On page 7 of the rail book it shows slip to the rear of the axle.
How can a belt do that? The 'locked' region cannot drive the wheel forward of itself, even if the were the way the wheel were driven.
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On page 7 of the rail book it shows slip to the rear of the axle.
How can a belt do that? The 'locked' region cannot drive the wheel forward of itself, even if the were the way the wheel were driven.
I think if you can't see that, you are disqualified from comment,
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Banging the meth drum again Cored.
(1) Something I don't understand
(2) Not within my experience
(3) What is outside my experience?
(4) Drugs.
(5) Go with that.
Better read your quotes more carefully, humb. And get some sleep!
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Once again Humber, You can repeat that delusion as many times as you want. It's still a delusion.
No, not Mender- eye sight going?
Yes, I know why it reaches one- because any unpowered (and a hot air balloon IS unpowered laterally) object in the air accelerates to the speed of the wind.
And, OH yes! It's Monday! That's three weekends you've had to produce your cart video, Humber! You said you would (you've said a lot of things) so where is it?
The post is quite clear. You have no answer to it.
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100 PAGES!! Is this a record or what!
Where humber is RIGHT
Now I suppose we will need another 100 pages to clean up the mess
Where humber is RIGHT
- "You need constant force and energy to maintain riverspeed." #2
- Zen: "When there is no wind, the belt has no meaning." #1089
- A rare moment of doubt: "The problem of the orange bothers me. When I move it either with the belt, or against the belt, it seems to gain KE w.r.t. the belt and ground by equal amounts." #1105
- Struggling to understand: "The cart's frame is tenuous, because it would seem that it is both in the belt and windspeed frames." #1214
- Assertion = Evidence: "Windspeed is the same "frame" as being still on the ground in still air. This too I have claimed. This is evidence." #2738
- "The boat will reach a finite speed, lower than the water. This speed is the solution to the simultaneous equations of the forces driving the boat, and that of drag. The air will reduce that speed, but even in a vacuum, waterspeed will not be reached." #136
- "Motion relative to the supermarket belt is also relative to the ground. Both directions yield the same KE, if viewed from belt or ground." #3053
- "The force is approximately linearly proportional to the relative velocity of chute and wind." #2951
#3259[post= 4400937]#3263[/post]
[*] "For a such harmonic motion dv/dt is greatest at zero crossing." #3081
[*] "The KE of two bodies may remain the same (relative KE = 0) but gain 1000 fold wrt another." #?
[*] "A treadmill belt can't be a "frame of reference." #18
[*] "Objects that have the same "velocity" have the same "frame". #26
[*] "The KE goes with the moving body." #77
[*] "A balloon can raise its altitude, and gain potential energy. When descending, that energy is converted to lateral velocity. " #147 #447
[*] "If in free-fall inside an aircraft, the simple act of lifting your arm and measuring the force, will tell you that you are in a gravitational field." #3255
[*] "If you are stationary in a gravitational field, then you will do work against that field should you raise your arm. That does not change if you jump from a table, or fall in an enclosed elevator." #3327
[*] "Free-fall is not zero-g." #3393 #3396
[*] "Two standard mass-sensing accelerometers, one on each end of a bar. Spun in zero-g, they would show a constant output as a result of that acceleration. In free-fall towards the Earth, each acclerometer will either be moving with gravity or against it, with each revolution. Easily detected." #3361
[*] "Forward motion by a driven wheel is not possible unless the contact patch with the road is to the rear of the axle. This is irrefutably so.
" #3441 #3459
[*] "It [the cart on a treadmill] is capable only of one speed. The wheels can only go slower thant the belt, but not fqaster, so they must be slipping." #3767
[*] "If you park your car on an incline, but facing up it, where do you think the contact patch is? Yes, behind the axle." #3071
Now I suppose we will need another 100 pages to clean up the mess
Think of the slip region as a return to state.
No, my graph contradicts that, but we all know about some people's reaction to that!
"This is your Captain whining..."
It wasn't me who asked the question, slumberer.
As I said in anticipation, Mender, " no matter how you interpret it" you cannot describe how the treadmill belt induces those force in a wheel, so as to drive it forward.
Well you see, the graphs and calculations show that behavior cannot happen on the treadmill. Earlier, you denied my skater argument. My post is the rebuttal of that.
The usual air biscuit. Can you support anything you say?
Very slowly now Humber;
The power input to the cart is ....
The power output by the cart is...
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Your graph tells us about a balloon dragging a sled Humber... Congratulations!!
I'll take this as meaning, having undertaken to do something, you've found out it's impossible and now just want it to go away.
"Negative drag" and "Gas Cavitation" spring to mind at once.
You are wrong about these things Humber, and your instant recourse to insults when they are mentioned is a clear indication that you know it, but won't admit it.
BTW, a graph showing a balloon accelerating till it's velocity is the same as the wind shows it doesn't?
strange place that Humberverse....
Cling wrap.
You have not manged to answer what is already posted. However, I have been talking to Pirate Pete. He is very angry with Walmart.
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Which humber is this? Didn't you get the memo?!
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