Atheism is a false philosophy held by the most arrogant

[Firefish]

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Even when you're ugly, I still love you. Why? Because I'm one of those people who believes everything is connected, unified, or ONE. That means you consist of this ineffable oneness, 100%, and are, indeed, adorable and lovable, even if you don't realize it yet.

I find one of the toes on my left foot ugly and I hate it, but i still love my self 100%.
It's okay to not love a part of something even tough you love the complete something.

 

[Mashuna]

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

I understand that this is your argument, but I've highlighted the bit you're missing.

 

[cyborg]

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

1 2 3

1 3 2

2 1 3

2 3 1

3 1 2

3 2 1

Which of these sequences is ordered and which is not and why?

 

[Polgara]

Silentknight, When you say, "Your God still doesn't exist.", that's like saying
"ninney-ninney-boo-boo". Forget the word God for a moment and simply consider the word INTELLIGENCE, in whatever form.

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

Now, because people like Dr. Albert Einstein devoted the last 30 years of his life attempting to prove that everything is connected, his UNIFIED FIELD THEORY, along with the Hindu concept of Brahman, the oneness of it all, and the Buddhist concept of Dharmakaya, the oneness of it all, this concept of oneness is not new.

I happen to "believe" that everything "is" connected and that this oneness is intelligent. I feel it is "from" this intelligent oneness that law and order come.

You see, my basic argument is and has always been just this: ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. Atheists, on the other hand, believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

People like you seem to get lost and confused by the many definitions of God that are out there. In my view, this omnipresent oneness, of which everything is made, is also INTELLIGENT. Because this intelligent oneness also includes YOU and me, whatever you want to call it, IT IS US!!!!

Therefore, since YOU exist, my God does exist. So there!

a) Are you being serious, or are we playing the debate game here? Do you really believe all of this touting and spouting you are doing?

b) You call foul on another player for playing some imaginary 'nanny boo-boo' game, and then pass the following ending comment "So there!" That's ridiculous.

c) Re: Your need to qualify the definitions re: concepts that you are discussing: Why don't you specify the definitions you are discussing, and then let the others work with those definitions. This is your topic, you lay the groundwork.

 

[wolfgirl]

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

Yes, we get that that's what your argument is and has always been. We aren't missing that. We just don't get where you get that from. Where is your evidence of this? You seem to think that "it just makes sense to me" or some such is evidence and we should all just bow down to your obviously superior intellect and agree. Once you learn about evolution, truly learn the facts and not just the crap that you've apparently been spoon-fed, you will be able to see how order exists without the need for any intelligent design behind it. It will, at long last, "just make sense to you."

You see, my basic argument is and has always been just this: ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. Atheists, on the other hand, believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

So - and this has been asked of you several times before, including by me - what intelligent direction created this "creator" that you believe must exist? Because certainly an intelligence capable of creating the universe must have an extremely high level of order. So if you can't comprehend a universe that can exist without someone having designed it, then how do you simultaneously comprehend a designer that can exist without someone having designed it. In your own words, order requires intelligent direction, therefor any creator requires intelligent direction, too.

Until you can answer that, you have to leave off arguing with us and start arguing with yourself!

Therefore, since YOU exist, my God does exist. So there!

I am stunned by the sheer intellectual magnificence of this statement!

 

[godless dave]

Thanks for that mate

I'd like to thank you for being at pains to differentiate yourself from the moronic believers. Too many of the more thoughtful believers have a tendency to leap to the defense of the morons.

 

[six7s]

Which morons would Jesus defend?

 

[Frozenwolf150]

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

Not at all. Your argument certainly contained some order, or some semblance thereof, and yet it's obvious there was no intelligence behind it.

Therefore, since YOU exist, my God does exist. So there!

In that case, I hereby command you to build an ark. Be quick about it too, because there's another tropical storm brewing.

