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Predictive Programming, watching movies with a critical eye

The whole problem with DutchPhil's "analysis" (really, nothing more an identification of elements that fit a specific definition rather than real analysis... but I'm trying to be generous here) is the same problem that so many analysts have committed in the past and continue to commit today: They assume the reading/viewing public is a blank slate to be written on. The mere insertion of propangadistic elements into a story does not automatically mean the reader/viewer will be receptive to it, let alone programmed to be accomodating to it. Whether the elements are capatalistic imagery, such as the ones identified by Ariel Dorfman in "How to Read Donald Duck", or the supposed "governmental control" conditioning that DuthPhil here tries to push, the point is that the primary audience is no more "conditioned" to acceptance of that point of view than they are to the ideas that superheros exist, that computers can be automatically hacked by genius children at a keyboard, or that certain "romantic" acts are truly romantic, attractive ones (Ok, I loooooved "Untamed Heart" because I'm a huge Marisa Tomei fan, and I dig Christian Slater... but ladies, seriously, isn't the fact that "Adam" repeatedly snuck into "Caroline's" room without her knowing rather creepy? Ok, in the context of the film and Adam's lack of human interaction experience, it might be acceptable, but in real life?? Brrrrrrrr (*shudders*)).

In short, the mere insertion of such elements is hardly programming. Especially given the fact that most movies are viewed only a small number of times by any given individual, therefore having little actual "conditioning" value, as mere handfuls of viewings are far from being repetative enough to be "conditioning". And due to the long history of movies, television programs, and other forms of entertainment, most viewers are quite understanding of the line between fiction and fact. So DutchPhil's "analysis" fails, since he like so many others do not account for the fact that most viewers have analytic abilities, as well as a moderately experienced sense of what in TV & movies is fake and what truly reflects a concept, image, or element of the real world.

Nice try, but DutchPhil's doing nothing more than repeating the mistakes of others in the past.
 
OK Mr. Smartpants, do this one.

(And don't think you can distract me with any of those "bountiful penis" comments!)

Superbowl XXXVII

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The Pats offensive line is able to negate the Panther's defensive front 4. From this point on whenever, in the heat of passion a girl, asks Brady if he has "protection" he calls his OL over. This causes children. Also it makes Brady wonder why he keeps hooking up with exhibitionists . :p
 
We ought to have a rule not allowing thread creation until you've made substantive posts in other threads.

I think I'd much prefer the trolling to be obvious and in the open so I know who to ignore immediately.

Or, if you start a thread, and people reply to the OP, and you don't address at least one reply in a reasonable time, the whole thread is deleted.

Again, such obvious troll behavior is only a help when trying to determine who they are. But, besides that, there are a couple of "post and run" threads that have actually spawned interesting discussions, even if it has nothing to do with the OP. If the thread is pointless, it will collapse under its own weight.
 
In some ways, the libertarian science fiction writer David Brin agrees with DutchPhil. Read the section "Propaganda" here. But he points out that while there are many movies that depict possible scenarios that may be the plans of powerful people in the future, almost always are those scenarios portrayed as something to rebel against. Rather than programming us to accept the authoritarian measures depicted in the film, they program us to rebel against them. Never are such measures depicted in a way to familiarise and accept them.

Conspiracy theorists like the guy from the website mentioned in the OP think they are brave individualistic rebels fighting shadowy forces and authoritarian powers. In short, they see themselves as movie heroes. Note also the name of the website: Cutting Through The Matrix. The Matrix! Who has been brainwashed by the movies now?
 
See I was right all along. The Grinch is part of a CT...it is mind control...

Now Dutch, look at my avatar...do not take your eyes off my avatar...you are getting sleepy, very sleepy....

TAM;)
 
Why didn't he mention Star Wars? Or The Lord Of The Rings? If this propaganda is to be successful, surely it would have to be popular and also the the type of film that kids watch over and over again.

Maybe that's it, TPTB are trying to turn a generation of youngsters into people who believe that freedom is important and that things like loyalty and friendship are things to be cherished. The FIENDS!!!
 
