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Merged Colin Powell to endorse Obama on Meet the Press?

I forgot to mention that the WMD satellite pics are deliberate staged phonies using toys.
The photos Powell showed to the UN weren't much better ...that's the satire.
 
Do any of you realize how that rumor got started?

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/15/colin-powell-fuels-speculation-possible-endorsement/

Colin Powell has his dancing shoes on, fueling speculation that he's gearing up to do the Obama Two-Step.

The normally staid former U.S. secretary of state and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff performed an impromptu hip-hop dance alongside well-known rap stars Tuesday following a speech at a festival in London celebrating African-American music and fashion.

His address at the "Africa Rising" celebration inside London's Royal Albert Hall fueled speculation that an endorsement of Barack Obama is imminent.

Powell -- who has yet to back a candidate -- told the audience: "I stand before you as an African-American. Many people have said to me you became secretary of state of the USA, is it still necessary to say that you are an African American or that you are black? And I say yes, so that we can remind our children."...
 
This is a tough one, because...

1. Powell is a Huge endorsement in terms of Foreign Policy and muster.
2. Powell was either (A) Deceived by intel, wrt WMDs, or (B) was part of a willful deceit of the world, and the american public in particular, with regards to WMDs.

I think it will help Obama in terms of those who are uneasy about his ability to lead the USA from a foreign policy pov. However, I also think 90-95% of the USA population is already heavily leaning one way or the other in this election, and that overall his endorsement is too late for real impact.

TAM:)
 
Do we really need two threads about this.? I suggest this be merged with the "Powell on Meet The Press " thread.
 
Uh. What? Who brought photos up?

The CIA provided Powell with the information regarding Iraq's WMD programme. Powell believed that the information was more then adequate, as did many people.

It wasn't his fault that he was misled, that he wasn't informed about the dubious nature of the information. He was told it was 'Rock Solid' information. Surprisingly enough, he believed the experts.

So you are completely unfamiliar with Powell's presentation to the U.N. OK. I can understand why you would still attempt to alibi the guy who never thought to get the goods on WOMD's before going to the U.N.

It is of course Powell's fault for not demanding unequivocal evidence before going to the U.N. Did the CIA not trust him with top classified info? Didn't Powell have the proper clearance? He was Sec of State, not some third assistant to an assistant at the state department.
 
Colin Powell only promotes PNAC agenda. He doesn"t like that people like Obama care about the real problems like Afghanistan. Didn"t Powell say that Saddam had WMD"s and even showed pictures at the UN?
 
What effect?

People who, a year ago, would have licked Powell's feet clean and thanked him for the privilege, will now challenge his patriotism, his intelligence, his loyalty, his iconic stature... and will report that those particular grapes were sour anyway, and they never wanted them in the first place.
 
Colin Powell only promotes PNAC agenda. He doesn"t like that people like Obama care about the real problems like Afghanistan. Didn"t Powell say that Saddam had WMD"s and even showed pictures at the UN?

Apparently throught gritted teeth, even though he knew he was being used. Then he quit at the end of that term, and didn't continue into the next term.
 
Powell's endorsement would do little for Obama although even a little at this point might decide the race.

But a Powell endorsement of McCain would be huge and it might be enough to overcome Obama's current lead in the polls.

I don't see any personal benefit for Powell to endorse anybody. If he endorsed Obama, it will be perceived by McCain supporters and many independents as a sort of racial quid pro quo as one black man supports another and it might even hurt Obama.

If he supports McCain the resentment against him would be huge by some people and it would submit him and his family to risk.

I don't think he'll do either, but he might decide that out of some sort of duty or maybe just political expediency he wants to take a pulbic stand. I'd listen to what he had to say, but for me, I can't imagine what could be said or done that would make me vote McCain/Palin.
 
Powell's endorsement would do little for Obama although even a little at this point might decide the race.

But a Powell endorsement of McCain would be huge and it might be enough to overcome Obama's current lead in the polls.

I don't see any personal benefit for Powell to endorse anybody. If he endorsed Obama, it will be perceived by McCain supporters and many independents as a sort of racial quid pro quo as one black man supports another and it might even hurt Obama.

If he supports McCain the resentment against him would be huge by some people and it would submit him and his family to risk.

I don't think he'll do either, but he might decide that out of some sort of duty or maybe just political expediency he wants to take a pulbic stand. I'd listen to what he had to say, but for me, I can't imagine what could be said or done that would make me vote McCain/Palin.

If he does endorse, it will be Obama. The backlash from him on a McCain endorsement would be, albeit unfair, HUGE.

I suspect you are right. I think he will not officially come out and endorse either, but I think he will comment very strongly about Obama, which may get played as an indirect endorsement of him. It will make little difference in the polls.

TAM:)
 
'The really right answer is, what if he is [a muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answers no, that's not America. Is there something wrong with some 7 year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be President?'

Finally, a voice of reason.

The video:
 
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The way Powell did it was rather stinging for McCain and Palin. It will throw them off message for several days when he can not afford it.
 
Well, he certainly came with prepared remarks. He did hit the right notes: 1) Obama is more than qualified. 2) Obama has the right temperament to lead as evidenced by the recent financial meltdown (an intellectual curiosity and equanimity versus McCain's chicken-with-its-head-cutoff); 3) McCain's judgment has been further undermined in his pick of Sarah Palin who is a fine woman blah blah blah blah blah, cut the nice crap, but not ready to lead, contrary to what cultists would have you believe. 4) Speaking of crazy right-wing cultists, McCain is running a campaign based on smears while Obama's is more inclusive. The direction of the Republican Party is not good for this country. 5) Tops it off with a demonstration that a person can be a Muslim and die in some pointless war of imperialistic aggression a patriot.

The problem for the McCain campaign is that Powell has credentials. They can't attack the guy. He's a General, a loyal member of the Bush administration, and he sounds calm, rational. This is terrible because his arguments will not only get a lot of publicity, but they're kinda true. He just sounds so reasonable. Not only has he given money to the McCain campaign, but like a lot of undecideds, he's come to his conclusion recently, in light of recent events. He gives people cover to vote Obama. Of course, he also gave people cover to sign on to a stupid, pointless war of imperial aggression, not that the amnesiac American public will remember, or that Republicans can bring it up in their attacks. "You trust Powell? Remember how he totally got the evidence in Iraq all wrong?"

Geez, ya think people are setting up expectations with this "right man for now," "transformational figure in history" stuff? Chances are he will be around average. It's all about hype anyway (look at Reagan especially).
 
The biggest impact this will have, IMO, is as others have said, by forcing the news cycle onto it for 1-2 days or more...

TAM:)
 
It was a RINGING endorsement. No way to mince words here.

We know that he is going to take a lot of flack for this endorsement but it was a big deal.

I disagree with others on this thread, this will have some effect. Powell is a pretty serious figure and there are some pretty substantial sound-bites in his interview.

Powell spoke some pretty level headed points, hard to dispute if you take out bias on either side.
 
Wow. Just wow.

Ok. I was already going to vote for Obama, but listening to Colin Powell endorse him in the way he did makes me feel good about the vote.
 

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