Hamas & Israel Cease-Fire. Hamas Violates cease-fire.

[Marc39]

no, you see. if you don't live in Israel, you are only allowed to support Israel. Never critisize Israel.

let me change that, even if you live in Israel, you are not allowed to critisize Israel.

if you criticize Israel..you are an anti-Semite.

But, if you only obtain your views of Israel from biased sources, like B'Tselem, where you picked up that bogus item about the Jew-Only road, your posts become rubbish.

Owned.

 

[Marc39]

I hate this kind of argument.

You think that the majority of people supporting Israel are in Israel? Does that nullify all of their arguments?

No. What you are engaging in is an ad hominem.

What are your sources of information on Israel?

 

[scissorhands]

I hate this kind of argument.

You think that the majority of people supporting Israel are in Israel? Does that nullify all of their arguments?

No. What you are engaging in is an ad hominem.

Id say that their arguments are fairly irrelevant to a country and population that has been engaged in trying to survive being wiped out by neighbouring powers, since it came into existence.
The last thing I would care about, if I was an Israeli, is your opinion on anything to do with how I made sure my country and people survived.

 

[Lonewulf]

The last thing I would care about, if I was an Israeli, is your opinion on anything to do with how I made sure my country and people survived.

Me as an individual? Probably not. "Me" as in "Americans"? Guess who funds Israel billions of dollars per year so they can "defend themselves"?

 

[Lonewulf]

What are your sources of information on Israel?

What I've learned in my International Relations class, and what I can find out and research for every point I come across. I don't rely on just one source like some.

Your question also has nothing at all to do with the quoted post -- if you had actually bothered reading it, and who I was quoting. If you can't stay on topic with relevant points, then don't bother quoting them.

 

[Thunder]

The last thing I would care about, if I was an Israeli, is your opinion on anything to do with how I made sure my country and people survived.

You don't have to care at all what we think about your defense measures.

But at the same time, if you tell us we have no right to criticize your actions...then don't pull your Holocaust guilt trips and other BS when we refuse to support your actions.

If you don't deserve our criticism..then you also don't deserve our support.

 

[scissorhands]

Me as an individual? Probably not. "Me" as in "Americans"? Guess who funds Israel billions of dollars per year so they can "defend themselves"?

You think you represent some kind of mass opinion?
Take it up with your gubmint.

 

[Marc39]

What I've learned in my International Relations class, and what I can find out and research for every point I come across. I don't rely on just one source like some.

Your question also has nothing at all to do with the quoted post -- if you had actually bothered reading it, and who I was quoting. If you can't stay on topic with relevant points, then don't bother quoting them.

I have found just a small handful of objective sources of information on Israel and the Middle East. Many, if not most, are biased against Israel. Even sources inside Israel can be, and are, biased against Israel. If you get your information from only one side, you're not getting the whole picture.

 

[Thunder]

You think you represent some kind of mass opinion?
Take it up with your gubmint.

How about this?

We in the USA will no longer condemn any of Israel's actions or policies.

And in exchange, we will stop giving Israel any money. And we will no longer support Israel in the UN. And we will no longer vouch for Israel with NATO.

We will also cancel all favorite-nation status trade agreements with Israel and all defense treaties.

Sound fair to you?

 

[scissorhands]

You don't have to care at all what we think about your defense measures.

But at the same time, if you tell us we have no right to criticize your actions...then don't pull your Holocaust guilt trips and other BS when we refuse to support your actions.

If you don't deserve our criticism..then you also don't deserve our support.

don't pull your Holocaust guilt trips and other BS

Wow Parky!!
Are you sure you are Jewish?

 

[Thunder]

Wow Parky!!
Are you sure you are Jewish?

 

[scissorhands]

then don't pull your Holocaust guilt trips and other BS when we refuse to support your actions.

Whats this all about Parky?

 

[mortimer]

How about this?

We in the USA will no longer condemn any of Israel's actions or policies.

And in exchange, we will stop giving Israel any money. And we will no longer support Israel in the UN. And we will no longer vouch for Israel with NATO.

We will also cancel all favorite-nation status trade agreements with Israel and all defense treaties.

Sound fair to you?

How about we continue the military and other aid to Israel. And we continue to support Israel in the UN, NATO, and in our trade agreements.

Don't like it? Elect a different president. Betcha Ron Paul would accept your proposal.

 

[Marc39]

How about this?

We in the USA will no longer condemn any of Israel's actions or policies.

And in exchange, we will stop giving Israel any money. And we will no longer support Israel in the UN. And we will no longer vouch for Israel with NATO.

We will also cancel all favorite-nation status trade agreements with Israel and all defense treaties.

Sound fair to you?

What of Egypt's actions and policies? Don't they receive almost as much foreign aid as Israel? Haven't heard from the chattering class about the Egyptian police killing Sudanese refugees seeking asylum. Sudanese lives and Egptian acts of murder not important enough?

 

[Thunder]

How about we continue the military and other aid to Israel. And we continue to support Israel in the UN, NATO, and in our trade agreements.

Don't like it? Elect a different president. Betcha Ron Paul would accept your proposal.

Obama is gonna give Netanyahu a hard time. Marc my words.

 

[Marc39]

Obama is gonna give Netanyahu a hard time. Marc my words.

The Jewish community significantly helped elect Obama and will not allow him to do anything that would weaken Israel's security.

 

[scissorhands]

Holocaust guilt trips and other BS

Is that the kind of language you use regularly Parky?

 

[Lonewulf]

Is that the kind of language you use regularly Parky?

What, you're seriously going to criticize someone over the use of the term "BS"?

Don't you have better things to do?

 

[Thunder]

Is that the kind of language you use regularly Parky?

do you want to talk about the topic now?

 

[mortimer]

Obama is gonna give Netanyahu a hard time. Marc my words.

What do you mean by "a hard time"?