Ann Coulter and the Retarded Right

[hammegk]

You can say, "Democrats want to eat babies"*


*Only two people Bob Thomas and Tom Roberts who claimed to be Democrats said they want to eat babies.

I wasn't aware of the new plank. I realized they don't mind to killing them before they are born.

Has anyone in the last few years lost a lawsuit in a political setting, Hammegk?

You KNOW your question is illicit.

Yeah, trial lawyers = politicians =liars so there's not much action on the lawsuit front in this regard.


I know we disagree that my question is illicit. What else is new?

 

[Zero]

See, this is another thing...some people take Ann Coulter seriously. Most of you here seem to think she is a bit of a joke. The comparison to Moore is pretty apt, in its way, in that even though their styles are different, they are both pretty cavalier about little things like reality.

Tell you guys what; if you guys on the right-wing can get Coulter to shut up, I'll do what I can about Moore...deal?

 

[Zero]

If I may ask, if she annoys you so, why do you read her? I can honestly say I've never read a word she has written - I've only seen her on a handful of TV appearances.

Every now and again someone quotes her or links to her site...and then I remember why I hate her all over again!!

 

[rikzilla]

Let's see. In her latest column she made slight of Max Cleeland's service record in Vietnam. She then lied about him dropping a grenade on himself.

Yeah, wonderful lady that Coulter gal. I wonder how conservatives can stomach that latest column. It went above and beyond her usual.

Lurker

A month before his Vietnam tour was up in 1968, Cleland stooped to pick up a grenade he thought had fallen off his belt as he jumped from a helicopter. It detonated, and he was left with one arm and no legs. Cleland spent a year in hospitals recovering, at times finding solace in alcohol. He was honored with the Bronze and Silver Stars.

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Sounds like she got it right Lurker. The guy mishandled dangerous ordinance, then got honored for it. Amazing!

One of my DI's at Ft. Gordon (who taught on the grenade range) told lots of stories of dumb grunts dropping live grenades. He never said anything about them being decorated for it though. I guess when you do something tragically dumb in a war zone you get to be a hero instead of a dumb-a$$.

-z

 

[DaChew]

Both sides have clowns that will say ANYTHING to cause the other side grief. Used to be James Carville on the left. Anyone remember Morton Downy Jr.? Now we have Coulter and Franken and Moore. The DNC chairman Terry McCauliff does the same sort of thing from time to time. The reason they're out there is because that sort of aggressive political body checking resonates with some people. I read Coulter for the same reason that someone on the left reads Franken: they're funny.

I'll start worrying about it when one of them is asked to help with policy decisions.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

I don't know what else Anne Coulter may or may not have said but anyone who proposes that we forcibly convert people in another country to Christianity (or any religion for that matter) and who proposes that liberals (i.e.people whose political views are different than hers) ought to be executed has lost all credibility in my book.

I am no fan of Micheal Moore or Al Franken either but I have never heard of anything remotely as bad as those two things from either of those two.

 

[jj]

well, I hadn't read her spew, or heard it, until some sunday morning when I turned on the TV and saw this smiling blond face saying things like "John Kerry? You mean that gigilo? Ha ha ha ha hahahahaha! You know he just lives off his women, don't you?" when the name came up.

At that point, it was clear that the person is a psychopathic liar of the worst sort.

She calls Kerry a gigilo, while she uses her feminity and looks to try to sway peoples' political opinions to the totalitarian right, and take away the rights of those who reject her fascist opinions. Um, what does that make her?

Never mind, we already know, except that term is usually used for, oh, never mind, no need to bring up abductors muscles.

 

[Grammatron]

See, this is another thing...some people take Ann Coulter seriously. Most of you here seem to think she is a bit of a joke. The comparison to Moore is pretty apt, in its way, in that even though their styles are different, they are both pretty cavalier about little things like reality.

Tell you guys what; if you guys on the right-wing can get Coulter to shut up, I'll do what I can about Moore...deal?

The best way to deal with them, IMO is to ignore them. They seem to feed on attention they get when they spew some crap out; if you ignore them they will just fade away into obscurity.

 

[ktesibios]

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Sounds like she got it right Lurker. The guy mishandled dangerous ordinance, then got honored for it. Amazing!

One of my DI's at Ft. Gordon (who taught on the grenade range) told lots of stories of dumb grunts dropping live grenades. He never said anything about them being decorated for it though. I guess when you do something tragically dumb in a war zone you get to be a hero instead of a dumb-a$$.

-z

Wrong. Cleland's Silver star citation reads:

"Captain Cleland distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous action on 4 April 1968 … during an enemy attack near Khe Sanh.

“When the battalion command post came under a heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack, Captain Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions.

“Continuing to expose himself, Captain Cleland organized his men into a work party to repair the battalion communications equipment, which had been damaged by enemy fire.

“His gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit and the United States Army."


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That doesn't seem to have a damned thing to do with a grenade accident.

Your standards of fact-checking are no better than Coulter's.

While we're on the subject of Stupidity in Uniform, Manfred von Richthofen was shot down and killed because he pursued a plane he had ben unable to shoot down deep into enemy territory, alone and exposed to ground fire- a stupid act which he had explicitly warned against in his writings on air tactics.

I guess that negates whatever courage and dedication he had demonstrated previously, eh?

