AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[Disbelief]

Live debates expose your faceless 'experts'.

And why should faceless 'experts' on an internet forum matter to you if you have this concrete evidence of government complicity? Should you not being doing more than sending out sill press releases? If you can not figure out how to go about this with your hard hitting evidence, there really is no hope for you.

It also prevents random silly questions, and graphics of cartoons appearing.

Yet solves nothing.

WHo's backing down AGAIN? Are we going to do this interview, or do you
guys want to keep hiding and refusing to take responsiblity for your claims?

It is your claim that the government lied, so you need to prove it to someone besides the people here. You also hide behind a screen name here, so why are you casting stones. Why did you sign up using your real name if you are so sure of your info?

By the way, where did they find the FDR?

 

[WildCat]

Since none of those witnesses were
qualified airplane investigators, they could have idea whether the parts
were from a missile, or smaller aircraft.

Come back when you can explain how a wing can pass through a solid
wall, but cut steel beams?

Here's a question Turbofan ran away from earlier in this thread: Turbofan, how could a smaller airctaft's wings pass through a solid wall and cut steel beams, but a larger one couldn't? Do you still believe it was a smaller aircraft?

 

[Turbofan]

And why should faceless 'experts' on an internet forum matter to you?

They don't matter to me in the overall sense of your question.

They do however spread lies and false theories about the FDR data which
people like you tend to eat up and propagate.

That's the problem. That is why I'm interested (and PFT) in calling out your 'experts'
and exposing them.

 

[Turbofan]

Here's a question Turbofan ran away from earlier in this thread: Turbofan, how could a smaller airctaft's wings pass through a solid wall and cut steel beams, but a larger one couldn't? Do you still believe it was a smaller aircraft?

Because the smaller entry hole and damage would support a smaller aircraft.

That means there is no such wing passing through a wall

I believe it was not AA77.

Smaller aircraft being a smaller plane, or missile.

Back on topic.

Wildcat, would you be interested in hearing Anti, Beachnut and Reheat
debate PFT members live?

 

[WildCat]

This post from lapman earlier in this thread shows some of the thousands of pieces of debris that Turbofan thinks was planted:

Oh, you mean this debris:

How many people did it take to plant all that debris Turbofan? And nobody saw it!

 

[Reheat]

That's the problem. That is why I'm interested (and PFT) in calling out your 'experts' and exposing them.

Yea, right! Everyone here already knew it was YOUR (pffft, CIT, and minions) silly Internet game. You've confirmed it for all to see.

 

[WildCat]

Because the smaller entry hole and damage would support a smaller aircraft.

That means there is no such wing passing through a wall

I believe it was not AA77.

Smaller aircraft being a smaller plane, or missile.

Back on topic.

So it was a plane with a 16 foot wingspan that everyone mistook for a 767?

Wildcat, would you be interested in hearing Anti, Beachnut and Reheat
debate PFT members live?

I'd be interested in any of the dolts from PfffT contacting real FDR experts (not fake internet ones) and share their "investigation" with them.

Of course, real FDR experts think you guys are a joke, which is why none are members of PfffT.

 

[WildCat]

From another thread, more debris Turbofan thinks was planted. Obviously, the NWO was very busy that day!

Hamradioguy: Yeah, there's the wheel:

the tire:

whatever the heck this thing is:

ground-up passengers, etc.

What came through the wall is what was left of the plane and its contents that made it all the way into C-Ring, not any one thing.

Was that wheel from a missile Turbofan? Or from a plane with a 16 ft. wingspan?

 

[WildCat]

The NWO also planted body parts of the passengers in the Pentagon! See all those blue ovals Turbofan? Were Flight 77 passengers and crew ground into hamburger and packed aboard the missile or smaller plane?

