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"Oxygen-starved" fire? Explain the jumpers.

Explain what force on earth could have stopped the tower(s) from collapsing after the first 0.5 seconds of slippage. Do you understand the momentum involved or do you think it's a great idea to mimic the rest of the truth intellectual idiots in the truth movement?
Explain what force (mass) above the towers could have created enough pressure to squish 1000 feet of tower if the stop frame analysis shows it
was blowing up ABOVE the impact zone?

Again, how long can a human survive in 200 'F heat?

TAM, it must not have been too hot until that point then huh? Maybe 90'F.

What temperature must it have been for the people to start jumping?
Be the first person in history that can answer this...

After the first 0.5 seconds of slippage IN THE AREA OF IMPACT explain what power could have prevented collapse. Also explain why a 15 story chunk of office building would not and could not have caused an overload of the remaining heat weakened columns IN THE AREA OF IMPACT?
I already answered that. You didn't read it again...

What Power? Power? Is that a physics term for opposing gravity?

Remember the talk about the core and perimeter (outer) steel columns?


Questions aren't answers, Turbofan. Seriously... Are you OK?
 
Questions aren't answers, Turbofan. Seriously... Are you OK?

Knock, knock...

The 0.5 seconds of "slippage" (whatever that is? What slipped?), should have
been stopped by the core and perimeter columns below the impact zone.

I mean...they were holding up the tower all of those years?

That is my answer. The opposing "force" (*cough*) is the strength
of the steel beams.

15 stories ? Of dust? I still don't see a full intact section of tower falling
all the way through 1000 feet of tower.

Show me a picture. Video. Anything to prove the 15 stories pushed down
on the tower.
 
Knock, knock...
I mean...they were holding up the tower all of those years?

But at no point during those 30 some odd years did the the equivalent of 15 floors (30 for the south tower) fall an entire floor height at the accelleration of gravity to impart a dynamic load on the individual components.

By your logic a my bed which I've slept on for 10 years should be able to resist the force of me jumping on it from my roof... I mean hey, I'm a 200-pound man... since it can support my weight then surely I can be sure that I won't fall right through the frame jumping on it from the roof :rolleyes:

F=ma

turbo... if only you knew how to use that equation... :(

15 stories ? Of dust? I still don't see a full intact section of tower falling all the way through 1000 feet of tower.
Of course you still have the mass of the floor slabs acting on everything piece by piece... By claiming that it was "nothing but dust", you're certainly headed in the direction of Judy Wood there... look out for lazers!
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Show me a picture. Video. Anything to prove the 15 stories pushed down on the tower.

Unfortunately there are no 'x-ray videos' that can show you all of the mass that the cloud of dust and smoke is hiding, and you clearly seem apt to reject anything that doesn't do so...
 
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Knock, knock...

The 0.5 seconds of "slippage" (whatever that is? What slipped?), should have
been stopped by the core and perimeter columns below the impact zone.
Did the upper block fall directly on the columns?

I mean...they were holding up the tower all of those years?
With a live load that wasn't even on the columns, but on the floors?

That is my answer. The opposing "force" (*cough*) is the strength
of the steel beams.
What steel beams? You mean the trusses? You think the trusses were designed to hold all that weight?
 
But at no point during those 30 some odd years did the the equivalent of 15 floors (30 for the south tower) fall an entire floor height at the accelleration of gravity to impart a dynamic load on the individual components.

At no point on 9/11 did the top section fall an entire floor height!

How many columns were cut again? :rolleyes:


Of course you still have the mass of the floor slabs acting on everything piece by piece

Conservation of Momentum? If YOU only knew what that meant...


Unfortunately there are no 'x-ray videos' that can show you all of the mass that the cloud of dust and smoke is hiding, and you clearly seem apt to reject anything that doesn't do so...

Do you care to explain how the dust was created as the demo wave descended
with gravity alone?

You do realize the impact surface must be able to resist the "falling" (?) object
in order to produce the dust?
 
Did the upper block fall directly on the columns?

Nothing FELL! It was all connected by columns inside and out.

Understand yet?


With a live load that wasn't even on the columns, but on the floors?

What's your source for this? Where did the 47 core columns go?

What steel beams? You mean the trusses? You think the trusses were designed to hold all that weight?

The 47 core columns! Where are they? How do they disconnect ...and if
they did, where did the move to quick enough to avoid sticking up into the
air?
 
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I actually didnt think any people jumped from the second tower. Any proof there were? I`m trying to make a hypothesis of what i think happened that day, thats why i`m asking.

There was an intact stairwell in 2.

So unless they couldn't find it, I'd imagine they got below the fire zone.
 
Nothing FELL! It was all connected by columns inside and out.

Understand yet?
First off... before you continue, learn the difference between 'cut' and 'buckled'. Buckled is a failure mode in which either the connections or the column itself fails. Nothing was ever 'cut', but of course repeat and rinse, until we believe your imaginary controlled demolition... riight?:rolleyes:



Where did the 47 core columns go?
It seem you have to be taken through this continually in baby steps. They ended up in the debris pile. Gravity pulls things down on earth...



The 47 core columns! Where are they?
I dunno... in what direction does gravity pull objects turbo? Are you seriously this incompetent? You still think they should have been standing unbraced?


How do they disconnect
Gravity, and loss of lateral bracing to keep moment stresses on the connections in check.

...and if they do, where did the move to quick enough to avoid sticking up into the air?

All I see here is gibberish... what are you asking here? how they buckled? You see what happens to the cores in video footage. This isn't hard to grasp...

Here turbo... I'll try to be optimistic and hope this teaches you the concept... I won't hold my breath :rolleyes:

LINK

ETA: Assuming you even bother to check the link... pay special attention to the area in orange That is the difference braced vs. UNbraced
 
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