 

[bwinwright]

So arrogant and sheeplike

That can certainly be true as this thread would appear to demonstrate. But before the temptation arises to fulfil the second part of the premise in the thread's title, it should be noted that this phenomenon can occur in the other direction too, as demonstrated in some of the straw man versions of religious concepts which some atheists bash down.

Agreed. This applies in all manner of thinking, not just religious matters.

And how is that hypothesis not rejecting "science and common sense, ignoring fact and reason." ? What is an "organizing intelligence of which everything consists", if all known intelligence is instead composed of matter ?



They don't apprear to claim that it's intelligent. That's a big leap.



Wrong. Omnipotence is inconsistent.



STOP! <In the naaaame of love!>

This is circular reasoning. You can life "engineered" and then proudly announce that there is a designer.



Which is why nobody believes that. Evolution is not just blind luck.



Wrong.



That could be true IF atheism had anything to do with evolution. Which is doesn't. Perhaps you should strive to understand what you are talking about before you make yourself look like a fool in public.



Sex is a synonym of sophistication ? We have computer programs that can reproduce, though. Does that count ?



Nope. The Earth is not always going at the same speed. Again, learn the subject matter.



Longer than a string of amino acids, probably.



There is none more arrogant than he who believes that the entire universe was made for him by a perfect being he imagines made him in its image.

Thank you for this statement. I completely agree, but have never been able to state it so eloquently. In every debate I've had with someone of religious/ID persuasion, that really nails down the problem. Sometimes they don't even understand that they don't understand the argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams#Sentient_puddle

Thanks for that mate

I can't help it if you have an irrational mind and want to believe in magic and sky pixies. But to say no one has made a reasonable case needs a qualifier, "to you". Many of us see god beliefs as irrational and there is a very good case to be made that god beliefs are just things people made up over time for a number of reasons. The fact you don't get that is your problem.

Bull, pure and simple.

That does not make the comment wrong.

Please cite ONE scientifically-reached 'conclusion' that posits the existence of any god

You might have been listening, but you didn't hear

Atheism is the absence of theism; nothing more, nothing less


Similarly, aUnicornists and aLeprechaunists are equally silent on the details of their respective non-beliefs

Why?

Wrong

Again... wrong

Maybe... so?

Please, stop arguing from incredulity! Instead, do some research and realise how your ignorance is blinding you from the 'magic' that is reality

Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0
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Unfortunately, in real life and on this forum, there is nothing to prevent the promotion of 'madness', as your posts illustrate

This is your problem. The solution lies with you

Egg, Just as the title of my thread indicates, most atheists are almost insufferably arrogant. They have bought into the likes of Richard Dawkins who erroneously assumes natural selection is enough to explain the complexities of biological systems, and that intelligence has nothing to do with evolution. Amazingly enough, so many folks participating in this forum want to be part of the Dawkins crowd so badly they are willing to swallow his garbage.

Most of you don't know that Dawkins is simply working you. He doesn't really buy all the crap he's peddling. He is simply using most of you as his guinea pigs, more like lab rats, to prove the theory of memplexes. You guys are all blind little sheep, mindlessly falling into lockstep behind this Lied Piper.

He's the point man for the Fabian Society, the folks who own and control Oxford University. As most of you probably do not know, The Fabian Society is a socialistic/communistic organization that wants to systematically eliminate organized religion, while promoting atheism.

Dawkins is far too intelligent to actually believe that complex systems simply develop over billions of years WITHOUT any intelligent direction. His real agenda is to trash organized religion and make millions selling books to his atheistic clones, thereby helping to prove his memetics theory is true.

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure. Dawkins is laughing at you atheists.

Yes, he let's people announce him as the world's most famous atheist because he is making MILLIONS. Plus, no telling what else he's getting from the ruling elite at The Fabian Society for getting so many sheep to blindly follow his every command.

 

[applecorped]

Does the thought that there is no god or intelligent design scare you?

