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"Jersey Girls"

chillzero said:
You are all being led off topic once more.

By the way, I think it's incredibly callous to call these women nutbars. They are victims themselves, albeit indirectly. They are grieving, and in a difficult place. They'll never have anything answered to their satisfaction, because so much of the event was not covered by tv, or logs or records. Yes, I know a vast amount of it was. They are also not experts, and they are being used by a movement for the movement's own means.

The movement may not deserve respect in anyone's eyes, but these families of people who died that day do; at least to that fact.
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are they abused by the "truth-movement" ?
or is it more that they work together because they have the same goal, new investigations.

most of the time i dont hear alot about them, only on events when they speak, those videos goes around, nut not to often they are used in the videos al over the net.
 
RedIbis said:
That's commendable for you to say, but what makes you think they're being "used by a movement"? They're tough, they're strong, they've been through a lot. They don't come off as naeve.

The first chapter of Shenon's book depicts them as remarkable women who were able to chase Henry Kissinger from taking the job as sole commissioner of the Commission.
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Are you suggesting that they have to be naive to be "used by a movement"? I get the impression they know quite well that they're being used, and for what purpose too ... and don't have a problem with it.
 
My point was more that calling them names, in view of what they must be going through, is wrong, imo.

I feel that they are being used because their grief, and their need for answers - understandable when loved ones are lost in such horrific circumstances - are being used to promote the "We demand a new investigation" agenda. It doesn't matter to me whether they are ok with being used in such a way or not. I don't feel they are thinking straight on these matters, and are not in a position to view the situation objectively.
 
chillzero said:
My point was more that calling them names, in view of what they must be going through, is wrong, imo.

I feel that they are being used because their grief, and their need for answers - understandable when loved ones are lost in such horrific circumstances - are being used to promote the "We demand a new investigation" agenda. It doesn't matter to me whether they are ok with being used in such a way or not. I don't feel they are thinking straight on these matters, and are not in a position to view the situation objectively.
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on the other hand it is also totaly wrong to harras other families or witnesses just because they belie they lie or faked fotos.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
the ppl that harrased the woman that took the foto of the smokecloud from flight 93.

also Mark Bingham's mother was called a liar as far i know.
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Can we please keep one thread on topic.

I don't know what you are referring to, but if you decide to be more specific, start a new thread.

I still fail to see the relevance here. I stand by my comments about the Jersey Girls.
 
This is appalling, its like spitting on the graves of these widow`s husbands.I believe if you have anything to say to them , write them an email or something. I`m sure one of their relatives would kindly smash your face. I think you guys crossed the line here.
 
I think you crossed the line Tweeter.
There's no need for vague threats of physical violence. An honest question was asked about who this group was. That was explained, and a few of us have discussed how the group are being treated - by both sides, if you'd care to read the thread.

Anything substantial to contribute?

IMO, this thread has answered the question in the OP, and can maybe be left to drop off. Certainly, there are other threads about the claims and actions of the Jersey Grils that can be reviewed for further information.
 
Tweeter said:
I`m sure one of their relatives would kindly smash your face.
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Multiply them by a few thousand and they'll be equal with the victims' family members who would happily do that to the people in your idiotic movement.

So your point was...?
 
My point like the top of your head, was telling you people to address these women where they will be able to defend themselves. Its not that hard to understand.
 
Oh, The Tweeter is talking about “face smashing” now is he? How intelligent. He must have lost faith in the notion that “the truth is out there”.
 
Hey, can we drop the testosterone levels here a bit?

Tweeter, you are over reacting. Let's keep this thread civil please.
 
BTW it's worth pointing out, before the next truther gets on an inappropriate high horse, that only one person called the Jersey Girls 'nutbars'.

The saying 'driven insane by grief' may be moderately more tactful. As someone else on the thread said, they get a pass; ordinary truthers do not.
 
One you say?
1#Brainster said "Breitweiser has not embraced "Trutherism" unlike Casazza, Kleinberg and Van Auken. I used to assume that the latter were just going along with the Troofers because their interests (a new investigation) coincided, but these days the three remaining Jersey Girls are pretty much nutbar conspiracy theorists, talking about how cellphones can't work, and why did Building 7 collapse and how did the Secret Service know Bush was safe at Booker Elementary."

2#njslm said "My neighbor who lives across the hall in my apartment building lost 2 of her sons who worked for Cantor Fitzgerald in North Tower. I don't hear her whining and spewing out idiotic truther crap...
Real classy lady .....

3# BenBurch said "Ah, only 4.

Truthers made it sound like there were many dozens of them.

So not even a proper subgroup, just a few more nuts in the can.


Do i need to go on Nick Terry??
Sorry chill, but i get upset sometimes. I`ll try to keep it civil.
 
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But I think your upset is misplaced, as it has already been discussed.
 
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