WTC collapses - Layman's terms again

pomeroo said:
Tell us exactly what you know that the real engineers who post here regularly do not. How did you acquire the knowledge that is not taught in engineering schools?
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i did not say i know something the engineers dont know, i sayd actually that i hope that one of the engineers will correct him, because when i do it, you will not belive me, when one of the engineers explains him whats wrong, he will belive it.

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you and your real engineers....
 
As I deal with real engineers all-the-freaking-time as a matter of business, I'm used to being wrong sometimes. The difference is that the engineers will tell me how they think I'm wrong, and why.

I don't discriminate who verifiable facts come from so long as they are, in fact, verifiable. Please divulge. As a skeptic I would rather be proven wrong so that I can adjust my position than persist in being wrong out of ignorance.
 
Minadin said:
As I deal with real engineers all-the-freaking-time as a matter of business, I'm used to being wrong sometimes. The difference is that the engineers will tell me how they think I'm wrong, and why.

I don't discriminate who verifiable facts come from so long as they are, in fact, verifiable. Please divulge. As a skeptic I would rather be proven wrong so that I can adjust my position than persist in being wrong out of ignorance.
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well then ask one of those engineers :)
 
To the best of my professional knowledge there are no credible structural engineers who have provided a CD or simialr hypothesis. Those who have posted calculations have invariably been shown to be wrong (eg Ross) and have no track record in what is acknowledged as a specialist field.
 
pomeroo said:
THOUSANDS, not hundreds, of people witnessed Flight 175 crash into the South Tower.
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I'd feel pretty safe saying millions of people witnessed it.

The impact of UA175 is without doubt the single most observed event in all human history. To claim it did not happen is an outright rejection of reality.
 
Architect said:
To the best of my professional knowledge there are no credible structural engineers who have provided a CD or simialr hypothesis. Those who have posted calculations have invariably been shown to be wrong (eg Ross) and have no track record in what is acknowledged as a specialist field.
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it was not about CD or not CD, it was about a post from a "debunker" that is kinda contradicting law of physics. but when a debunker is wrong, the other debunkers mostly dont point it out. but when a twoofer writes something wrong, a few new topics will be opened.
 
and btw Ross? are you talking about momentum transfer and the letter from greening that corrected Ross on some details? wich then confirmed Ross his findings of collapse arrest? yes thats funny.
 
gumboot said:
I'd feel pretty safe saying millions of people witnessed it.

The impact of UA175 is without doubt the single most observed event in all human history. To claim it did not happen is an outright rejection of reality.
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TV Withnesses dont count :)
i saw Copperfield flying on TV.
 
Corsair 115 said:
You appear to be venturing towards being a "no planer" conspiracist. Is that really where you want to go?
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no planes in NY? sure not. but i also dont belive that millions saw it.
even ppl that was directly near the towers didnt see the plane.
and i think it was not millions in NY that witnessed it with theyr own eyes.

but that does not mean i doubt the planes.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
no planes in NY? sure not. but i also dont belive that millions saw it.
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That shouldn't be that hard to establish. All you need to do is dig up the ratings for ABC's Good Morning America on the morning of Sept. 11th, since it was the program which, if I recall correctly, broadcast live the impact of the second jet. Once you have the ratings you'll know how many people were likely watching.

Good Morning America is a popular morning show, so I would expect a viewership in the millions was easily attainable.
 
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oc when you count the TV stations, but the No Planers claim the TV pictures were faked anyway.

and i doubt that millions withnessed the impacts without TV.
 
What would you say would be a better number? Tens of thousands? If you're only counting people who saw at least one of the plane impacts live and in person without the aid of any television or other video monitors, and considering the number of people in or near downtown NYC that morning, and the time between the first impact and the second, just how many pairs of eyes do you think would be trained on the WTC that morning?
 
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Minadin said:
What would you say would be a better number? Tens of thousands? If you're only counting people who saw at least one of the plane impacts live and in person without the aid of any television or other video monitors, and considering the number of people in or near downtown NYC that morning, and the time between the first impact and the second, just how many pairs of eyes do you think would be trained on the WTC that morning?
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Don't forget NJ just across the river.
 
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