I think this thread belongs in conspiracy theories, by the way.
Thanks a lot.
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One of my better English Lit professors told us that you can read anything into any book..or film ..that you wish if you are good enough at dishing out intellectual sounding BS.
Dutch Phil is proof of that.
I really want his analysis of "SWEENEY TODD". That should be a lot of fun. Everyone knows that Tim Burton,Johnny Depp,and Stephan Sondheim work for the New World Order.
 
From Box Office Mojo, here is a list of the top 100 US Box Office grosses, adjusted for inflation:

1 Gone with the Wind
2 Star Wars
3 The Sound of Music
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
5 The Ten Commandments
6 Titanic
7 Jaws
8 Doctor Zhivago
9 The Exorcist
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
11 101 Dalmatians
12 The Empire Strikes Back
13 Ben-Hur
14 Return of the Jedi
15 The Sting
16 Raiders of the Lost Ark
17 Jurassic Park
18 The Graduate
19 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
20 Fantasia
21 The Godfather
22 Forrest Gump
23 Mary Poppins
24 The Lion King
25 Grease
26 Thunderball
27 The Jungle Book
28 Sleeping Beauty
29 Shrek 2
30 Ghostbusters
31 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
32 Love Story
33 Spider-Man
34 Independence Day
35 Home Alone
36 Pinocchio
37 Cleopatra (1963)
38 Beverly Hills Cop
39 Goldfinger
40 Airport
41 American Graffiti
42 The Robe
43 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
44 Around the World in 80 Days
45 Bambi
46 Blazing Saddles
47 Batman
48 The Bells of St. Mary's
49 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
50 The Towering Inferno
51 Spider-Man 2
52 My Fair Lady
53 The Greatest Show on Earth
54 National Lampoon's Animal House
55 The Passion of the Christ
56 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
57 Back to the Future
58 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
59 The Sixth Sense
60 Superman
61 Tootsie
62 Smokey and the Bandit
63 Finding Nemo
64 West Side Story
65 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
66 Lady and the Tramp
67 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
68 Lawrence of Arabia
69 The Rocky Horror Picture Show
70 Rocky
71 The Best Years of Our Lives
72 The Poseidon Adventure
73 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
74 Twister
75 Men in Black
76 The Bridge on the River Kwai
77 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
78 Swiss Family Robinson
79 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
80 M.A.S.H.
81 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
82 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
83 Mrs. Doubtfire
84 Aladdin
85 Ghost
86 Duel in the Sun
87 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
88 House of Wax
89 Rear Window
90 The Lost World: Jurassic Park
91 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
92 Spider-Man 3
93 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
94 Sergeant York
95 How the Grinch Stole Christmas
96 Toy Story 2
97 Top Gun
98 Shrek
99 Shrek the Third
100 Transformers

Work your critical magic on these, DutchPhil.
 
Predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by TPTB. If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as 'natural progressions', as Alan Watt(*) calls it; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion. Predictive programming therefore may be considered as a veiled form of preemptive mass manipulation or mind control, courtesy of our puppet masters.
(*)www dot cuttingthroughthematrix dot com/
I have seen this total junk somewhere before! Where? Which banned poster was spewing this junk before? http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ Chemtrails and all! Ahhhhhh
 
Get a life. They're just stories. Filmmakers make them because they enjoy telling stories. Producers fund them because they like making money. Neither belong to the New World Order.

-Gumboot
 
I have seen this total junk somewhere before! Where? Which banned poster was spewing this junk before? http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ Chemtrails and all! Ahhhhhh

It was matrixcutter, although he hasn't been banned.

Here are a couple of his threads:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92989
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92987

ETA: And this spam-fest that went straight to AAH:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93036
 
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This thread is reinforcing my belief that watching nothing but porn is the best solution!
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Man, another post-and-run job? He's not going to stick around and play? Too bad, this one might have been a lot of fun.

Oh, and do Kung Pow! - Enter the Fist! Please! I want to see you do Master Pain/Betty!
 

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