bruto
Penultimate Amazing
Your'e not going to be his friend. Nasty you!
Seriously, I don't think it's a matter of likelihood. It's a matter of "has anyone come up with good evidence?" A body or some bones would be good. Who knows, if there really are such critters out there, eventually one will be squashed by an avalanche or a falling tree or something, and maybe someone will find it before it gets eaten.
I think it would be very cool if someone finally comes up with a really convincing bit of evidence for any crypto hominid. I just have yet to see it. I think you'll find that there are many skeptics who do not discount the possibility, only the likelihood.
My own uneducated guess is that if it does come, it will come from someone who is not connected with the current bigfoot community, and that it will be an embarrassment to many of them, because a true bigfoot, or other hominid, will show up the fakes.
even though i admit bf has a possibility, i can see why areas like the himalayas and tibet could hold both the yeren and yeti.
a good suggestion:
I would be one of those in the camp that says that remains will be virtually impossible to find and no conclusion should be drawn from that.
Chimpanzees have lived in Africa for 7 million years and it is estimated that there are approximately 1 million living there at least up until that past several decades. If the averge chimp lives 40 years then that means 175 billion chimps have romped around the Africa continent.
The first fossilized chimp remains weren't discovered until 2004.
So, the complete lack of BF bones and remains is utterly meaningless to me.
interesting note above, its not like anyones going out looking for bf, unless u count the woos of the bfro
a good suggestion:
I would be one of those in the camp that says that remains will be virtually impossible to find and no conclusion should be drawn from that.
Chimpanzees have lived in Africa for 7 million years and it is estimated that there are approximately 1 million living there at least up until that past several decades. If the averge chimp lives 40 years then that means 175 billion chimps have romped around the Africa continent.
The first fossilized chimp remains weren't discovered until 2004.
So, the complete lack of BF bones and remains is utterly meaningless to me.
interesting note above, its not like anyones going out looking for bf, unless u count the woos of the bfro
Damien Evans
Up The Irons
As far as cryptids go I think these two are the most likely:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebu_Gogo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Pendek
Given the recent discoveries on Flores I wouldn't be too surprised if they were real.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebu_Gogo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Pendek
Given the recent discoveries on Flores I wouldn't be too surprised if they were real.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Don't let log fill your head with beans. The question you ask is a good one and completely valid. Log is pretty bitter. She thinks this place is evil and we're all devourers of souls. She's mostly upset because she has a hard time fitting in with others due to her ideas about Bigfoot extinction. Anyway, nevermind that.
Yeah, when it comes to Bigfoot, the evidence is very much in line with a social phenomenom.
The one hominid that I would not be totally shocked to find living would be Homo Floresiensis, commonly referred to as the hobbits. With a recent survival in a heavily forested region, roughly 12,000 years, it is not inconceivable to suppose a small relict population still existing well hidden on some Indonesian island. There are the tales of Ebu Gogo which may or may not be related and sightings and other claims of the well known Orang Pendek. At least a couple of the sightings were made by western scientists who had sustained visuals. Whether they truly did see living hobbits or some relative remains to be seen and while quite unlikely, it's not anywhere near as unlikely as giant bipedal non-human primates running all over North America. National Geographic has put enough stock in the idea to run a 2 year full time search effort.
If you are interested in the hobbits and the idea of possible existence now then I would suggest the following thread:
Homo Floresiensis and Non-Linear Evolution
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Neat. Nice timing.
thanks kit!
but people gotta understand, if its out there, its probably in the remote mountains, british columbia, or a remote part of canada. their are areas up there that are so remote you can go yrs without seeing sign of people,
besides, its not like anyone is looking, unless you count woos
but people gotta understand, if its out there, its probably in the remote mountains, british columbia, or a remote part of canada. their are areas up there that are so remote you can go yrs without seeing sign of people,
besides, its not like anyone is looking, unless you count woos
Crowlogic
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More people are out looking or at least on the lookout for Bigfoot than you might imagine.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Ah, but there's the problem, makaya. If we were getting limited but regular reports from say the Carmannah Valley or Gifford Pinchot National Forest, reports from rangers, loggers, hunters, etc that had consistent descriptions and not the big pile of garbage that footers pass around all over the place, you'd certainly start getting some wildlife officials and biologists interested.
Bigfootery shoots itself in the foot with the sincere sounding reports from all over the continent. Bigfooters don't seem to understand the remote fallacy. They tell us about areas of land untouched but this is not how Bigfoot is reported. Bigfoot is in my garbage, Bigfoot is stealing my beans, what the heck did Bigfoot do to my cat? That is standard fare.
A small population of shy primates living isolated in some valley is no big offence to common sense. That is never what Bigfoot was or is.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
That is another Bigfoot enthusiast promoted fallacy - we haven't really looked. We don't need to intentionally search for something to find it or have it find us. People have been living, working, researching, observing, tracking, hunting, etc in alleged Bigfoot territory with no reliable evidence of such a creature existing. We have elusive, large, very rare animals living in North America that we can still locate. Think of the ultra-rare white bears of the Queen Charlotte Islands as an example. There is no reconciliation we have to make with Bigfoot claims. Everything about it fits nicely with a social construct.
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
Tell me what process you go through to decide which to dismiss and which qualify as keepers. If you try, you will see yourself come to a very slippery slope.
well its that skeptics say "how do we miss an animal in 50 states". most likely, if they exist, they arent in 50 states, but a few large, remote areas of washington, oregon, canada etc. but i know no one is going to prove either way on a forum! lol
kitakaze
Resident DJ/NSA Supermole
1) We're talking about Bigfoot or yeti now?
2) Are you absolutely sure no one has shot and eaten a blue bear?
3) Skins and pelts are reliable evidence of blue bears.
4) Why no Bigfoot pelts?
5) I can show you an image of a known Tibetan blue bear:
http://www.ecotibet.org/gallery/photo/album/poster/slides/2 Tibetan Bear.html
http://www.ojizoo.jp/zukan/pic/0107016.jpg
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Damien Evans
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William Parcher
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It's not as blue as I hoped it would be.
I was hoping for something more flamboyant.
No, no, no. The bears are sad. They are perpetually sad.
Sideroxylon
Featherless biped
I was expecting blurrier photos.