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Is ULTIMA1 hinting that he thinks a second 757 hit the Pentagon? and that he's confused about which one the wheel in the picture was from?
 
I see U1 is pulling a KreeL and making an absolute requirement that will never be met. The NTSB does not laundry list all parts they find. Even if they did for the FBI, it would most likely not appear on any report since it is irrelevant to the case. The fact is that the FDR was positively identifies as coming from AA77. Therefore, it would be safe to say that all aircraft parts that were found were also from AA77. However, deductive reasoning is not a part of the twoofers skill set.
 
It's been nearly 8 years. I think the truther "movement" has been reduced to this dodge and weave that we see on display here. Why continue to engage with people who make sport of evading logic and denying common sense? We continually try to present fact and logic to people who could care less, who find it entertaining to turn a blind eye. We try to paint them into a corner, just in an effort to make them look at the stupidity of their own theories, but they wriggle off the hook by becoming dumber, if that's even possible.

So what's the point?
 
Can any of the "truthers" here show me even one accident report where all of the serial numbers of all of the parts from the wreck were recorded?

Just ONE?

ValueJet 597 crash? http://www.bluecoat.org/reports/NTSB_96_Valujet.html

NOPE! And in that one, the wreckage was so shredded, it was not even clear where the plane went.

American Eagle 4184, Roselawn, IN? http://www.bluecoat.org/reports/NTSB_96_Roselawn_ATR.pdf

NOPE! Another plane that was reduced to tiny bits.

Think I am cherry-picking? Go find me the report that proves it.

In my experience the ONLY times serial numbers enter into the NTSB record in an air crash are when there is some doubt about the maintenance history or authentic manufacture of a part contributing to the accident. I have read a lot of NTSB reports, and have only see this ONCE.
 
alexi_drago said:
Is ULTIMA1 hinting that he thinks a second 757 hit the Pentagon? and that he's confused about which one the wheel in the picture was from?
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I rather think he's confused as to why on earth anyone would strap landing gear to a cruiser missile.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I love the smell of believers crapping themselves when they cannot come up with evidence to support what they post.
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I dunno about the rest of you, but I was reminded of this scene,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw7CSkbpOp8
when I saw this post.

This list is alright, though I have seen some of the photos before, on troofer posters. I really like the debris falling faster than the building picture that was posted somewhere on page 1.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I am going by fire fighters and engineers reports.
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I have not seen a fire fighter who was there, or an engineer of any repute who agrees with your conclusions. As a veteran fire fighter, I find most of your statements concerning the progress of the fires through the buildings and the effect they could have had on the steel totally laughable.
 
Just ONE? Can't do it, truthers?

If you can't, you hereby concede the whole point and acknowledge that the Pentagon was hit by an airliner flown by hijackers.

And your lives are meaningless.

Have a nice day.
 
CORed said:
Now I get it. The bodies were from AA77, but the wheel came from some other plane that hit the Pentaagon that nobody noticed. Makes perfect sense.
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You can't ever "win" Whack-a-Mole.

Why bother debating him? If you ever think he's going to cry uncle, he won't, he'll just change the subject to something else until you corner him again and he'll change the subject to something else until you...
 
alexi_drago said:
Is ULTIMA1 hinting that he thinks a second 757 hit the Pentagon? and that he's confused about which one the wheel in the picture was from?
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There is no evidence or reports that state the wheel at the Pentatgon is from a 757 or from AA77. Stop the lies.
 
lapman said:
I see U1 is pulling a KreeL and making an absolute requirement that will never be met. The NTSB does not laundry list all parts they find. Even if they did for the FBI, it would most likely not appear on any report since it is irrelevant to the case. The fact is that the FDR was positively identifies as coming from AA77. Therefore, it would be safe to say that all aircraft parts that were found were also from AA77. However, deductive reasoning is not a part of the twoofers skill set.
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http://www.911blogger.com/node/13149
The FBI's refusal to release the serial number data contained by aircraft components collected from the 9/11 plane crash scenes has resulted in a civil lawsuit filed in federal court, seeking to obtain this information:

Per U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, all federally registered civil aircraft are to contain uniquely numbered components:

The cited 11/26/2007 FAA FOIA request specifically requested the following:

"That which reveals or indicates the unique identifying information (i.e.: serial numbers, etc.), of the Flight Data Recorders (FDR's) and Cockpit Voice Recorders (CVR's) that were last contained within the following deregistered aircraft, used during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001."

However, the FBI and now the FAA, has refused to reveal aircraft component serial number data in their possessions, that would confirm the alleged federal registry identifications of the commercial civil aircraft said to have been used to carry out the 9/11 attacks.

By document labeled "Remarks of Carol Carmody Vice-Chairman, National Transportation Safety Board Leadership in Times of Crisis Seminar", it is indicated that the director of the FBI requested that the NTSB "help identify aircraft parts" belonging to the said aircraft.

By document labeled "Testimony of Marion C. Blakey, Chairman National Transportation Safety Board before the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation United States Senate", it is indicated that the NTSB assisted the FBI with the process of "aircraft parts identification" regarding the said aircraft.

A 12/16/2007 public correspondence e-mail inquiry of the NTSB posed the following question:

"Will the NTSB refer to recovered aircraft component serial number data, to determine the positive ID of an aircraft following a mishap, in the absence of other identifying data?"

The following e-mail response was provided by a Susan Stevenson of the NTSB on 12/26/2007:

"Yes. NTSB investigators rarely encounter a scenario when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent. But during those occasions, investigators will record serial numbers of major components, and then contact the manufacturer of those components in an attempt to determine what aircraft the component was installed upon."

The above cited method of identification was apparently required to obtain the positive identifications of American Airlines flight 11 and United Airlines flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center towers.

By FAA documents identified as "Summary of Air Traffic Hijack Events", pages 4 and 13, it is indicated that American Airlines flight 11 (N334AA) and United Airlines flight 175 (N612UA) were not transmitting proper transponder identification data at the time of their respective destructions and that therefore, proper aircraft identification cannot have been obtained from this absent or erroneous data.

By documents labeled "NOTES TO CHAPTER 1", page 456, of the "Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States" (2004), it is indicated that "the CVRs and FDRs from American 11 and United 175 were not found" and that therefore, proper aircraft identification cannot have been obtained from this absent data.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
[The following e-mail response was provided by a Susan Stevenson of the NTSB on 12/26/2007:

"Yes. NTSB investigators rarely encounter a scenario when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent. But during those occasions, investigators will record serial numbers of major components, and then contact the manufacturer of those components in an attempt to determine what aircraft the component was installed upon."
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Ultima:

The only scenario I can think of where serial numbers might be needed is something like Tenerife, where two 747's collided. Serial numbers might be needed to identify which debris came from which plane then.

On 9/11, there was radar tracking and ACARS and passenger DNA recovered from the crash sites, each of which by itself indisputably places each plane at the site where it crashed. To argue otherwise is lunacy.

The identification of the planes used on 9/11 is apparent to everyone except you.
 
jhunter1163 said:
The identification of the planes used on 9/11 is apparent to everyone except you.
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Wrong again serial numbers had to used to ID the planes that hit the towers because the lose of transponder, FDR's and other ways to ID the plane could not be found as my source shows.
 
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Serial had to be used?

Please show us all of the serial numbers for those flights, Roger.
 
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