Split Thread AA77 FBI Investigation [split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained]

[ULTIMA1]

Ultima, we don't care what websites have to say. Those are called secondary sources, not primary.

At least i can post sources.

Can you post sources to debate the FBI worked the crime scene for 5 days?

Either post sources to deabte the 5 days working the crime scene or admit you are wrong

 

[Gavron]

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n0..._200109266.html
FBI investigators will move their operations to the Pentagon's north parking lot and continue to sift through debris for more evidence.

Looks like you are contradicting yourself, Roger. The FBI was still on site looking for evidence. Or are you saying the information in your own link is wrong?

 

[ULTIMA1]

Nobody has shown any doubts at all about the mainstream account.

I have shown several, such as the following.

1. NO photos or videos of AA77 hitting the Pentagon.

2. NO official reports matching parts found to planes.

3. NO coroner reports that bodies from the planes were in the buildings.

4. NO DNA reports to show all the hijackers are dead.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Looks like you are contradicting yourself, Roger. The FBI was still on site looking for evidence. Or are you saying the information in your own link is wrong?

Why are you afraid to admit to this:

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon.

 

[Gavron]

Who would have the official reports, Roger? The FBI? You mean the FBI reports that have not been released yet?

Ooooh....maybe THAT'S why the information isnt available yet.

 

[Gavron]

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n0..._200109266.html
FBI investigators will move their operations to the Pentagon's north parking lot and continue to sift through debris for more evidence.

Thanks for the link, Roger. It clearly shows the FBI was still on site looking for evidence. Still at the Pentagon. Or are you saying the information in your own link is wrong?

 

[FineWine]

I have shown several, such as the following.

1. NO photos or videos of AA77 hitting the Pentagon.

2. NO official reports matching parts found to planes.

3. NO coroner reports that bodies from the planes were in the buildings.

4. NO DNA reports to show all the hijackers are dead.

You have been shown to be lying about the remains of passengers and crew. No security cameras were able to catch the fast-moving plane, as you know. A real conspiracy would have faked videos. You ignore this crushing point for obvious reasons, but it won't go away just because you want it to.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Who would have the official reports, Roger? The FBI? You mean the FBI reports that have not been released yet?

Ooooh....maybe THAT'S why the information isnt available yet.

PLease stay on topic. Why are you afraid to admit to this?

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon.

 

[Gavron]

FBI investigators will move their operations to the Pentagon's north parking lot and continue to sift through debris for more evidence.
Clearly on topic, since it shows the FBI was still at the Pentagon. Plus the reports you mention would be in the FBI reports, which have not been released yet.

Why are you afraid to admit that?

 

[FineWine]

PLease stay on topic. Why are you afraid to admit to this?

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon.

What IS your point?

 

[ULTIMA1]

You have been shown to be lying about the remains of passengers and crew.

I have not lied, please show me the coroner reports that all the bodies fomr the planes were in the buildings.

No security cameras were able to catch the fast-moving plane.

Do you have proof of this?

A real conspiracy would have faked videos. You ignore this crushing point for obvious reasons, but it won't go away just because you want it to.

What conspiracy?
So you are saying that you have no real facts and evidence to support the official story.

 

[lapman]

As stated again and again, even if they thought they knew what happened they still had to do a complete criminal investigation.

Just like CSI does with a murder investigation even though they might have witnesses and clues as to what happened.

I have asked you to provide proof that they should have stayed there longer. You have failed every time. Just because they've spent longer on others is not proof. You have to provide real proof that 5 days was not enough time. How many agents did they have on scene? How much time per agent is supposed to be taken to do what at the scene? Provide proof that the AMD did not share their information with the FBI.

 

[ULTIMA1]

What IS your point?

That the FBI only worked the crime scene for 5 days.

All other terrorist crime scenes have been worked a lot longer.

 

[Gavron]

Did they leave after 5 days? They packed everything up and left then? Is that what you are saying?

Or.....did they continue to work at the Pentagon, gathering evidence, as the link yo provided stated?

 

[beachnut]

I have several sources.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44840
WASHINGTON, Sept. 24, 2001 – The FBI assumed crime-scene jurisdiction at the Pentagon terrorist attack site Sept. 21 from the Arlington County (Va.) Fire Department, officials said.

