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Coffins ready-made for FEMA deathcamps. Debunking help please.

For people trying to work out what Old Bob is talking about; the Port Arthur massacre was in April 1996. Old Bob has several threads on this issue so I won't derail this thread with further discussion.
 
Old Bob said:
What a silly question, what size is a coffin? Small medium or large. Just like brain size. As for the seal I only know what the add says and it is a rubber type seal with 11 or 13 ribs. Also top lids or for heavy people the seal is on the bottom so the body can be rolled on the flat base. Coherent enough.??
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I'll let Enigma answer that as he asked the question(s) of you, though I think you answered a different question from what he asked.
 
Old Bob said:
What a silly question, what size is a coffin? Small medium or large. Just like brain size. As for the seal I only know what the add says and it is a rubber type seal with 11 or 13 ribs. Also top lids or for heavy people the seal is on the bottom so the body can be rolled on the flat base. Coherent enough.??
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Silly non-answer. I asked a specific question and if you are unable to answer, don't.
 
Old Bob said:
Here is a bit of info, the US gov. has bought 500 000 air tight long lasting vaults. They come in all sizes with a nice wreath stamped on. Info@Polyguard Vaults,inc Western Office 167 Twin Spruce Lane Afton, WY 83110 Now it seems to me to be for sealing either radioactive or diseased people. Does bird flu raise a eyebrow? We had incredible foresight by our great leaders in Tasmania just before the big shoot up which was meant for American tourists. They sent army blankets and bought a 22 body frig hearse before the shootings in 91 which was the excuse used to disarm Australians. The little town of Port Author had about 1 car fatality a year. So it looks like maybe you should get ready for something nasty. Have a look at shootersnews.addr.com or just search Martin Bryant.
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You know, I actually find this to be rather believable. Only the government could operate at such a level of inefficiency; they are going to exterminate hundreds of thousands of people, and then put them all into coffins that are complete with wreaths. After that, the victims will be buried adjacent to the local Amtrak station. :boxedin:
 
I'm the one that posted the email from Polyguard on ATS.

The competition she was referring to is Vanguard.

The burial vaults/graveliners are 7x3x3 and are required in most cemeteries, to keep water out of the coffin (diving bell principle) and to keep the grave from caving in.

Polyguard sells to the VA, which is enough of a government link for the conspiracy wing nuts to jump to FEMA. VA buys them under the name of thermoplastic graveliners.

The vaults/liners/septic tanks, whatevers that are out in the field in Madison Georgia are 7x3x3 and are a match to the vaults on Vanguard's web site as to the ribbing.

I have emailed Vanguard to ask if they store their surplus inventory on Lions Club Road. And if they do, why so much?

If I get an answer back, I'll post it here.
 
Pauligirl said:
I'm the one that posted the email from Polyguard on ATS.

The competition she was referring to is Vanguard.

The burial vaults/graveliners are 7x3x3 and are required in most cemeteries, to keep water out of the coffin (diving bell principle) and to keep the grave from caving in.

Polyguard sells to the VA, which is enough of a government link for the conspiracy wing nuts to jump to FEMA. VA buys them under the name of thermoplastic graveliners.

The vaults/liners/septic tanks, whatevers that are out in the field in Madison Georgia are 7x3x3 and are a match to the vaults on Vanguard's web site as to the ribbing.

I have emailed Vanguard to ask if they store their surplus inventory on Lions Club Road. And if they do, why so much?

If I get an answer back, I'll post it here.
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Thanks for your input. I look forward to reading whatever you get from Vanguard.


ETA: I was in Toronto this weekend, and in talking to my funeral business buddy, and telling him the story of how this thread has played out, he mentioned that these sorts of things were often referred to in the industry as "graveliners". And note, the terminology that Pauligirl is using: "VA buys them under the name of thermoplastic graveliners." As I said earlier, if some people want to continue to believe the e-mail from Polyguard is a fake, it's an incredibly good fake.
 
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Pauligirl said:
I'm the one that posted the email from Polyguard on ATS.

The competition she was referring to is Vanguard.

