Homeopathy - I am ready for open challenge

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Dear critics of Homeopathy,

I am Dr.Devendra Kumar munta viswakarma MD(Homeo).Long back I had posted a thread "Homeopathy not a placebo". It is known to the JREF regular users.

I am back again with my positive experimental results with Homeoapthic medicines.

Now I am ready for open challenge to prove that Homeopathic dilutions are different from alcohol or water.

Prior to comment, you can have a look at my experimental results and my proposed natural laws upon which Homeopathic dilutions effecting living beings on the earth.

Please have a look at http://homeoresearch.blogspot.com

You can reach me@: muntadev2in@yahoo.co.in

Have a brainfeed.

Ready for challenge.

Dr.Devendra Kumar munta
MD(Homeo)
 
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Well if you posted before, someone must have told you the process for making a MDC claim. And it isn't by posting here.
 
ETA @muntadev2in, of course.

Do you have any qualifications in medicine other than your MD(Homeo)?
Do you have any scientific training?

Genuine questions - trying to decide if it's worth me looking at your blog, or even at your previous posts here at JREF. Otherwise, to me, you are just a homeopath claiming homeopathy works. All homeopaths claim that - what's so special about you?
 
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I did B.sc.,BZC (Botony, zoology, chemistry) after that joined in Homeopathy Did BHMS(batchler of Homeopathic medicine & surgery) and then MD(Homeopathy)

Please have a look at my blog

yes I am doing my fellowship under Central council for research in homeopathy (CCRH),India. Working with BABA ATOMIC RESERCH CENTER, BIOMEDICAL DEVISION,Mumbai scientists in a collobarative project.

Dr.Dev
 
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Ahh, welcome muntadev2in!

To all: This fellow has posted a lot on homeopathic forus. It is a long time we have had a serious homeopath here, so le't try to have a debate. Of course muntadev2in's formal qualifications is a valid query.

Now, Munta (I hope you don't mind me abbreviating your rather long and cryptic username?), I have a starting question (which is already reflected in Lionking's post):

When you say "challenge", do you mean a debate challenge?
If yes, you are in the right place.
Or, do you mean you want to try for the Randi Million $ challenge?
In this case, you must file a formal application. You can seek advice on protocol discussion on this forum, but the actual protocol must be negotiated with the JREF.

I will now read your links.

Hans
 
OK, I read it. You and I have already discussed this, but by all means, let's try again:

You seem to be making two basic claims (correct me if I'm wrong):

1) The displayed graphs (see attached) reflect temperature changes of the test persons' skin.

2) The graphs show distinct patterns that depend on type of remedy, versus placebo.

Re #1: Please explain how a frequency versus period graph can reflect a time-domain temperature change.

Re #2: Please explain what those characteristic patterns are, because I can't see them.

Hans
 

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muntadev2in said:
yes realy I want advice on protocol.
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From what I've seen so far, your protocol would look something like:

1. Ten placebos and ten homeopathic remedies are prepared and labelled. The labels are then covered up and the bottles are shuffled.

2. Ten volunteers select a bottle at random and consume the remedy.

3. You measure the volunteers skin temperature, or whatever else you fancy, in whatever way you like and examine the results. Based on those results you determine whether the volunteer took the placebo or the remedy.

4. The labels are then uncovered, so your accuracy can be determined.

All that's required in addition is an agreement as to how many correct results constitutes success, which would require agreeing the odds that need to be beaten (1 in 1000 is typical) and calculating how many correct identifications that equates to.
 
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muntadev2in said:
Dear critics of Homeopathy,

I am Dr.Devendra Kumar munta viswakarma MD(Homeo).Long back I had posted a thread "Homeopathy not a placebo". It is known to the JREF regular users.
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I did a quick search, but didn't find the thread. Can you find it for me?

I am back again with my positive experimental results with Homeoapthic medicines.

Now I am ready for open challenge to prove that Homeopathic dilutions are different from alcohol or water.
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Our challenge is a bit different. You are given a number of bottles with a solution in them, and you tell us which ones are homeopathic remedies and which ones are not, using any method you wish to use. Do you have any experiments like this on your blog?

Linda
 
muntadev2in said:
I did B.sc.,BZC (Botony, zoology, chemistry) after that joined in Homeopathy Did BHMS(batchler of Homeopathic medicine & surgery) and then MD(Homeopathy)

Please have a look at my blog

yes I am doing my fellowship under Central council for research in homeopathy (CCRH),India. Working with BABA ATOMIC RESERCH CENTER, BIOMEDICAL DEVISION,Mumbai scientists in a collobarative project.

Dr.Dev
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Thanks very much for your reply. I'm reading through your blog now.

muntadev2in said:
yes realy I want advice on protocol.
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The first thing I notice is that I cannot find any mention of blinding for your experiments. Was any used?


Linda - I think it's this thread.
 
muntadev2in: have you tried experiments of the kind Linda and I have described? If not, I strongly urge you to do so before continuing with your application. It's very easy to convince yourself you can see something you expect to see, the real test is whether you can still see it when you don't know if it's supposed to be there or not. That's why the JREF tests (and indeed all such tests done in accordance with the scientific method) take the form they do. You need to prove to yourself that you can pass this sort of test before even attempting to prove it to anyone else.
 
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muntadev2in: have you tried experiments of the kind Linda and I have described? If not, I strongly urge you to do so before continuing with your application. It's very easy to convince yourself you can see something you expect to see, the real test is whether you can still see it when you don't know if it's supposed to be there or not. That's why the JREF tests (and indeed all such tests done in accordance with the scientific method) take the form they do. You need to prove to yourself that you can pass this sort of test before even attempting to prove it to anyone else.
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This is the one thing that seperates science from psuedoscience. Well, there are a lot of things, but they re all wrapped up neatly into this one quote. This statement should be the first thing you see when you apply for the challenge.
 
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