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"Oxygen-starved" fire? Explain the jumpers.

Allen773

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I cannot believe that there are people who think that the fires in the WTC weren't intense. How come 200-300 people jumped from them, Troofers? The out-of-context usage of Orio Palmer's words, a man who can't defend himself, is also sickening.
 
Allen there's a branch of the truth movement that denies that airplanes hit the WTC towers. You have to remember to keep the stupidity in perspective when dealing with truthers. ;)
 
WildCat said:
Allen there's a branch of the truth movement that denies that airplanes hit the WTC towers. You have to remember to keep the stupidity in perspective when dealing with truthers. ;)
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Oh ain't THAT the truth
 
Allen773 said:
I cannot believe that there are people who think that the fires in the WTC weren't intense. How come 200-300 people jumped from them, Troofers? The out-of-context usage of Orio Palmer's words, a man who can't defend himself, is also sickening.
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If there is a situation that requires a stupid or impossible explanation, there is undoubtedly a twoofer somewhere who has come up with just that.:p

By the way, Allen, was there a particular article, event, thread, blog post...etc. that you read and are commenting on? It's always good to post a link to the subject at hand. It makes for livelier and more informed responses from other members.;)
 
Here's an article:

No Prior Collapse Induced by Fire

The official theory is rendered implausible by two major problems. The first is the simple fact that fire has never---prior to or after 9/11---caused steel-frame high-rise buildings to collapse. Defenders of the official story seldom if ever mention this simple fact. Indeed, the supposedly definitive report put out by NIST---the National Institute for Standards and Technology (2005)---even implies that fire-induced collapses of large steel-frame buildings are normal events (Hoffman, 2005).[4] Far from being normal, however, such collapses have never occurred, except for the alleged cases of 9/11.


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Edited for Rule 4 breach. Source previously uncited is this:
http://911controlleddemolition.blogspot.com/2006/02/official-account-cannot-be-true.html
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It's by David Ray Griffin. What a liar he really is. How could a respected philosopher be this stupid?
 
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Hehe. Well, if one wants to know about theology, Griffin might be an authority. When it comes to engineering...let's just say that DRG approaches engineering from a "faith based" point of view.
(before you get a mod warning, you might want to cut your post down to a paragraph or 2 and post a link. I believe it's a Rule 4 thing.) ;)
 
Allen773 said:
So, one woman surviving out of about 400 people in the impact zone is indicative of the fires being oxygen-starved?
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I think Tweeter is claiming that the fires where the woman is standing weren't hot enough to heat the columns which were CUT CLEAN THROUGH to the point of failure. :boggled:
 
Allen773 said:
So, one woman surviving out of about 400 people in the impact zone is indicative of the fires being oxygen-starved?
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Allen , Allen , Allen.... You said in your Op ""I cannot believe that there are people who think that the fires in the WTC weren't intense."
I was just showing you an example of why they think that.
And for the record she did die.
 
Tweeter said:
Allen , Allen , Allen.... You said in your Op ""I cannot believe that there are people who think that the fires in the WTC weren't intense."
I was just showing you an example of why they think that.
And for the record she did die.
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So are you saying that you DO think the fires were extremely intense?
 
Tweeter said:
Allen , Allen , Allen.... You said in your Op ""I cannot believe that there are people who think that the fires in the WTC weren't intense."
I was just showing you an example of why they think that.
And for the record she did die.
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I've read your posts before, Tweeter. I'm aware of where you stand on the subject of 9/11.

And yes, I know she died. Stop exploiting her death for whatever pathetic political goal you have.
 
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So, one woman surviving out of about 400 people in the impact zone is indicative of the fires being oxygen-starved?

WTF
 
Tweeter said:
Originally Posted by Allen773 View Post
So, one woman surviving out of about 400 people in the impact zone is indicative of the fires being oxygen-starved?

WTF
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I'm talking about the impact zone. And yes, there were a few other survivors besides her in the impact zone, but that was merely a fluke. The plane and exploding fuel missed them.

Oh, and I'm well aware that hundreds of people above and below the impact zones survived the plane crashes, but were trapped and died later.
 
WildCat said:
Allen there's a branch of the truth movement that denies that airplanes hit the WTC towers. You have to remember to keep the stupidity in perspective when dealing with truthers. ;)
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True, but I see these allegations about the fires made all the time.

In contrast, I would be quite surprised if there were more than a few dozen sincere no-planers on the planet. But, mental illnesses are common...
 
Allen773 said:
I'm talking about the impact zone. And yes, there were a few other survivors besides her in the impact zone, but that was merely a fluke. The plane and exploding fuel missed them.

Oh, and I'm well aware that hundreds of people above and below the impact zones survived the plane crashes, but were trapped and died later.
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That woman was edna Cintron, she worked on the 97th floor. She made her way to the the 94th but could go no further beause of the FREAKING FIRES.
 
If you consider smoke inhalation issues fires don't have to be that intense to get people jumping.
 
geni said:
If you consider smoke inhalation issues fires don't have to be that intense to get people jumping.
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Then people could just move down, in the opposite direction of the smoke. But they were moving TOWARDS the fires-which, incidentally, continued to burn up to the point of collapse (and even afterwords for weeks after in the ruins of the WTC).
 
WildCat said:
That woman was edna Cintron, she worked on the 97th floor. She made her way to the the 94th but could go no further beause of the FREAKING FIRES.
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...and she was evidently one that, knowing there was no hope of escape due to the damage and fires, jumped.
Henry62 wrote an article about this that Pat covered at the SLC blog.

Warning: The images at Henry62's site are extremely disturbing and not for the faint of heart.

Edit: Note that Henry62's site is Italian, but there is a translated section for some posts and an automatic translator available.
 
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