 

[WildCat]

Another earlier post summing up just a few of the things turbofan thinks happened that horrible day:

Actually, I'd like you to flesh out a bit more what you think happened at the Pentagon. Here's what we have so far, based on your posts:

Flight 77 disappears from radar screens, and is replaced by either a "smaller plane" or a missile, above it which flys a Boeing E-4B. Making impossibly tight turns at high speed no other airplane is capable of, the "smaller plane" or missile strikes the Pentagon, while the E4B flys over the Pentagon. Teams of conspirators immediately swoop down on the scene, tearing light poles out of the ground, sticking one in Lloyd England's cab. Other conspirators tear up tree branches, knock over construction equipment and material, fences, and marking poles where they figure Flight 77 would hit if it had actually taken the flight path they programmed into the FDR, which the crack team of conspirators also planted in the Pentagon. Other teams of conspirators spread airplane parts all over the lawn of the Pentagon, inside the Pentagon, and in the alley beyond the C-Ring. They blow a hole in the C-Ring with a wall breaching kit for good measure. At the same time, other conspirators go inside the burning Pentagon and plant the remains of the Flight 77 passengers and crew, which have been ground into hamburger a short time earlier when Flight 77 was diverted to some other airport where everyone on board was killed.

All of this was done in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses - from people on their way to work, to Pentagon employees, to firemen, paramedics, and policemen arriving on the scene. And nobody notices!

But there was one problem - one of the doofuses at the NWO accidentally programmed the flight path of the decoy plane into the planted FDR instead of the fllight path they would officially claim for Flight 77. The NTSB ignores these discrepancies, because they are also in on the conspiracy.

Everything is going smoothly until the crack team of FDR experts and researchers at the PfffT files a FOIA request and the NTSB turns over the incorrect data. Now they have blown the whole scheme wide open!

Is this an accurate summary of what you believe happened Turbofan?

Quite the operation, wasn't it Turbofan?

 

[Turbofan]

Gee, those pictures are really cool. They really looked all burned up from
the jet fuel too

Wow, one wheel hub out of what...10?

A rubber tire, but no titanium engines? No fuselage to make that massive,
clean, near perfect round exit hole? You think landing gear made that hole? LMAO!

These pictures further prove the OGCT is a joke.

Get your pro's to debate PFT, I can't wait to roast them.

 

[WildCat]

Gee, those pictures are really cool. They really looked all burned up from
the jet fuel too

Wow, one wheel hub out of what...10?

A rubber tire, but no titanium engines? No fuselage to make that massive,
clean, near perfect round exit hole? You think landing gear made that hole? LMAO!

These pictures further prove the OFCT is a joke.

Get your pro's to debate PFT, I can't wait to roast them.

Denial, not just a river in Egypt. The summary in my last post is accurate as to your beliefs, correct Turbofan?

 

[Disbelief]

They don't matter to me in the overall sense of your question.

If they do not matter, why come here trying to get them to debate you? Your words here are in direct contrast to all of your other posts.

They do however spread lies and false theories about the FDR data which
people like you tend to eat up and propagate.

How do you know what I believe, as I have not expressed that. While I actually have a bachelor's degree in EET, I have not looked at the arguments closely to try to agree/refute your claims. The big reason is that you have noty explained where the FR was found and how this would help your cause.

That's the problem. That is why I'm interested (and PFT) in calling out your 'experts'
and exposing them.

No, the problem is that you are even bothering with people on an internet forum if you have this blockbuster proof. Can you not figure out what to do next?

By the way, have you even proven that you have FDR experts at PfT? From your list, I have not seen anyone who can be classified as an expert.

 

[lapman]

Gee, those pictures are really cool. They really looked all burned up from
the jet fuel too

Wow, one wheel hub out of what...10?

A rubber tire, but no titanium engines? No fuselage to make that massive,
clean, near perfect round exit hole? You think landing gear made that hole? LMAO!

These pictures further prove the OGCT is a joke.

Get your pro's to debate PFT, I can't wait to roast them.

And no sign of intelligence in that post whatsoever. Gee turbofan, you have proven to know absolutely nothing about anything pertaining to 9/11. You even think that the fuselage of an aircraft is some solid object and made that hole. What an amazing amount of stupidity that you just presented to everyone on this board.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

that massive, clean, near perfect round exit hole? You think landing gear made that hole? LMAO!

I corrected you... you're welcome turbofan. Next time view images fro before, not after cleanup operations began

 

[Turbofan]

And no sign of intelligence in that post whatsoever. Gee turbofan, you have proven to know absolutely nothing about anything pertaining to 9/11. You even think that the fuselage of an aircraft is some solid object and made that hole. What an amazing amount of stupidity that you just presented to everyone on this board.

The only stupid thing is that you believe AA77 struck the Pentagon even
though the damage and FDR says otherwise.