 

[Hokulele]

Egg, Just as the title of my thread indicates, most atheists are almost insufferably arrogant. They have bought into the likes of Richard Dawkins who erroneously assumes natural selection is enough to explain the complexities of biological systems, and that intelligence has nothing to do with evolution. Amazingly enough, so many folks participating in this forum want to be part of the Dawkins crowd so badly they are willing to swallow his garbage.

Most of you don't know that Dawkins is simply working you. He doesn't really buy all the crap he's peddling. He is simply using most of you as his guinea pigs, more like lab rats, to prove the theory of memplexes. You guys are all blind little sheep, mindlessly falling into lockstep behind this Lied Piper.

He's the point man for the Fabian Society, the folks who own and control Oxford University. As most of you probably do not know, The Fabian Society is a socialistic/communistic organization that wants to systematically eliminate organized religion, while promoting atheism.

Dawkins is far too intelligent to actually believe that complex systems simply develop over billions of years WITHOUT any intelligent direction. His real agenda is to trash organized religion and make millions selling books to his atheistic clones, thereby helping to prove his memetics theory is true.

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure. Dawkins is laughing at you atheists.

Yes, he let's people announce him as the world's most famous atheist because he is making MILLIONS. Plus, no telling what else he's getting from the ruling elite at The Fabian Society for getting so many sheep to blindly follow his every command.

 

[Frozenwolf150]

Egg, Just as the title of my thread indicates, most atheists are almost insufferably arrogant. They have bought into the likes of Richard Dawkins who erroneously assumes natural selection is enough to explain the complexities of biological systems, and that intelligence has nothing to do with evolution. Amazingly enough, so many folks participating in this forum want to be part of the Dawkins crowd so badly they are willing to swallow his garbage.

Most of you don't know that Dawkins is simply working you. He doesn't really buy all the crap he's peddling. He is simply using most of you as his guinea pigs, more like lab rats, to prove the theory of memplexes. You guys are all blind little sheep, mindlessly falling into lockstep behind this Lied Piper.

He's the point man for the Fabian Society, the folks who own and control Oxford University. As most of you probably do not know, The Fabian Society is a socialistic/communistic organization that wants to systematically eliminate organized religion, while promoting atheism.

Dawkins is far too intelligent to actually believe that complex systems simply develop over billions of years WITHOUT any intelligent direction. His real agenda is to trash organized religion and make millions selling books to his atheistic clones, thereby helping to prove his memetics theory is true.

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure. Dawkins is laughing at you atheists.

Yes, he let's people announce him as the world's most famous atheist because he is making MILLIONS. Plus, no telling what else he's getting from the ruling elite at The Fabian Society for getting so many sheep to blindly follow his every command.

Since you can obviously read people's minds, I happen to know of a way you can make a cool million dollars yourself, hint, hint.

Hey, I'm just trying to help you out here.

 

[paximperium]

Forget the word God for a moment and simply consider the word INTELLIGENCE, in whatever form.

Alright...yeah...now what? It is still an unjustified and useless statement.

My argument is and has always been the fact that, logically speaking, the only possible way for ORDER to exist is because some form of INTELLIGENCE produced it. THAT'S IT!!!!!!

In which everyone is waiting for you to explain the justification for this statement that you have cowardly refused or have been unable to answer.

Now, because people like Dr. Albert Einstein devoted the last 30 years of his life attempting to prove that everything is connected, his UNIFIED FIELD THEORY, along with the Hindu concept of Brahman, the oneness of it all, and the Buddhist concept of Dharmakaya, the oneness of it all, this concept of oneness is not new.

Screw you, you dishonest pile of idiocy. This statement shows you don't even know what you're talking about and by bantering about Einstein, it just shows you're attempting to subvert his work for your retarded reasons. Pathetic.

I happen to "believe" that everything "is" connected and that this oneness is intelligent. I feel it is "from" this intelligent oneness that law and order come.

So? How does you feeling or believing anything make it true. Everyone is still waiting for an explanation.

You see, my basic argument is and has always been just this: ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

Still waiting....

