tower 'Spire' from a slightly different angle but still looking east.

If it's true as claimed (done from the bottom), then those would be the first to go no? I mean they obviously didn't do the perimeter columns first because they were visible from the outside and someone would've caught it on film, tape or audio.
 
Heiwa said:
2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a full second prior to collapse. Gravity?
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The Towers collapsed from the top down. Any ground explosions are discounted by the way they collapsed as well as the fact that explosives progressively being detonated to cause the building destruction would be unignorable. Also you mention thermite as a candidate for what caused the destruction but then mention ground explosions as if explosives were used. I'd say choose a theory and stick with it.

4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed mostly in its own footprint. Gravity?
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"Mostly landed in its footprint" is an extreme mischaracterization. The Towers completely destroyed several surrounding buildings as well as badly maiming others.

5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds. Gravity?
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Pyroclastic:
1. Composed chiefly of fragments of volcanic origin, as agglomerate, tuff, and certain other rocks; volcaniclastic.

2. formed by or involving fragmentation as a result of volcanic or igneous action

6. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly-qualified witnesses. Gravity?
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If there were any molten metal it was likely aluminum.

7. Chemical signature of Thermite (high tech incendiary) found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples by physics professor Steven Jones, PhD. What has gravity to do with it?
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False. Jones supposedely tested steel samples (not molten metal), found sulfur and jumped to the conclusion it was a product of Thermate. And he found a few small (the largest being 1/16th of an inch) red chips (likely paint) in dust samples. Even if this WAS Thermite you can't conclude "Thermite was used to demolish the world trade centers!!!" simply because a several extremely small chips were found in dust samples.

The scientific method is being completely abandonded when this conclusion is made.

10. Fore-knowledge of “collapse” by media, NYPD, FDNY.
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It doesn't take a genius to recognize when a buildings shows signs of collapse.
 
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