Gee lapman, you're forgetting the initial news reports of that morning? You
are dismissing eye witness accounts recorded on video.

You bend over and accept the poor excuse of shoddy video released by the
DOD, while it contradicts the FDR data.

You bend over and accept that a light pole suspends itself through a wind-
shield without a scratch on the seat, or hood.

A terrorist decides to make a loop in restricted airspace instead of crashing
directly into a target! LMAO! Nice one lapper!

Your defence system failed to intercept 4 planes, and AA77 being known
to be hi-jacked for about 45 minutes and tracked up to 50 miles (while doing
a loop!)

No release of video from any other Pentagon camera, Citgo, or Hotel.

Nobody stands up and corrects the working copy to prove their case.

Cheney's story doesn't match Mineta's video testimony.

The impact damage doesn't add up with a Boeing.

No formal investigation

Need I go further?

How about one more - the animation shows incorrect pressure altitude!

PFT figured it out.

So instead of questioning these points, you make excuses about mythical
data lag, and DME!

 

[WildCat]

Actually, I'd like you to flesh out a bit more what you think happened at the Pentagon. Here's what we have so far, based on your posts:

Flight 77 disappears from radar screens, and is replaced by either a "smaller plane" or a missile, above it which flys a Boeing E-4B. Making impossibly tight turns at high speed no other airplane is capable of, the "smaller plane" or missile strikes the Pentagon, while the E4B flys over the Pentagon. Teams of conspirators immediately swoop down on the scene, tearing light poles out of the ground, sticking one in Lloyd England's cab. Other conspirators tear up tree branches, knock over construction equipment and material, fences, and marking poles where they figure Flight 77 would hit if it had actually taken the flight path they programmed into the FDR, which the crack team of conspirators also planted in the Pentagon. Other teams of conspirators spread airplane parts all over the lawn of the Pentagon, inside the Pentagon, and in the alley beyond the C-Ring. They blow a hole in the C-Ring with a wall breaching kit for good measure. At the same time, other conspirators go inside the burning Pentagon and plant the remains of the Flight 77 passengers and crew, which have been ground into hamburger a short time earlier when Flight 77 was diverted to some other airport where everyone on board was killed.

All of this was done in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses - from people on their way to work, to Pentagon employees, to firemen, paramedics, and policemen arriving on the scene. And nobody notices!

But there was one problem - one of the doofuses at the NWO accidentally programmed the flight path of the decoy plane into the planted FDR instead of the fllight path they would officially claim for Flight 77. The NTSB ignores these discrepancies, because they are also in on the conspiracy.

Everything is going smoothly until the crack team of FDR experts and researchers at the PfffT files a FOIA request and the NTSB turns over the incorrect data. Now they have blown the whole scheme wide open!

Is this an accurate summary of what you believe happened Turbofan?

You've been avoiding this post for over a month now Turbofan, don't you think it's time you man up and answer it?

This is what you think happened, yes?

 

[Turbofan]

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I corrected you... you're welcome turbofan. Next time view images fro before, not after cleanup operations began

OOPS! I'm sooooo sorry! Did you say this was before clean up?

So, did Hani take his hammer and chisel out of his purse to removed the bricks
along the green line?

Maybe they just fell off in a near perfect arc because of some new "phenomenon"?

I guess those bricks don't count because of some debris hanging down
that you have so elegantly outlined in red?

Welcome to 911 where missing bricks are not part of an exit hole, until
AFTER the clean up!

 

[WildCat]

You've been avoiding this post for over a month now Turbofan, don't you think it's time you man up and answer it?

This is what you think happened, yes?

Turbofan? Aren't you tired of running away from this question?

 

[applecorped]

OOPS! I'm sooooo sorry! Did you say this was before clean up?

So, did Hani take his hammer and chisel out of his purse to removed the bricks
along the green line?

http://procision-auto.com/911/911_exit_hole.jpg

Maybe they just fell off in a near perfect arc because of some new "phenomenon"?

I guess those bricks don't count because of some debris hanging down
that you have so elegantly outlined in red?

Welcome to 911 where missing bricks are not part of an exit hole, until
AFTER the clean up!

When are you going to do something productive about this massive cover-up? Posting here doesn't seem to be doing much to expose this conspiracy. If you truly cared about the innocent victims you would be doing more than posting here.