Atheists, on the other hand, believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

Yup...so?

People like you seem to get lost and confused by the many definitions of God that are out there. In my view, this omnipresent oneness, of which everything is made, is also INTELLIGENT. Because this intelligent oneness also includes YOU and me, whatever you want to call it, IT IS US!!!!

A completely and utterly useless and even more ill defined version of god but whatever makes you happy. Knock yourself out.

Therefore, since YOU exist, my God does exist. So there!

I stand corrected. This is the stupidest statement I've read all time. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[wolfgirl]

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure.

(sigh) I repeat...

Once you learn about evolution, truly learn the facts and not just the crap that you've apparently been spoon-fed, you will be able to see how order exists without the need for any intelligent design behind it. It will, at long last, "just make sense to you."

What intelligent direction created this "creator" that you believe must exist? Because certainly an intelligence capable of creating an entire universe must have an extremely high level of order. So if you can't comprehend a universe that can exist without someone having designed it, then how do you simultaneously comprehend a designer that can exist without someone having designed it. In your own words, order requires intelligent direction, therefor any creator requires intelligent direction, too.

Until you can answer that, you have to leave off arguing with us and start arguing with yourself!

 

[schlitt]

Let me first say that I think your conclusion is very much correct in this case. After that I'm going to say this though: Rubbing their noses in it is even more pointless. In fact, it is counterproductive, since it reinforces the impression that you feel superior, smacks of cop-out, and discourages every will to learn about your position.

In general I agree with you. Using reasoned argument and pointing to evidence is always the best course of action. However in some cases you just have to cut your losses and move on. There are prime examples of people on this discussion board who have been arguing the same nonsense for years and are immune to logic/evidence.

Simple, you conclude that you understand both your own position as well as the position of your opponent. In cases where this happens, your opponent also thinks he understands both positions. In fact, it might very well be that you yourself are in fact the one with the incomplete understanding, or even both are.

I agree. That is the problem with argument that I was pointing out in the first place.

However there is a difference between those who understand the possibility of their logic being flawed, and those who's perceptions exist only within the sphere of their possibly flawed logic and are therefore never able to recognize any possible flaws.

Yes, I agree with most of this, but it still brings nothing to actually say it. Most people can probably follow the reasoning required to understand these things sufficiently, but it requires translation into terms they are familiar with, and small steps. For instance, the first reply in this thread, though very to the point, explains nothing to BWinwright. In stead of concluding that your opponent is fundamentally unable to grasp a point, you might as well conclude that your own teaching skills are fundamentally insufficient to make him grasp the point.

But, as said before, this only goes for people willing to grasp the point.

Agreed.

You may differ from me here however; I suspect there is a significant portion (perhaps it is even the majority) of the human species who are physically incapable of grasping reality from the bottom up. By physically incapable I mean the system of matter which comprises their brain cannot physically be arranged in such a way as to manifest a conscious understanding of many complex, key concepts.

 

[paximperium]

Egg, Just as the title of my thread indicates, most atheists are almost insufferably arrogant. They have bought into the likes of Richard Dawkins who erroneously assumes natural selection is enough to explain the complexities of biological systems, and that intelligence has nothing to do with evolution. Amazingly enough, so many folks participating in this forum want to be part of the Dawkins crowd so badly they are willing to swallow his garbage.

Now not only ignorant but a mind reading liar as well. Your "love" knows no bounds.
Thanks for your dismissal of all biology and all the scientists who work in the field. We respect your amazing insight and complete and utter ignorance on this topic to make a sweeping and bigoted judgment against biologist and atheists. We feel your "love".

Most of you don't know that Dawkins is simply working you. He doesn't really buy all the crap he's peddling. He is simply using most of you as his guinea pigs, more like lab rats, to prove the theory of memplexes. You guys are all blind little sheep, mindlessly falling into lockstep behind this Lied Piper.

He's the point man for the Fabian Society, the folks who own and control Oxford University. As most of you probably do not know, The Fabian Society is a socialistic/communistic organization that wants to systematically eliminate organized religion, while promoting atheism.

