CIT.....Time to call it a day

[The Big Dog]

They don't have the variables?

Cripes they told their witnesses the path, they know the speed it would take for their fantasy flyover (and if they did know it, their guy Morin told them). Now do the math, champs.

Pfft tried it once. Yeah they failed. But they said it could be done.

What cowards and frauds.

By the way, I've said it before but why does JFK act as those morons' personal watch dog? Has the loose Change crew adopted CIT's flyover fantasy? It seems to me, one call from Avery and CIT would be shown the door. And as it is clear that he has now is posting everyone of my posts over at LC: THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON!!

/by the way, what is wrong with that Preston character? Why does he keep posting the same pictures in every post?

HI GUYS!

 

[1337m4n]

/by the way, what is wrong with that Preston character? Why does he keep posting the same pictures in every post?

HI GUYS!

I normally say this as just an insult. But I think SPreston actually has a true genuine mental disorder. There's nothing else I can think of that accounts for his behavior and the fact that the folks over there actually tolerate him.

 

[The Big Dog]

reheat, when one of the goofs over at LC tries to hijack your thread, ignoring your repeated requests that CIT post its math and requesting that you post your math, make sure you direct JFK's attention to this thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110370

where it was shown time and time again that CIT's flight path was impossible.

/way to hijack that thread JFK. Cripes, why don't you let CIT fight their own battles. Cowards.

 

[GlennB]

The CIT Boys have their routine down pretty slick, but it still amounts to absolutely nothing. I’m pretty certain the whole Pentacon brand is for some other sort of publicity – it certainly isn’t to try and bring anyone to justice, not with the absolute rat’s nest of ******** they call “evidence” they claim to have. Perhaps it is some complicated advertising program for as a front for Trip's band.

....

My bolding.

Maybe, but I suspect they just want to become swashbuckling heroes so as to get laid by some truther chicks. It would be in everybody's interest for this to happen, so can we set up a PayPal account, round up a few dollars and send some "ladies" down their way?

 

[The Big Dog]

"Reaheat fails at the most remedial critical thinking skills as his entire argument is based on a logical fallcy."

WOW! Lyte just went all the way around the bend! Now he admits that the plane his witnesses describes was in fact a black ops covert plane designed to fool his witnesses, who themselves are covert ops designed to to mislead the CIT, given that Waldo claimed that the CIT's witnesses were lying to them about the plane hitting the Pentagon.

So what do we get out of this?

Lyte has lost his mind, the CIT is a joke, the CIT won't even try the math (that they now seem to realize is impossible) JFK is wasting his life trying to protect these clowns,

AND THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON....

 

[Mr.Herbert]

A modified aircraft to resemble a commerical airliner????? Bwahahahha

Is this a new claim since it was shown that their flyover was impossible?

Craig is getting his a** whooped over there.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

I have pointed out the logical fallacy and you have failed to show that I am correct.

-Craig Ranke

 

[GlennB]

-Craig Ranke

They have become obsessed with "logical fallacies" over there lately, to the extent that we might need to create a new logical fallacy, called - perhaps - "appeal to logical fallacy as a method of avoiding reasonable debate".

 

[Mr.Herbert]

From JFK at LCF:

Since reheat can not come up with anything valid to support his claims this thread will be moved to the skeptics forum.

This JFK joker is a tool. Reheat posted a link to his math. JFK ignored it.

Craig was asked to show HIS math to show that his witnesses claims were possible ... HE could NOT.

 

[Brainache]

I have pointed out the logical fallacy and you have failed to show that I am correct.

I never thought Craig could out do his see-saw analogy, but OMG. That has to be a strong contender for Stundie of the year...

 

[The Big Dog]

what a shock: JFK thread jacks when Lyte is unable to support his fantasy flight path, then throws it to Skeptics.

CIT is joke.

JFK is a joke.

The new LC board is a complete joke.

FAIL.

 

[1337m4n]

I think JFK is a pretty cool guy. Eh censors everyone he disagrees with and doesn't afraid of anything.

 

[jaydeehess]

From JFK at LCF:



This JFK joker is a tool. Reheat posted a link to his math. JFK ignored it.

Craig was asked to show HIS math to show that his witnesses claims were possible ... HE could NOT.

The really disturbing part of all of this is that the math is not that difficult. A grade 12 student who understands the math and physics he has been taught could apply it here and come up with the answers asked for.

In the Pfft attempt at math all they had to do was know how to apply d=d₀+v₀t+(.05)at² and its derivative
v=v₀+at

Yet they failed miserably and simply refuse to correct their math.

 

[The Big Dog]

Well, after Reheat slaughtered the CIT, and decimated the LC board, Gatekeeper JFK: threadjacks the thread requesting that CIT post the math to support its fantasy flight path; dumps the entire thread into an LC dead end when they fail to do so; and ends up suspending Reheat for the crime of embarrassing the LC board.

Pitiful, JFK. Is CIT so craven that you have to prop up their lies? YES.

 

[munki?]

Well, after Reheat slaughtered the CIT, and decimated the LC board, Gatekeeper JFK: threadjacks the thread requesting that CIT post the math to support its fantasy flight path; dumps the entire thread into an LC dead end when they fail to do so; and ends up suspending Reheat for the crime of embarrassing the LC board.

Pitiful, JFK. Is CIT so craven that you have to prop up their lies? YES.