FBI officials estimate the crime scene investigation would last about a month, Arlington Fire Chief Edward P. Plaugher said. He said he expects "additional remains will be discovered during the course of the FBI investigation" and mortuary specialists will remain on site to process them.


http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/n0..._200109266.html
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2001 -- The FBI handed over Pentagon crash site management to the Army Military District of Washington at 7 a.m. today.

The transfer of responsibility marks the end of the FBI's crime scene investigation following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack against the Pentagon. MDW will oversee ongoing security operations around the damaged area of the building. FBI investigators will move their operations to the Pentagon's north parking lot and continue to sift through debris for more evidence.




http://www.epa.gov/compliance/criminal/homelandsecurity/911.html
On September 12, the FBI declared the Pentagon a crime scene, and EPA Special Agents were on the scene assisting in decontamination, gathering crime scene evidence (photography, videotaping, evidence gathering, etc.) and supplying other investigative and technical support to the FBI. In addition, EPA Special Agents assisted with body recovery and site safety until September 27, when the agents departed after the FBI returned the site to the control of the Department of Defense and FEMA.

On September 12, the FBI declared the Pentagon a crime scene, and EPA Special Agents were on the scene assisting in decontamination, gathering crime scene evidence (photography, videotaping, evidence gathering,

They were working from the 12th to the 27th, that is 15 days, the math free status of 911Truth is exposed again.

The funniest is the first one where you show you don't care how bad your lack of reading comprehension and logic is you are going to do better and push that envelope of stupid statement well past pathologically insane limits.

Even thought the FBI was collecting photo etc, the physical scene was handed over to the FBI after search and recover was complete and the scene was safe to the FBI on the 21st. The FBI finished at the impact area on the 26th and continued operations at the north parking lot.

So the FBI collected data from the 12th to the 27th when they let the scene back to be fixed.

Got math; got logic? What does it mean? It means you will quibble about the most insignificant semantic crap with no purpose, no conclusion.

Your post just proved the FBI worked the primary scene for 15 days until they had collected all the evidence the could find in the burned out section. SO?

This is what you as the super NSA analyst present? You job is what; making up fantasies and quibbling?



A plane at our base crashed and I was assigned control of the accident scene; the fire department owns the scene until recovery operations are complete and I work with them as to not interfere with their work. But I investigate the scene starting at once; photos are taken immediately and I work with FD! Then the fire chief gives me the scene, my scene for investigation; under the fire chief for recovery and making the scene safe but I started the scene investigation right away. So your quibbling is pure junk!

 

[ULTIMA1]

How many agents did they have on scene? How much time per agent is supposed to be taken to do what at the scene? Provide proof that the AMD did not share their information with the FBI.

Gee, you do not have access to the FBI website?

 

[BCR]

at least i can post sources.

Can you post sources to debate the fbi worked the crime scene for 5 days?

Either post sources to deabte the 5 days working the crime scene or admit you are wrong

i already did you _______ !

 

[ULTIMA1]

They were working from the 12th to the 27th, that is 15 days, the math free status of 911Truth is exposed again.

As stated and prven the FBI did not start working the Pentagon as a crime scene untill the 21st. Please stop the lies.

Even thought the FBI was collecting photo etc, the physical scene was handed over to the FBI after search and recover was complete and the scene was safe to the FBI on the 21st. The FBI finished at the impact area on the 26th and continued operations at the north parking lot.

Thanks for showing that the FBI only worked the area from 21 till the 26. If you do the math thats 5 days.

 

[FineWine]

I have not lied, please show me the coroner reports that all the bodies fomr the planes were in the buildings.



Do you have proof of this?



What conspiracy?
So you are saying that you have no real facts and evidence to support the official story.

There are no videos showing the plane hitting the building becuase the cameras, as explained in the Popular Mechanics book, weren't set to catch such a fast-moving object.

You are lying about the examination of the human remains.

 

[BigAl]

That the FBI only worked the crime scene for 5 days.

So what?

Make your case. Provide information that can be verified and logic that can be discussed to convince someone that never thought of 9/11 before that you have a point that means anything.

All other terrorist crime scenes have been worked a lot longer.

"ALL" ??????????????

How can you say "ALL" unless you can cite an exhaustive survey from the FBI of all terrorist investigations and I doubt that exists. YOu don't have it.

I gave you one example of one that was just a couple days. That makes
your "ALL" wrong right from the start.