Brand New CT sub-group: No-Sounders

[LastChild]

The fact that the above needs to be pointed out is really quite sad....

What's sad is people who don't know the difference between the sound of a skyscraper collapsing and the sound of a building one tenth the size collapsing. What is even sadder are people who do know the difference but pretend not to.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Sometimes when a long (not tall!) building is demolished there are charges that go off sequentially as the building collapses, there's an example in the CNN video linked.

Interesting. The kind of honesty we cannot expect from somebody else here.

 

[Horatius]

A CD in which some of the explosives are sequenced to go off after one part of the building is already collapsing. Guess what you hear.....


ETA:


And another one, or at least that's what it sounds like to me:

 

[LastChild]

You really do not get this. Why not?

Explosions in a Controlled demolition always occur before the building collapses. The buildings on September 11th had not yet created the sounds of a collapsing skyscraper, obviously, because they had not yet collapsed.

Do you accept this?

Does Gravy? It's his comparison not mine.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

Was the documentary being filmed with a cheap camcorder? Do you know what was being used?

Now, are you saying this camera (Look at that lovely directional mike!) can be inside the north tower as the south tower collapses but not hear the explosions blasting the building out right next to it? Are you honestly saying that?

 

[LastChild]

Sometimes when a long (not tall!) building is demolished there are charges that go off sequentially as the building collapses, there's an example in the CNN video linked.

But you can still hear the charges going off over the collapse sounds!

You and Walrus evidently have something to discuss. And what is your point anyway? If there were explosive devices inside the WTC they only could have gone of one way and at one time?

 

[apathoid]

What's sad is people who don't know the difference between the sound of a skyscraper collapsing and the sound of a building one tenth the size collapsing. What is even sadder are people who do know the difference but pretend not to.

What's even sadder are people who do not understand the relationship between cause and effect. The explosions would preceed the collapse rumbling, because...well....they happened first. Pretty simple concept. Again, the fact that this too has to be pointed out is really quite sad.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

You and Walrus evidently have something to discuss.

We did. I was interested and enlightened by my mistake. You may experience such a thing one day.

 

[WildCat]

You and Walrus evidently have something to discuss. And what is your point anyway? If there were explosive devices inside the WTC they only could have gone of one way and at one time?

Already discussed. But your problem is in every single case of CD, charges must go off prior to the building collapse.

Thus, you're obligated to tell us all what kind of magical microphones you know of that will not register loud sounds but will register quieter ones. Can you do that Mr. Hush-a-boom?

 

[Undesired Walrus]

What's sad is people who don't know the difference between the sound of a skyscraper collapsing and the sound of a building one tenth the size collapsing. What is even sadder are people who do know the difference but pretend not to.

If we can weep a bit more, it is sadder that you think the quantities of explosives involved would be the same as a building one tenth the size needs.

 

[LastChild]

[qimg]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/naudet.jpg[/qimg]

Now, are you saying this camera (Look at that lovely directional mike!) can be inside the north tower as the south tower collapses but not hear the explosions blasting the building out right next to it? Are you honestly saying that?

What I'm saying is I don't know what was used in Gravy's comparison video. Do you? If this was what was used how do you know explosions inside the tower would be picked up over the collapse of the building?

 

[LastChild]

If we can weep a bit more, it is sadder that you think the quantities of explosives involved would be the same as a building one tenth the size needs.

According to the story you believe did the WTC need any explosives to suffer global collapse? But it's either none or tons right?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

What about the people that survived the collapse of WTC 1?

What did they hear before the collapse?

Jonas hustled off to look for a chair (he couldn’t find one). They’d carry her down. That’s when Port Authority officer David Lim ran into Jonas. Lim, a canine officer, had locked his yellow Lab in the South Tower, promising to return, and run to the North Tower to help. Now he was racing down the stairs.



A Port Authority captain yelled at Lim to get moving, but he said, “You go ahead,” and he, too, put an arm around Harris, helping to carry her to the fourth floor.



That was when the wind started, even before the noise. “No one realizes about the wind,” says Komorowski.



The building was pancaking down from the top and, in the process, blasting air down the stairwell. The wind lifted Komorowski off his feet. “I was taking a staircase at a time,” he says, “It was a combination of me running and getting blown down.” Lim says Komorowski flew over him. Eight seconds later—that’s how long it took the building to come down—Komorowski landed three floors lower, in standing position, buried to his knees in pulverized Sheetrock and cement.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/

Not much it seems.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

What I'm saying is I don't know what was used in Gravy's comparison video. Do you? If this was what was used how do you know explosions inside the tower would be picked up over the collapse of the building?

LastChild, Why do you think explosions go off After collapse initiation begins? Because that is mad.

I know we all have trouble registering loud sounds, so the font above is designed to help us all.

 

[LastChild]

What about the people that survived the collapse of WTC 1?

What did they hear before the collapse?



http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/

So what? Now you want to get into what everyone heard or just some people? And for people who did hear explosions you're going to assert what they meant right? As if you know.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

According to the story you believe did the WTC need any explosives to suffer global collapse?

NO.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

So what? Now you want to get into what everyone heard or just some people? And for people who did hear explosions you're going to assert what they meant right? As if you know.

"some people?"

Edited by chillzero: 

Edit for civility

 

[Mancman]

Here's another interesting video. Apparently raw media footage. The first clip is from CBS: (warning, contains rules 10s)


We hear conversations in the background, cars going past, a helicopter more than 1500ft overhead, sirens. WTC2 collapses, no charges are heard and they are perhaps 600ft from the scene and looking directly at it. Whoudathunkit?

 

[LastChild]

LastChild, Why do you think explosions go off After collapse initiation begins? Because that is mad.

I know we all have trouble registering loud sounds, so the font above is designed to help us all.

You need to argue that one with Wildcat. I'm talking about Gravy's movie wtc comparison.

 

[LastChild]

Already discussed. But your problem is in every single case of CD, charges must go off prior to the building collapse.

Thus, you're obligated to tell us all what kind of magical microphones you know of that will not register loud sounds but will register quieter ones. Can you do that Mr. Hush-a-boom?

I want to know how you decipher them from the sounds of a falling skyscraper. And I'm talking about Gravy's video comparison. You haven't answered that.