How 9/11 was done

[SDC]

I will add that anyone who thinks that the pilots' unions would not have raised a ruckus is not, well, thinking rationally.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

It's all well and fine that you believe in 'your' theory (or rather Fox News, NIST, Chertoff's nephew's theory) but in real life references from Mum or yourselves don't count.

You have to accept that a substantial part of the (global) population has a different view on who carried out the 9/11 mass murder:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/17718

According to this survey there are 3 candidates:

1-Arabs (46%), 2-US inside job (15%), 3-Israel (7%)

And we're going to find out who really did it.

By substantial you mean that 1%. Sort like those substantial experts which amounts to about 10 people out of the 500 or so claimed which is about to the 10 million or so in the word. That substantial part right?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Sorry to harp on Zalewski, so to speak... Have you informed him, or anyone at all, that you are Hot on his Trail? Do you have any evidence of his nefarious deeds? Surely you have tried.

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triiiing

Hello, Pete here..

Hi pete, this is 9/11-investigator calling from Amsterdam.
There are some people claiming that you uploaded a New York flight path to flight11 & 175. Is that true?

Pete: No.

OK, thanks Pete. Have a nice day.

Click.

 

[SDC]

And we're going to find out who really did it.

Cut by me. Which "we"? Is that editorial or royal? Or some other multiplier.

The one thing that all can rest assured of is that you will announce that the Jews Did It. It's not hard to predict that part of your findings.

Can I get the million dollars now?

 

[dtugg]

It's all well and fine that you believe in 'your' theory (or rather Fox News, NIST, Chertoff's nephew's theory) but in real life references from Mum or yourselves don't count.

You have to accept that a substantial part of the (global) population has a different view on who carried out the 9/11 mass murder:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/17718

According to this survey there are 3 candidates:

1-Arabs (46%), 2-US inside job (15%), 3-Israel (7%)

And we're going to find out who really did it.

I, for one, wouldn't really give a damn if 100% of the world's population outside the United States thought that 9/11 was done by the USG or teh jooooos. They would still be wrong and have zero evidence. And they wouldn't be able to do anything about their falsely held beliefs.

I hope you guys do waste your whole lives trying to prove that 9/11 was an inside job/really done by teh joooos. The twoof movement is a great source of amusement to me and I would hate for that to go away. Of course, it will be impossible for you to prove your fantasy since the organization that actually carried out the attacks was identified over seven years ago and its leaders have since confessed.

Oh, and I see that you have abandoned arguing about the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center. Is this because you realized that your hero, Richard Gage is a stupid fraud who goes around dropping cardboard boxes to prove that the towers had "help" falling down? Do you still think that the towers were blown up using some sort of magical silent explosive?

 

[9/11-investigator]

its not an exclusively jewish name, nor is it a name of jewish origin, as indicated by the article i quoted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zalewski

Ahem, could you please let sink in that we agree and that I never implied anything else. There are Jewish persons named Zalewski. Whether Pete Zalewski is Jewish or not remains undecided on the basis of his name alone.

BTW: 'gentiles' are bribable you know, or black-mailable.

Are you not fascinated by the fact that this young guy handled 3 airliners that crashed?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

These phone calls were fake.

Impossible nonsense.

Again: I do not do this for fun, I have to do it. I believed the OCT until 2005. By then I morphed into an 'inside jobber', due to being convinced of WTC-controlled demolition. The Israeli angle stems from early 2008.

If one is convinced as I am that the towers were brought down by CD (as millions others are), combined with the 'Dancing Israelis' and the fact the westerners/Jews do not do suicide missions, one has to resort to remote control. So yes, I am looking for a possibility, because it had to be. I think that my motives are crystal clear.

On the contrary, your motive or motives is not to "investigate," as your nom de plume so presumptously suggests. I would hazard a guess as to what it is were the thread not moderated.

As to the Twin Towers being brought down by controlled demoltion: 100% wrong. So you might begin to ask yourself why you would "believe" something that is impossible.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

You have to accept that a substantial part of the (global) population has a different view on who carried out the 9/11 mass murder...

And a great majority of people believe that John F. Kennedy was assassinated as part of a conspiracy despite no evidence, coupled with an astounding amount of evidence as to his actual killer. Your point?

 

[Thunder]

I have never...ever..met a Jew named "Peter". It is a very Catholic name.

And, most Jews who have the Slavic "son of" last name..spell it "sky"...not "ski".

 

[Dr Adequate]

- to give the passengers a sense of safety.

Wouldn't that sense of safety be destroyed once the news got out that the pilots can't actually do anything?

How many jumbo pilots are there in the world? 'Cos that's the minimum number of people who are covering up this secret.

- pilots do not have null pointer exceptions (like the first Ariane-V had; is a rocket but you get the point).

While admiring my own patience... the hypothesis is that these planes flew into the towers regardless of what the regular pilots felt, wanted or were dead or alive.

So your point about the pilots mindlesly doing whatever the FMS tells them is not only wrong but irrelevant.

The idea is that somebody (Zalewski or somebody else) was able to send a new target course into the FMS.

And, as I have pointed out, this would be no use, because you would then need the pilot either to fly that course manually or to set it into the autopilot. Uploading a new flight plan does not in itself make the plane change direction in any way.

 

[Dr Adequate]

It's all well and fine that you believe in 'your' theory (or rather Fox News, NIST, Chertoff's nephew's theory) but in real life references from Mum or yourselves don't count.

