Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3

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Look into my eyes, MK. Is that really you?


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Man, you can really see the pain in Patty's eye as she realizes she is about to become a part of the bigfoot slaughter that took place at Bluff Creek.

So sad.....
 
I think this guy may know were the body/hide from this slaughter is kept. I wish they hadn't scared him away.

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=23693&st=0

Unfortunately the thread lost momentum shortly after this post which describes bigfoot science to a tee.

"Really though, I did know a guy that had a cousin, or nephew (I can't remember), that worked with a guy that was hunting one time. Well, he ran into a guy that had a friend with an old cabin and I guess the guy that originally built the cabin died in a fire, but before he did he read an article about an old timer in the woods that heard a howl late at night that he couldn't really describe but someone that heard it too had dinner with a friend one night that had seen a shadow in the night. He said it must have been bigfoot making love with one of his milk cows. Now if that isn't a good story I don't think anyone is going to be impressed with a story about a costume in a glass case in a house that someone can never go back to and can get no more information on the costume, the owner of the house, the house, the glass case, or anything else." Ace


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rockinkt said:
Glad to hear that...

Care to answer the questions in my post?

I'll add to them these two questions:

What is your training/experience in conducting investigative interviews?

What training/experience qualifies you to ascertain something is a bullet strike on film?
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If you are MK, I second that emotion
 
bobbieshort said:
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You know Rockinkt, you criticize a man for his opinions and hide behind an avatar name. It’s easy to attack man ad hominem (& hide behind an avatar) than it is to look at his work and decide for yourself what the images show.

Anyman is entitled to his opinion, at least Davis is participating in research; I don’t know what qualifies you.

“Massacre at Bluff Creek”……so what?
Is that pronouncement any worse than the MDF nonsense, the asscast overkill and that ridiculous midtarsal break pronouncement. Come on….
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I did look at the pictures and decided that there was nothing at all to indicate any of the nonsense being spouted had any merit whatsoever.

Since I am not the one trying to profit from a preposterous story - I see no need to identify myself. Besides - what does my identity have to do with the fact that the proposition put forward by Davis has no basis in reality?

As far as my general qualifications - LT pretty well summed it up.
Specific to this debate however:
I am a certified instructor of Kinesic Interviewing/Interrogation methods. I am also qualified in Statement Analysis and received specialized training to qualify me as an Criminal Intelligence Analyst.
I am a certified Firearms Instructor and qualified as expert in both rifle and pistol.

Funny that you should ask about what I have contributed to sasquatch/Bigfoot research. Just the other day I looked up in the sky and saw a gigantic squatch being shot at by a cowboy and a fake Indian.
Everybody else said it was just cloud formations - but I know different...
 
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William Parcher wrote:
I'm not so sure it's either one of those. (mid-tarsel break, or toes bending.)
Here is a sequence of frames from an animated gif. We see the thing that is proposed to be splaying or upwards bending toes in #3 - but then in #4 we see that the same thing is there, but it is ghostly.
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I put frames 4 and 5 together into an animated-gif....


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One reason why the toes might appear lighter in shade than the rest of the foot could be that there is some space between the toes, allowing the whitish ground color to mix and blend-in with the dark toes....thereby creating a lighter shade of black...or gray.


You can also see, very clearly, Patty's calf muscle bulging when her foot moves down fully onto the ground.
That's a pretty neat trick for a supposedly pre-formed, and large, hunk of padding on the back of the leg...

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IMO, the foot and toes should be already planted flat on the sand in #4, and maybe already even in #3.
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Regardless of what anybody thinks, concerning exactly when Patty's foot "should be" flat on the ground....the image on the film is what determines when that actually occured.



I don't really know what is going on here, but it doesn't seem right that that big thing in front is actually the toes (or entire ball) bending upwards.
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I don't know whether what's moving is just the toes, or includes more of the foot......but it doesn't really matter exactly what is moving, because it's clear that something is moving at the front of the foot.
And, again, if that movement (along with the other feature of the foot I had mentioned) can't be replicated with a fake foot, then it's not a fake foot.....period.
 