 

[crackmonkey]

He didn't drop ordnance on himself, but he picked up a grenade that someone else dropped. He has been honored for it repeatedly, and still is by the Dems. How many times have we been reminded that he 'lost his limbs on the battlefield of Viet Nam'. Of course, he lost his limbs in a rather dumb accident, but we rarely hear that part.
This accident certainly doesn;t negate his previous actions on the battlefield for which he was awarded a silver star.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

There is no comparison between Ann Coulter and Al Franken. Ann Coulter spews invective hate (kinda redundant), Franken on the other hand writes "laugh out loud" satire.

I've read about half of "Slander" (by Coulter), but it was no fun. I kept hoping for some witty insightful view points, but kept getting sh!tty inciteful viewpoints.

Franken's latest book was a hoot. I hated finishing it. (I wanted more)

If Coulter is writing humor, I just don't get it.

Charlie (Franken does proclaim his hate of the right very vehemently though, but it's funny in context) Monoxide

 

[Zero]

Well, let's stop and think for a second, and stop reacting like Coulter would, ok? If he honestly thought it was his grenade, the pin would still have been in it, right? So that really doesn't make him a dumba$$, although it wasn't the smartest move ever, either. If he hadn't picked it up, he would have just lost both legs, and not the hand.
Can we get back to the Coulter-bashing now?

 

[headscratcher4]

Sure, we can talk about the stupid accident whereby this guy lost his limb...but what I want to know is why no one talks about the horrible accident where Anne Coulter was permanently brain damaged. God help the woman! Fortunately, we live in an age of medical miracles and there might someday be a cure. On the other hand, if all else fails, there is always lobotomy (unless she's already had that proceedure...).

 

[Zero]

There is no comparison between Ann Coulter and Al Franken. Ann Coulter spews invective hate (kinda redundant), Franken on the other hand writes "laugh out loud" satire.

I've read about half of "Slander" (by Coulter), but it was no fun. I kept hoping for some witty insightful view points, but kept getting sh!tty inciteful viewpoints.

Franken's latest book was a hoot. I hated finishing it. (I wanted more)

If Coulter is writing humor, I just don't get it.

Charlie (Franken does proclaim his hate of the right very vehemently though, but it's funny in context) Monoxide

Franken, to my knowledge, has never wished for the destruction of conservative media outlets in a terrorist attack. Ann Coulter, on the other hand...

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

Are Franken and Coulter really just the same?

 

[crackmonkey]

The woman's a walking nighmare, no question. I don't mean to sound as if I endorse her writing; I wish she wouldn't support my party, if you know what I mean. I can't stand the bitch.

I merely don't see the distinction between what she does and what Franken does. Her tone is more cutting than his, and her delivery is less humorous. They both exist only to sneer at and mock the opposition. Strawman construction and demolition is their bread and butter.

 

[Ignatius]

I don't think the Coulter and Franken comparison is fair. The comparison of Coulter and Moore is more fair in that those two don't seem to care at all about facts, they just want to push their own agendas. I don't think you can find anybody on the left with the same amount of prestige as Coulter that shows as much malice, though.

I never see Moore or Franken invited to join serious discussion panels, but I have seen Coulter on them many times on CSPAN and CNN.

 

[pgwenthold]

She calls Kerry a gigilo, while she uses her feminity and looks to try to sway peoples' political opinions

Wait a minute.

Since when does she have the "looks" to sway anyone's opinion to anything outside of "gross"?

I'd say she's a dog, but I have too much respect for the intelligence of dogs.

 

[Clancie]

I agree about Coulter, but you know what really bothers me a lot, Zero?

It's this....Why does the Right have all these over-the-top spokespeople that are everywhere in the media and so accepted (Coulter, Limbaugh, most hosts of politically oriented talk radio, O'Reilly, Hume...on and on...)

Where are the comparably influential critics/spokespeople on the left (Gore Vidal, for example, would be considered a "left" equivalent of Coulter)? Maybe I'm overlooking all of them, but Franken's really just a comedian and Michael Moore is just a liberal filmmaker. They really aren't very vocal or visible, either).

Thank God for "The Daily Show", but, then again, they mock everyone, right -and- left.

So, seriously...where are OUR vocal liberal firebrands, OUR spokespeople stirring thing up with their blunt criticisms of the conservatives and their views and policies?

(And namby-pamby...moderate...middle of the road... "kinda liberalism"... doesn't count! )

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Franken, to my knowledge, has never wished for the destruction of conservative media outlets in a terrorist attack. Ann Coulter, on the other hand...
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"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
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Are Franken and Coulter really just the same?

When it comes to getting paid, by getting a rise out of someone?

Yes...

Look who doesn't have anything better to do today...

Coulter is still in business because people get their panties all in a wad over what she says... She reminds me of a small child who has found she can make her playmates gasp and giggle by saying " doo doo " and " fart "...

I suspect her target audience is not the Retarded Right, and not the group that keeps her in business...

 

[Zero]

The woman's a walking nighmare, no question. I don't mean to sound as if I endorse her writing; I wish she wouldn't support my party, if you know what I mean. I can't stand the bitch.

I merely don't see the distinction between what she does and what Franken does. Her tone is more cutting than his, and her delivery is less humorous. They both exist only to sneer at and mock the opposition. Strawman construction and demolition is their bread and butter.

Well, other than not advocating murder, Franken at least attempts to get his facts straight. Coulter makes things up, and then lists endnotes that don't back up the lies she's created, in order to pretend to be honest. When Franken creates a strawman, he labels it as such.