Dawkins is far too intelligent to actually believe that complex systems simply develop over billions of years WITHOUT any intelligent direction. His real agenda is to trash organized religion and make millions selling books to his atheistic clones, thereby helping to prove his memetics theory is true.

Wow...simply...wow....thanks for this post. It is great evidence on who and what you are.

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure. Dawkins is laughing at you atheists.

I would never insult Forest Gump by equating a fictional character with the likes of you.

Yes, he let's people announce him as the world's most famous atheist because he is making MILLIONS. Plus, no telling what else he's getting from the ruling elite at The Fabian Society for getting so many sheep to blindly follow his every command.

We now know that you are:
1)Paranoid
2)Delusional
3)Ignorant
4)Bigoted

I feel sorry for harping and attacking someone with a mental disorder. I seriously apologize to everyone. I feel like a bully. This fella needs help.

 

[bwinwright]

IT's The TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, the argument from DESIGN

Yes, we get that that's what your argument is and has always been. We aren't missing that. We just don't get where you get that from. Where is your evidence of this fact. You seem to think that "it just makes sense to me" or some such is evidence and we should all just bow down to your obviously superior intellect and agree. Once you learn about evolution, truly learn the facts and not just the crap that you've apparently been spoon-fed, you will be able to see how order exists without the need for any intelligent design behind it. It will, at long last, "just make sense to you."So - and this has been asked of you several times before, including by me - what intelligent direction created this "creator" that you believe must exist? Because certainly an intelligence capable of creating the universe must have an extremely high level of order. So if you can't comprehend a universe that can exist without someone having designed it, then how do you simultaneously comprehend a designer that can exist without someone having designed it. In your own words, order requires intelligent direction, therefor any creator requires intelligent direction, too.

Until you can answer that, you have to leave off arguing with us and start arguing with yourself!I am stunned by the sheer intellectual magnificence of this statement!

Wolfgirl, I am simply arguing the teleological argument, the supposition that there is PURPOSE or DIRECTIVE PRINCIPLE in the works and processes of NATURE.

Wolfgirl, I am saying that the universe, nature, evolution, natural selection, etc. are FAR too complex and orderly to have occurred randomly or accidentally, WITHOUT INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Thomas Aquinas, Berkeley, Descartes, Voltaire, Emerson, Thoreau, and many others made the teleological argument to establish the existence of an intelligent designer of it all. I have simply been trying to get ANY of you to tell me WHY you believe incredibly complex systems did not require any form of intelligent design.

This idea that you all seem to be spell-bound by, that there is no intelligent design to the universe is perhaps the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Why? Because it is simply impossible.

Even Charles Darwin didn't really believe that natural selection was the product of non-intelligence. Neither does Richard Dawkins. They simply reject the Zeus, Thor, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus-like characters being some type of supernatural, magical, God-like being characters. Plus, they HATE organized religion. This is Dawkins' true agenda.

Because he is such a big brain, backed by the Rothschild controlled Fabian Society which controls OXFORD, and he has been given the assignment to promote the Hell out of Atheism, that's what he is doing.

He's doing it because he is making millions by getting sheeple like the majority of atheists on this forum to buy his book and parrot his teachings. Dawkins even admitted to to being convinced of the existence of God by the teleological argument but felt the customs of the Church of England were so absurd, he became an atheist out of protest.

In addition, Dawkins is proving his meme theory, his ability to convert sheeple into atheists too. He's very very intelligent.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to a part of organized religion. I don't blame anyone for not believing that a man walked on water, parted the Red Sea, talked to a burning bush, or other such myths.

However, to believe that a bunch of rocks and gases, exploded from the big bang, simply bumped into one another billions of times over billions of years and just happened to produce the complex universe we know today, ALL WITHOUT any intelligent direction. PLEASE!!!!!! Just how can anyone be so gullible?

