Vision From Feeling

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godofpie said:
Unless I have missed something, I don't know anything about us getting together this Sunday. I have emailed the group to see who is available when, and have received a few responses, but I have made no such arrangements. Am missing something Anita? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Perhaps you're missing the fact that Anita is a habitual liar? :)

VisionFromFeeling said:
Oh, you guys... just stay with the truth of things. Don't misinterpret all the time. :faint:
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The truth of things is this: You're either a scammer, a compulsive liar, or delusional. And you, Anita, are the only one who doesn't seem willing or able to acknowledge that.
 
Jonquill said:
I hope being tired won't make Anita perform badly on her Perceptions Study on the 8th.
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desertgal said:
She's laying out what will be an excuse for the delay in advance. She does that a lot.
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If I can stay up all night studying for tests and then get up and go have a test and get an A in physics and calculus and chemistry and electrical engineering then I can stay up all night studying for tests and then get up and go have a paranormal study and do my best then as well. :p
 
I just saw a picture of Shirley MaClaine. Using my Vision From Vision™ I detected several things:

* She has a shoulder. Wait...No, two shoulders.
* There are several openings on her face that lead inside her body.
* She has small holes in each ear.
* It was blurry, but I thought I saw a frog sitting on her head, but it turns out there wasn't one. This was okay because I really wasn't sure about it.

This, of course, was not a test of my Vision From Vision™ - it was merely a study to see what I could see. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Sorry, Anita, but you can insist all you want that it is a study, but that won't change the fact that it is also a test. You have already conducted a "study" of 100 people and with Apparent Accuracy™ have been 100% correct. That test is what got you here in the first place.

Everyone here insists that your data is easily explained by way of a number well known mechanisms. We conclude that you have not demonstrated even in the slightest way any type of special ability. There exists no ability to study.

If under more reliable data gathering conditions you fail to demonstrate your ability (meaning no or at least very few false positives), you must drop this charade. Furthermore, you must also demonstrate some accuracy - not detecting anything in anyone is also an indicator of failure.

No amount of spinning will change this. Your "study" will be the first evidence that any ability exists. To date you have provided none. Well, I take that back. You have demonstrated that you cannot detect chemicals or read photos.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
GeeMack:
Skeptics' impatience? Misinterpretations? :confused:

godofpie:
:( I thought we were having a study this weekend. You were the one who suggested this Sunday, as long as I'd provide the material and have your approval. :confused:
*Posted since it is already available on the Skeptics Group's website.
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"Neither my dad or myself can participate the 7th or the 14th. We could do
it on Sunday the 8th or the 15th."

How does the above quote from my email, sent to the entire group, (bolded word intentional) lead you to the conclusion that we had decided to conduct your study this Sunday?

This link will take you to our groups mail archive. Does anyone else, besides Anita, feel like I had agreed to a meeting this Sunday the 8th?
http://www.meetup.com/f-a-c-t/messages/archive/
 
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If it bothers you that there is not a specific point at which the claim would be falsified you may then assume that falsification of a non-ability is not among the objectives of this study. I really would value your participations. This study would be tremendously helpful in forming a stronger claim and coming closer to a real test and the real falsification of a non-ability.
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There are not too few multiple negatives for me not to misunderstand that.

Anita, we have told you this from the beginning: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Nobody needs to falsify your ability because as of this moment, your ability is unproven. You have the burden of proof.

You do not deserve a strict confirmation test because you haven't even demonstrated that there's a snowball's chance in hell you might pass. You must present enough data to judge whether it is even worth taking the time to conduct a real test.

Whether you like it or not, your study will serve that purpose. If it is poorly designed (meaning you're not taking the advice of the people who know better), you will not get a real test no matter what the results. If you design it well and fail to demonstrate any abilities, you will not get a test. Only in the case of designing it well and demonstrating what looks like an ability will you get to take a real test.