The burial vaults/graveliners are 7x3x3 and are required in most cemeteries, to keep water out of the coffin (diving bell principle) and to keep the grave from caving in.

Polyguard sells to the VA, which is enough of a government link for the conspiracy wing nuts to jump to FEMA. VA buys them under the name of thermoplastic graveliners.

The vaults/liners/septic tanks, whatevers that are out in the field in Madison Georgia are 7x3x3 and are a match to the vaults on Vanguard's web site as to the ribbing.

I have emailed Vanguard to ask if they store their surplus inventory on Lions Club Road. And if they do, why so much?

If I get an answer back, I'll post it here.
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3x3x7? The specs on the Vanguard site are different...
 
Here's the email:

The property on Lions Club Road in Madison, Georgia is leased by Vantage
Products.

The product stored on the property are standard burial vaults, please see
our web page for information on this product - vantageproducts (I can't post the link)

The majority of cemeteries across the United States require the use of a
burial vault when a body is interred. The use of a burial vault, plastic or
concrete, is to prevent the collapse of the ground in the cemetery
and to protect the casket placed inside.

In the funeral and/or death care industry there is a common practice of
people making their funeral arrangements prior to death. Many people
like to make their own selections for the casket and burial vaults that will
be used at the time of their death. Once this selection has been made
the local funeral home that has made the arrangements can purchase the
burial vault product from Vantage Products and we will store it for them
until that person dies.

We maintain detailed records of ownership of the products and require a
certificate of ownership to be sent to us before products can be released.
Additionally, we are annually audited by several states including Georgia
to insure that we have all of the products that our records indicate and
that are on file with each of the participating states.

These products are not owned by any one individual person, company or the
government. Additionally, there are only about 50,000 vaults in storage in
Madison, no where near the quantity that is being discussed openly on the net.

In the United States there are approximately 1,300,000 deaths each year.
Of those deaths there are about 900,000 in ground burials preformed
every year. Only a small percentage of those people have pre arranged
there burial.

I hope this has answered you questions. Please do not hesitate to contact
me if you have additional questions.

Cordially,

Michael A. Lacy
Vice President of Operations
Vantage Products Corporation
960 Almon Road
Covington, GA 30014
770-788-0136 Office
770-788-0361 Fax
404-545-8022 Cell
mlacy@vantageproducts.com

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the 7x3x3 came from the guy from ATS that went out there. He took a camera but probably not a yardstick, so he was guessing. He was pretty close.
 
Pauligirl said:
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the 7x3x3 came from the guy from ATS that went out there. He took a camera but probably not a yardstick, so he was guessing. He was pretty close.
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Thanks for the e-mail. And I figured the 7x3x3 was an estimate. Having built a deck with a friend who (as it turned out!) didn't know how to use a tape measure properly, I'm not at all surprised it's a bit off.

Hopefully this will lay this issue to rest once and for all.




Yeah, right, but I can hope!
 
why would they use coffins? wouldnt they just incinerate all the corpses to cover up the crime, if the NWO is ever over-thrown by the Justice League?
 
To have a sealed grave liner 7 by 3 by3 would lift about 630 lb in wet water logged ground, how do they stop the whole thing raising in wet soft soils? Gravel, concrete, old battries or are you all over weight? Big Mac may save the day.
 
Old Bob said:
To have a sealed grave liner 7 by 3 by3 would lift about 630 lb in wet water logged ground, how do they stop the whole thing raising in wet soft soils? Gravel, concrete, old battries or are you all over weight? Big Mac may save the day.
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so what are you trying to say here? that the graveliners are not a legitimate product?
 
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so what are you trying to say here? that the graveliners are not a legitimate product?
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Sorry, a little joke and my maths were wrong, the lift factor would be about 1700 kgs. And yes they don't seem logic to me, a container that size would takequite a number of body's. Starved corpses mybe 8 or 10 plus a few kids. Then the extra weight would hold them down in mud conditions. And I bet they have a chip in the plastic, like some of our wheelie bins. I have no doubt that a earlier post would be correct explaining grave liners and in dry ground they would stay under so why the special water seal or could it be to stop the spread of some nasty disease. We have a unspoken problem in Aus. being a warm climate bodies were injected with formaldehyde before cold rooms now that stuff is showing up in some water supplies and the EPA don't test for it.
 