It's goes back to the "watch" reassembling itself, without any intelligent assistance. It simply CAN NOT HAPPEN. Yet, because DAWKINS tells you differently, you believe him. Wow!!!

 

[paximperium]

In general I agree with you. Using reasoned argument and pointing to evidence is always the best course of action. However in some cases you just have to cut your losses and move on. There are prime examples of people on this discussion board who have been arguing the same nonsense for years and are immune to logic/evidence.

You are forgetting one other use for these threads.
I tend to use these boards for:
1)Friendly banter
2)Discussion: An exchange of ideas and to learn new things
3)Debate: Where I try to change to mind of the other debater and the lurkers in the crowd
4)Cathartic smackdown ie. trolling: I do this as a stress reliever. I do this to people like bwinwright, EJ Armstrong and DOC once I realize that they are completely and utterly unable to hold an honest conversation. It amuses me. It's a great stress reliever. I don't do this in a more neutral forum because even if the posters are complete loons, I am still attempting to convince the crowd to my side...try discussion of vaccines in health food forums...it is an interesting tip toe exercise.

I find these fellas great training wheels for more amateurish online debaters to practice on. For a beginner atheist, bwin's arguments are extremely easy to dismantle and I do recommend that they try their hand at it.

However there is a difference between those who understand the possibility of their logic being flawed, and those who's perceptions exist only within the sphere of their possibly flawed logic and are therefore never able to recognize any possible flaws.

I agree to an extent. Logic is mostly objective, pointing out this flaws tend to be evidence. Among the delusional, they do not realize those flaws and among the dishonest, they dismiss those flaws.

You may differ from me here however; I suspect there is a significant portion (perhaps it is even the majority) of the human species who are physically incapable of grasping reality from the bottom up. By physically incapable I mean the system of matter which comprises their brain cannot physically be arranged in such a way as to manifest a conscious understanding of many complex, key concepts.

Unfortunately, this is the case. The multiple cases of those with specific fanciful and extreme pathologic personality disorders such as Schizoid or Schizotypal personality disorders are examples. I believe that a lesser form of these disorders exist among the vast population.

 

[volatile]

Some of us are skeptical...

John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

 

[Macoy]

Egg, Just as the title of my thread indicates, most atheists are almost insufferably arrogant. They have bought into the likes of Richard Dawkins who erroneously assumes natural selection is enough to explain the complexities of biological systems, and that intelligence has nothing to do with evolution. Amazingly enough, so many folks participating in this forum want to be part of the Dawkins crowd so badly they are willing to swallow his garbage.

Most of you don't know that Dawkins is simply working you. He doesn't really buy all the crap he's peddling. He is simply using most of you as his guinea pigs, more like lab rats, to prove the theory of memplexes. You guys are all blind little sheep, mindlessly falling into lockstep behind this Lied Piper.

He's the point man for the Fabian Society, the folks who own and control Oxford University. As most of you probably do not know, The Fabian Society is a socialistic/communistic organization that wants to systematically eliminate organized religion, while promoting atheism.

Dawkins is far too intelligent to actually believe that complex systems simply develop over billions of years WITHOUT any intelligent direction. His real agenda is to trash organized religion and make millions selling books to his atheistic clones, thereby helping to prove his memetics theory is true.

I have been accused of being far too Forest Gump-like to understand just why atheists are so intelligent for believing that natural selection and the complexities of evolution never required any form of intelligence. Why? Because it just happens NATURALLY? Sure. Dawkins is laughing at you atheists.

Yes, he let's people announce him as the world's most famous atheist because he is making MILLIONS. Plus, no telling what else he's getting from the ruling elite at The Fabian Society for getting so many sheep to blindly follow his every command.

Not me, though. I'd much rather swallow your far more logical and satisfying conspiracy theories than Dawkins'. In my full title as 'Keeper Of Most Piously Lofty Epistles And Tracts: Tirades Of Staggering Stultification', I can state on behalf of my organisation that your threads have inspired us all.