That, my little babushka, is the way it is. No amount of words on your part will change that, but I'm sure you'll try.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
That is when I felt the adam's apple, and the left shoulder.
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Oh, for the love of Swedish meatballs - you didn't "feel" anything. You realized Wayne had an Adam's apple and a shoulder at precisely the same moment you realized he was a male human being. Stop lying and pretending that it had anything to do with Vibrational InformationTM or your fictitious "ability". :rolleyes:

His shoulder wasn't tired, and his Adam's apple did not have discomfort. You are wrong.

VisionFromFeeling said:
Oh, you guys... just stay with the truth of things. Don't misinterpret all the time. :faint:
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Translation: "It's not ME. It's YOU."

Jeez, Anita, you should put it as your signature, and save yourself having to type your "wall o'text" posts. :rolleyes:

His shoulder wasn't tired, and his Adam's apple did not have discomfort. You are still wrong.

UncaYimmy said:
I predict Desertgal will point out another case of "It's not me. It's YOU."
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Bless your little Yoda heart, brilliant and psychic, you must be. :D

(Wait....just checking...nope, she's still wrong.)
 
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VisionFromFeeling said:
Diogenes:
No, I detect plenty of things. But health problems and discomforts are the easiest to detect.
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If they are the easiest, why didn't you detect them, instead of the shoulder and the adams apple ?


Anyway, guess I'll have to dig up a few quotes where you claimed you only got readings from things that were out of wack..

You should really just stay quiet when you are caught in a lie ..
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
If I can stay up all night studying for tests and then get up and go have a test and get an A in physics and calculus and chemistry and electrical engineering then I can stay up all night studying for tests and then get up and go have a paranormal study and do my best then as well. :p
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Yes, yes, Anita. We know. 4.0 grade average, yadda, yadda. Whatever you say. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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At the meeting Anita wants two skeptics to also take the Study, plus two or three to handle the forms, plus volunteers to be looked at say ten or so?
But the next meeting according to the Skeptics calander is the 26th, not the 8th.
 
What ever. No study then. I'll find some other skeptics group if I have to. Just don't tell me I'm avoiding to have the study. I've done all I can. Now, I've got to focus on my Upcoming ExamsTM.

godofpie said:
How does the above quote from my email, sent to the entire group, (bolded word intentional) lead you to the conclusion that we had decided to conduct your study this Sunday?
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How does "I conclude that I find no health problems. But I did sense his adam's apple." lead you to the conclusion that I detected a thyroid problem?
 
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godofpie said:
"Neither my dad or myself can participate the 7th or the 14th. We could do
it on Sunday the 8th or the 15th."

How does the above quote from my email, sent to the entire group, (bolded word intentional) lead you to the conclusion that we had decided to conduct your study this Sunday?

This link will take you to our groups mail archive. Does anyone else, besides Anita, feel like I had agreed to a meeting this Sunday the 8th?
http://www.meetup.com/f-a-c-t/messages/archive/
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Welcome to the frustration that many of us here have felt. Perhaps now you can understand why some of us get a bit snippy at times. There was no way that a reasonable person could construe that exchange as saying that a meeting is taking place, especially since you also wrote, "For me to participate, you need to have your study, in writing, at least 72 hours before the study is to take place so that myself and the other FACT members/participants can decide if we still want to participate."

It's like when Anita said that park officials told her she couldn't hold her study when they said in effect, "if you reserve a shelter or a room, you can do your study there."

Or how about when she said "all the arrangements are in place" when she had not set a time, place or duration, much less had a firm commitment from the six skeptics who had expressed interest. Hell, they hadn't even responded to her about whether the protocol or health form were acceptable.

Of course, YOU guys are the bad guys. Did you like how she said, "And could we *please* go ahead and have a study of my paranormal claim this time?" Now once again she's all ready, but you guys are not. Just like the IIG couldn't figure out how to test her.
 
She hadn't set a place for her study in the park but she assured us there was plenty of seating there.

Maybe Anita is practising to be a comedian? :D
 
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