I've been following that thread as well. Quite the spanking that Reheat delivered. Frankly, I am astonished at the audacity of "JFK". Here is a forum that's express purpose is finding the truth, yet they will ban any skeptics of their theories at he drop of a hat. The favoritism at that place is pathetically obvious. At no point in any of Reheats posts did I see anything even resembling an infraction worthy of suspension. Quite the corrupt hierarchy they've established at the LCF. The irony is palpable.

 

[Reheat]

Well, I just discovered I am banned until 3 June apparently for giving an impertinent reply to two consecutive impertinent posts.

I must ask myself do I need that kind of crap in an attempt to alleviate ignorance? The answer is a overwhelming,,,,NO!

It is quite obvious by now that the ignorance is willful. It was a test anyway and now I know for myself.

Proof that a BS theory is bogus is a strawman argument? New definition I guess. Logical fallacy? Isn't it normal to tell someone what the fallacy is when making an accusation? Normal words have a different meaning over there.


ETA: BTW, I won't be back there anymore. Once is enough. Let their ignorance proceed as it may. It's simply not worth my time, energy, or tolerance level to put up with that kind of unmitigated crap.

 

[beachnut]

The CIT Boys have their routine down pretty slick, but it still amounts to absolutely nothing. I’m pretty certain the whole Pentacon brand is for some other sort of publicity – it certainly isn’t to try and bring anyone to justice, not with the absolute rat’s nest of ******** they call “evidence” they claim to have. Perhaps it is some complicated advertising program for as a front for Trip's band.

Better men than I have tried to make them understand how their "cherry-picking" of evidence or their "Selective witness" program is especially indicative of their less-than-honorable intentions. For example, Witness John Doe will provide, say, 10 pieces of informational data from their testimony. Things like 1) I was standing here (points to a place on a map), 2) The time was such-and-such, 3) I was facing to the west when the event occurred and so on.

The CIT Boys will then cherry pick and choose what parts of the informational data they like and which parts they don’t. The parts they like become God’s Honest Truth and the parts they don’t like become either the misguided rantings of a poor, duped and fooled victim of Government malfeasance, or a bald-faced government-planted stooge/liar.

Terry Morin and Sean Borger are just two of these examples, but they are classic in that both have elements of their testimony that would support the (albeit totally bogus) CIT circus of events but also have "And, for your information, I am damn sure the aircraft hit the building" parts.

I said "both have elements...that would support the CIT circus...", but the caveat to that is only if they adopt a close-one-eye-and-squint-out-of-the-other perspective of their witnesses testimony or if they twist or mangle or intentional misinterpret descriptive terms or adjectives like what the word "parallel" means when used in a sentence such as "...flight path parallel to the outer edge of they FOB (Navy Annex)" (from Terry Morin, who incidentally was used as a witness FOR the "north of Citgo" flight path when his entire testimony is 100% absolutely opposite to that contention).

Their work can be used to debunk their conclusions and actually support what CIT calls the "official flight path". They are the worse investigators in the world.

we have to remember they are selling the "truth" on DVD

 

[The Big Dog]

Waldo slimes back into the thread to make a heroic stand (after you got hit with the ban hammer, naturally)! He will cease and desist all of his efforts if you can get five of CIT's witnesses to recant. The problem is, what shall they recant, Waldo? The fact that they all said the plane hit the Pentagon? We both know that will never happen.

Or just go back to hiding beneath JFK's skirts.

"You are manipulating fools like "Munki" and "16.5" because they want to so desperately believe that the plane was not on the north side."

Hee, hee, hee! C'mon Waldo, manipulate me: just do the math, I will be convinced. I think you are not smart enough to do it, prove me wrong.

"Calculayshunz." Wow. He is like a child who is having trouble reading, so he screams out "Books are stupid!" But with Waldo, the math is too hard. So, he screams out "Calculayshunz" are stupid. Thanks, Waldo, you have confirmed that you are not smart enough to do the calculations.

/eta: nice Non Sequitur JFK!

 

[beachnut]

For those who want to follow the thread, I have registered at LC Forums.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/297723/1/#new

They moved your thread, just as you said; they are like animal farm. Some people are more equal, and at LCF the false ideas are more equal.

SPreston thinks he knows aero! This is funny. Posting aero junk to a pilot not in p4t group of pilots. Does SPreston know p4t pilots are the only group of pilots bragging they cant hit the broad side of building. (in the safety of a simulator; a simple tasks kids could do, and proven by many real pilots, and even documented on the truther favorite media, the internet)

Makes me wonder if the pilots in p4t all were grounded for missing the runways that were 207 feet wide, or like the Pentagon BIG!

SPreston posts tripe and JFK makes sure your ideas are put in the skeptic area. Does this make the other LCF areas the fantasy areas with only pure false information?

How pre-school of them. (so far no signs of knowledge in the truther posts at LCF; a perfect recored)

 

[munki?]

Waldo
"You are manipulating fools like "Munki" and "16.5" because they want to so desperately believe that the plane was not on the north side."

Wow, I had no idea that I desperately wanted to believe the plane was not on the north side. Quite the contrary. I'm very comfortable with my belief that it wasn't. I would like to thank CIT personally for further solidifying that belief with their own witnesses accounts.

And I would also like to commend CIT on their timing in that thread. The moment Reheat was suspended they start posting again. Way to keep your cards close to your chest, CIT. Why would you possibly want to show the math for your "smoking gun evidence" in the murders of three thousand people when you can use its alleged existence as ammunition in pissing contests on internet forums?