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Sweaty can you post the gif that shows the rear of the calf muscle buldging? Now with all this new speculation of Patty being shot at maybe they were getting these muscle movements by shooting them with a BB gun lol! Any human feet in action showing toe movement like Patty?
 
Yep, I`m officially blind when it comes to Patty.

Can`t see bullet impacts, can`t see moving toes, can`t see bulging muscles...

Must be the skeptical effect...
 
Correa Neto said:
Yep, I`m officially blind when it comes to Patty.

Can`t see bullet impacts, can`t see moving toes, can`t see bulging muscles...

Must be the skeptical effect...
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For once I can actually see what they're talking about.

If you look at 4 and 5 in the above gif you can see Patty's leg rock forward. The angle of her shin changes by several degrees. Looks to me enough to account for the front of her foot being off the ground and then rocking down as she shifts her weight. To me, not only do the toes not do anything interesting, it's like there's no foot articulation at all.

If you look at Patty's calf it may just be a play of light and shadow, or the back of her leg might pinch in, in exactly the way muscles don't. Or it might just be another fold in the hip waders like the anomalous thigh bulge seen in other frames.
 
As I have pointed out before; those lobes of the calf muscle should be bisected by a line congruent with the Achilles.
They are not.
The line runs off to the right side of the ankle..
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SweatyYeti said:
I put frames 4 and 5 together into an animated-gif....


One reason why the toes might appear lighter in shade than the rest of the foot could be that there is some space between the toes, allowing the whitish ground color to mix and blend-in with the dark toes....thereby creating a lighter shade of black...or gray.
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Do a gif with frames 2,3,4 & 5.
 
Diogenes said:
As I have pointed out before; those lobes of the calf muscle should be bisected by a line congruent with the Achilles.
They are not.
The line runs off to the right side of the ankle..
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That wasn't the calf frame I was referring to. But thank's Sweaty lol!
 
if that movement (along with the other feature of the foot I had mentioned) can't be replicated with a fake foot, then it's not a fake foot.....period.
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If it can't be replicated with a bigfoot foot, then it's not a bigfoot foot.

Heck, forget about replicating it with a bigfoot foot, I'll be happy with a bigfoot foot period. Just one. Shouldn't be too hard to produce. Surely there's at least one Native American who knows the location of a body from just one of these gentle guardians of the forest. Heck, there's a whole family of them buried at Bluff Creek.
 
xblade said:
If it can't be replicated with a bigfoot foot, then it's not a bigfoot foot.

Heck, forget about replicating it with a bigfoot foot, I'll be happy with a bigfoot foot period. Just one. Shouldn't be too hard to produce. Surely there's at least one Native American who knows the location of a body from just one of these gentle guardians of the forest. Heck, there's a whole family of them buried at Bluff Creek.
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Woha slow down Hoss! Gene splicing will get you your Bigfoot a lot quicker!
 
Crowlogic said:
Woha slow down Hoss! Gene splicing will get you your Bigfoot a lot quicker!
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You're right about that. Casting a spell to summon a bigfoot from the underworld will get one quicker than searching Bluff Creek, or anywhere else on the planet for that matter.
 
Hitch said:
For once I can actually see what they're talking about.

If you look at 4 and 5 in the above gif you can see Patty's leg rock forward. The angle of her shin changes by several degrees. Looks to me enough to account for the front of her foot being off the ground and then rocking down as she shifts her weight. To me, not only do the toes not do anything interesting, it's like there's no foot articulation at all.

If you look at Patty's calf it may just be a play of light and shadow, or the back of her leg might pinch in, in exactly the way muscles don't. Or it might just be another fold in the hip waders like the anomalous thigh bulge seen in other frames.
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It might just be a jiggle of the leg of an unknown hominid
 
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