Old Bob said:
Sorry, a little joke and my maths were wrong, the lift factor would be about 1700 kgs. And yes they don't seem logic to me, a container that size would takequite a number of body's. Starved corpses mybe 8 or 10 plus a few kids. Then the extra weight would hold them down in mud conditions. And I bet they have a chip in the plastic, like some of our wheelie bins. I have no doubt that a earlier post would be correct explaining grave liners and in dry ground they would stay under so why the special water seal or could it be to stop the spread of some nasty disease. We have a unspoken problem in Aus. being a warm climate bodies were injected with formaldehyde before cold rooms now that stuff is showing up in some water supplies and the EPA don't test for it.
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they arent intended to hold the bodies themselves, they are put over the coffin (which themselves could hold several starved children but im guess you dont find anything suspicious at your local funeral home)

also, you may have noticed people come in lots of shapes and sizes, therefore coffins do as well, as these liners are likely injection-molded its cheaper from a production standpoint to make them in 1 size

as for a seal to stop the spread of disease, why not use body bags? probably cheaper to produce, easier to store and transport, but since you didnt find a pile of bosy bags you have to shoehorn this into your conspiracy theory

many modern coffins offer an air/water seal, but there doesnt seem to be a problem with them floating to the surface, or any conspiracy theories surrounding them, so whats so special about these?
 
Old Bob said:
To have a sealed grave liner 7 by 3 by3 would lift about 630 lb in wet water logged ground, how do they stop the whole thing raising in wet soft soils? Gravel, concrete, old battries or are you all over weight? Big Mac may save the day.
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I suggest you retry the math, but use FEET not METRES. 7'x3'x3' is about 2m x 1m x 1m.
 
PhantomWolf said:
I suggest you retry the math, but use FEET not METRES. 7'x3'x3' is about 2m x 1m x 1m.
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Closer would be 2.1 by.9oo by .9oo or 7' by 3' by 3'= 63 cub ft 6.25 Australians gallons to the cub. ft=393.75 by 10lb to the gal=3937.5 lbs of uplift. Does it matter it's quite a bit. The whole thing has blown out of hand, if we have a large number of sealed coffin liners I'm saying that the up lift in wet ground would create a problem. If they are to be used for the quick sealed burial of a large amount of bio victims then we need to worry. Seems odd that that many would be stored in a world that produces just in time.
 
Old Bob said:
Closer would be 2.1 by.9oo by .9oo or 7' by 3' by 3'= 63 cub ft 6.25 Australians gallons to the cub. ft=393.75 by 10lb to the gal=3937.5 lbs of uplift. Does it matter it's quite a bit. The whole thing has blown out of hand, if we have a large number of sealed coffin liners I'm saying that the up lift in wet ground would create a problem. If they are to be used for the quick sealed burial of a large amount of bio victims then we need to worry. Seems odd that that many would be stored in a world that produces just in time.
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They aren't sealed though, they are basically an upside down tub.
 
Old Bob said:
Closer would be 2.1 by.9oo by .9oo or 7' by 3' by 3'= 63 cub ft 6.25 Australians gallons to the cub. ft=393.75 by 10lb to the gal=3937.5 lbs of uplift. Does it matter it's quite a bit. The whole thing has blown out of hand, if we have a large number of sealed coffin liners I'm saying that the up lift in wet ground would create a problem. If they are to be used for the quick sealed burial of a large amount of bio victims then we need to worry. Seems odd that that many would be stored in a world that produces just in time.
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Coffins do pop out of the ground during a flood. That is why we don't bury our bio victims, we incinerate them.
50000 coffin liners is only a 2 week supply, if they serve the whole nation, why is that odd? Besides, it is explained above that they sell coffins and liners to people and store them until they die, and are audited by the state to ensure that they have them in storage.
 
As I heard, those are not coffins, but coffin vaults.



Taken from Infowars.com, but they say it's in the middle of Georgia.

Le edit: Oh, snap, looks like I got here late.
 
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