This is why I have relied instead on documentary, eywitness, and forensic medical evidence instead.

You have to accept that a substantial part of the (global) population has a different view on who carried out the 9/11 mass murder:

And if they could produce any evidence for their views, it would be harder to dismiss them as cranks.

 

[Dr Adequate]

The unavoidable problem you still have here (aside from the fact that the FMS isn't capable of overriding pilot controls) is that the pilots have the ability to physically disconnect power from the entire flight management system and autopilot.

This is why in his fantasy there was nerve gas on board (no evidence for this, natch) which was somehow smuggled on board by Mossad operatives who then somehow managed to get off the planes (no evidence, of course).

 

[9/11-investigator]

I have never...ever..met a Jew named "Peter". It is a very Catholic name.

Wrong.

For starters, the original Peter was obviously a Jew.

Here a link to the very Jewish Schiff family: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff --> several Peters.

To top it of: http://www.jewfaq.org/jnames.htm
For obvious reasons, names like Christopher, Christine and Jesus are almost unheard of among Jews and Mary is unusual, but names like Peter and Paul that you would think of as very Christian are surprisingly common among Jews.

And, most Jews who have the Slavic "son of" last name..spell it "sky"...not "ski".

I already pointed to several instances of Jewish people called Zalewski. I could have added hundreds more.

 

[chillzero]

I'm taking this off moderation for now. Any incivililty will see it put straight back, though.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

 

[gumboot]

The office fires were minute in comparison to the raging Madrid fires.

False. The impact floors alone for each of the WTC towers represented greater volume than the entire Windsor Tower.

Nothing collapsed in Madrid.

False. All of the upper structural steel in the Windsor Tower collapsed.

The diameter of the fireball was more than 100 meter in diameter, that's some 1,000,000 cubic meter for a fuel load of 60 cubic meter (out of the top of my head). Makes sense to me that this firebal represented all the fuel. I'll therefore leave the Joules calculations gladly as an exercise to you to calculate how much heat was contributed to global warming.

There's no need to make utterly ignorant ill informed assessments of the fireball. NIST have already done a comprehensive analysis of the fireball from UA175. Their upper threshold was 25% of available fuel consumed in the fireball, which means 75% of the fuel on UA175 was dumped on floors inside the building.

You should start reading my blog. These phone calls were fake.

You should stop writing a blog about a topic you clearly know nothing about, and start doing some actual research and learning something about 9/11. You have repeatedly been called out for making blindly false claims in this thread. The three above are just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[twinstead]

It appears that "911-investigator" was a particularly ironic choice of user names. All the fuel was consumed in the fireball? Nothing collapsed in Madrid? The phone calls were fake? And if I see "read my blog" one more time I'm going to scream.

I'd like 911-investigator to tell the loved ones who received those phone calls they received were faked. They really need to know this startling information.

 

[Baylor]

You have to accept that a substantial part of the (global) population has a different view on who carried out the 9/11 mass murder:
.

Not really. Though the numbers are high, considering the stupidity of 9/11 truth.

 

[gumboot]

Wrong.

For starters, the original Peter was obviously a Jew.

Actually the original "peter" wasn't a Peter at all. His name was Shimon (or Simeon) which is Hebrew for "hearing".

Jesus named him Cephas ("Rock" in Aramaic), which was translated in Greek to "Petros" (stone). The Normans introduced the Old French form "Piers" which, by the 15th Century, had morphed into "Peter".

Not only does the name "Peter" first appear about 15 centuries after "Simon Peter" lived, it derives from a translation of a descriptive title or nickname conferred on the man, and is not his actual name.

So no, "Peter" is not, in any shape or form, a Hebrew name.

 

[9/11-investigator]

False. The impact floors alone for each of the WTC towers represented greater volume than the entire Windsor Tower.

False. All of the upper structural steel in the Windsor Tower collapsed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2_srNT8-Ow

The floor size is irrelevant. The only relevant parameter is temperature. Watch the video to see the raging fires that lasted for 19 hours; WTC-fires halted largely after 20 minutes or so.

What fell off from the Madrid tower was concrete, not steel, see video. As you can clearly see: the whole steel framework stood upright after the inferno. No weakening at all. And we do not want to assume that American architects are incompetent as compared to Spanish ones, do we. Que?

There's no need to make utterly ignorant ill informed assessments of the fireball. NIST have already done a comprehensive analysis of the fireball from UA175. Their upper threshold was 25% of available fuel consumed in the fireball, which means 75% of the fuel on UA175 was dumped on floors inside the building.

75% of the fuel was 'dumped on the floor', you claim, amidst a raging fire. This must have been inflammable fuel then! Highly interesting. Is it patented? I mean it is very safe for children! Great wonder though that these planes were able to fly at all on inflammable fuel.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Actually the original "peter" wasn't a Peter at all. His name was Shimon (or Simeon) which is Hebrew for "hearing".

Jesus named him Cephas ("Rock" in Aramaic), which was translated in Greek to "Petros" (stone). The Normans introduced the Old French form "Piers" which, by the 15th Century, had morphed into "Peter".

Not only does the name "Peter" first appear about 15 centuries after "Simon Peter" lived, it derives from a translation of a descriptive title or nickname conferred on the man, and is not his actual name.

So no, "Peter" is not, in any shape or form, a Hebrew name.

Whatever. But you do not seem to deny that Peter is a common name within the Jewish community. That was the point.