Merged 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[Slayhamlet]

Don't hesitate to post your source. There are several reports, some putting the flights as early as the 14th.

Not for the Bin Laden family. It is definitively known that their chartered flight departed on the 19th, six days after national airspace was reopened. The flight manifest was released back in 2004. Here's a Washington Post article about it.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34405

Worldnutdaily. Great source.

 

[Seymour Butz]

Just got off the blower with the manager of the Un-Urban cafe in Santa Moncia and and the CIT will not be invited back.
As she put it, "no nut jobs allowed"
The CIT kids bragged about their appearance.
http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=486
Sorry CIT not even nutty Santa Monica wants you in their town!

Maybe it's just the Moe Howard haircut that they don't appreciate.

I mean jeeze, how weird can LA be to think that's fashionable?

Anywhere else, and the GIRLS would be beating him up for looking so "fay".

 

[Mr.Herbert]

I was just on that thread and read that Ranke is taking credit for getting me banned at ATS! That's a lie! I was banned for a statement I made to a truther about....well... spending too much time in his house, with his dog, and a jar of peanut butter.

 

[jhunter1163]

I was just on that thread and read that Ranke is taking credit for getting me banned at ATS! That's a lie! I was banned for a statement I made to a truther about....well... spending too much time in his house, with his dog, and a jar of peanut butter.

I would have banned you too.

 

[beachnut]

I was just on that thread and read that Ranke is taking credit for getting me banned at ATS! That's a lie! I was banned for a statement I made to a truther about....well... spending too much time in his house, with his dog, and a jar of peanut butter.

How can you get banned at wooville with ads? It is strange over at ATS, they actually want lots of woo to keep up the traffic. That being said, it is great to put together a rational post and show people like CIT and p4t are pushers of delusions at ATS.

 

[Baylor]

I was just on that thread and read that Ranke is taking credit for getting me banned at ATS! That's a lie! I was banned for a statement I made to a truther about....well... spending too much time in his house, with his dog, and a jar of peanut butter.

He's bragging about his status on an Internet forum?!?! Move over Chuck Norris, America has a new favorite alph-male.

 

[Tandem Thinking]

Okay, I have a question that has recently got me thinking.

Often times, truthers claim that it is impossible for the plane to have sliced either the perimeter columns or the core columns.

My question is; did the plane actually slice the columns in half, or did it simply impact the columns with such force that the bolts holding the columns together simply ripped apart? And is there some place in any of the investigative reports that supports, shows, and/or demonstrates that occurence?

 

[beachnut]

Okay, I have a question that has recently got me thinking.

Often times, truthers claim that it is impossible for the plane to have sliced either the perimeter columns or the core columns.

My question is; did the plane actually slice the columns in half, or did it simply impact the columns with such force that the bolts holding the columns together simply ripped apart? And is there some place in any of the investigative reports that supports, shows, and/or demonstrates that occurence?

Both.

The impacts at the WTC were equal in kinetic energy to 1300 and 2093 pounds of TNT.

You have seen bbs cut into steel cans? Water and sand can cut metal, why can't a plane going 590 mph?

One picture proves them wrong!

Both.

 

[dtugg]

Often times, truthers claim that it is impossible for the plane to have sliced either the perimeter columns or the core columns.

Those twoofers must be no planers and therefore actually insane. Don't pay them any attention.

 

[Tandem Thinking]

Thanks a lot beachnut, I knew that there was absolutely enough energy to break the bolts holding the beams together, but I wasn't sure if the plane would actually slice the beams.

Those twoofers must be no planers and therefore actually insane. Don't pay them any attention.

I try not to, but I'm at the stage in my "debunking career" where I see someone make an absolutely retarded statement and I have to go in there and shut them down. You're right though, it really is pointless to try to convince someone who has gone that far down the rabbit hole.

 

[beachnut]

Thanks a lot beachnut, I knew that there was absolutely enough energy to break the bolts holding the beams together, but I wasn't sure if the plane would actually slice the beams.



I try not to, but I'm at the stage in my "debunking career" where I see someone make an absolutely retarded statement and I have to go in there and shut them down. You're right though, it really is pointless to try to convince someone who has gone that far down the rabbit hole.

The reference at the top of the 911 sub-forum can help if you want to get in deeper. As you have found the 911Truth movement is not well known and it may be best to balance the time you spend defending knowledge vs. the fringe of 911Truth cult members so you don't alienate your other interests or friends.

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After learning a little you can explain this better than I.

 

[dtugg]

You're right though, it really is pointless to try to convince someone who has gone that far down the rabbit hole.

Hell, I've told a couple no planers (Ace Baker and some other guy on another board that I used to frequent), about how I saw the second plane hit. Obviously, I am a liar.

 

[bonavada]

Watched an interesting programme the other night ("The Towers and the Pentagon", 2008 produced by CBS Eyetoo/Discovery Channel)

The last quarter was devoted to WTC 7 and the reasons it collapsed. They show a few different video clips of the collapse, one of which I cannot recall seeing before.

It was filmed through a window, at elevation, I think from the southern side of the WTC 7 and clearly shows significant damage incurred there when the North Tower collapsed onto it.

Here's a screenshot of that, anyone else seen this clip before?

BV

 

[Bell]

bonavada, sorry, but that is the north side of WTC7. What you think is damage is the reflection of buildings opposite.

 

[bonavada]

bonavada, sorry, but that is the north side of WTC7. What you think is damage is the reflection of buildings opposite.

Ooops my mistake <blush> The clip is only a few seconds long and I mistook the shadows/reflections for damage. Still, is a view I hadn't seen before.

BTW the programme is well worth watching if you can.

BV

 

[T.A.M.]

Bird versus Plane wing
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/1512181601_fdbdea3358.jpg?v=0

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

bump

TAM

 

[Athyrio]

Meanwhile, back at the "raunch"...

C. Rats! I think they're on to me again. What should I do?

A. Yeah I know, it's no fun not being on there. Nobody else talks to us.

C. Think I should activate another sleeper?

A. Yeah, go for it. We got plenty of them left.

 

[T.A.M.]

I wonder if there is a MAXIMUM limit on the # of names you can put on your ignore list?

marybeth was the latest, and the list is still holding.

TAM

 

[Grizzly Bear]

I wonder if there is a MAXIMUM limit on the # of names you can put on your ignore list?

marybeth was the latest, and the list is still holding.

TAM

I only ever put one person on my ignore list... and it had nothing to do with 911 conspiracues... Unfortunately I seem to have some weird immunity to the utter stupid and aggravation from reading it...

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