Micro Spheres in world trade center dust solved.

Max Photon said:
Apollo20, (and Steven if you're reading this),


For the sake of discussion, let's say the iron microspheres WERE formed from thermite planted in the WTCs.

How did Si get in the iron microspheres?


Max
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I would tell you, however it is classified military tech that I am not supposed to know it has to do with the complication of mixing nano particles.
PS. after I tell you I can also not allow you to live to tell anyone else. :D
 
Could someone kindly forward the link to the Physorg forum where Jones and Greening will discuss this further, when it becomes available. I would be interested in being a silent but interested spectator.

TAM:)
 
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most likely here (can't post links): forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=12383&st=8475, the latest page.
 
Thanks ORE.

Am I correct in assuming you are One White Eye over there, or is that your Nemesis?

TAM:)
 
Max Photon said:
Apollo20, (and Steven if you're reading this),


For the sake of discussion, let's say the iron microspheres WERE formed from thermite planted in the WTCs.

How did Si get in the iron microspheres?


I have put forth the notion that thermite was planted in some perimeter box columns at impact floors. I have describes several possible modes, ranging from just a little thermite to heat the bolts, to columns packed with thermite so that the (not-welded) bolt-access-hole covers would pop off from internal pressure upon ignition of the thermite, and the burning content would be spewed out onto piles of debris (thereby creating some of the long-lived, energetic "fires on piles of debris").

But why wouldn't the thermite burn through the bottom of the column?

Somewhere in the debris field that is my writings is a scenario in which the box columns were filled with sand or silica to the bottom of the lower bolt-access-hole (so there is about a foot of sand in the column). Thermite was then packed on top. When the thermite was ignited by All-Weather Max Photon-brand Thermite Fuse right near the bolt-access-hole, pressure popped off the cover, and the column became like a bulk thermite dispenser.

I have proposed that WTC2's 10-minute metal fire - which is located exactly at Column 301/81's bolt-access-hole - is in fact burning thermite being spewed onto the collected debris. (Note that the burn front is outside of the column, or right at the hole. Little thermite burns inside the column.)

The sand or silica source next to the burning thermite might account for:
  1. Thermite being able to be packed in columns, without melting the columns;
  2. Si being found in the iron microspheres (which formed as the thermite burned AND as the towers collapsed and dispersed molten material);
  3. No evidence of iron in the bottom of the columns (not that anyone looked).
Not TAM simple, but hey, even Apollo20 said the formation of iron microspheres (Now with Si ! ) below iron's melting point of 1536 C is a - Class? - that's right - a "complex process."


(I really have quite an imagination, don't I?)


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Max, have you noticed that, as the discussion between Dr. Greening and Steven Jones is a scientific discussion, you just don't have anything to contribute? No, you haven't.

Come to think of it, Jones isn't cutting a more impressive figure than Max is and he is supposed to be a real scientist.
 
pomeroo said:
Max, have you noticed that, as the discussion between Dr. Greening and Steven Jones is a scientific discussion, you just don't have anything to contribute? No, you haven't.

Come to think of it, Jones isn't cutting a more impressive figure than Max is and he is supposed to be a real scientist.
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If Dr. Greening told me that something was about to explode and I could save myself by jumping over a cliff to the water below, I would jump.
If Dr. Jones told me that something was going to explode and I could save myself by walking across the street, I would remain on the side of the street where I stood or walk toward the expected explosion.
Dr. Jones could have saved me months if not years of work and experimentation just by saying in public that what he found was Iron oxide Fe304 Magnetite.
I am betting his chips are maghemite or Hemite, I know they are Fe203 with an aluminum like material, from posts on other forums.
I think were seeing the chemistry that I have already noticed in experiments.

I have spent years trying to produce solid Iron spheres with sulfur in them when I produce magnetite micro spheres by accident thousands and thousands and thousands of times.
I made the mistake of believing that Dr. Jones was a serious scientist too that he knew what he was talking about when he said the micro spheres could only be produced at 1565c I was indeed wrong.
I could have already solved the floor pan puzzle if I had spent more time concentrating on that than on the micro spheres.
As for the chips,
Magnetite reacts with aluminum silicates to form thin chips the oxidation of magnetite to magnhemite turns them red, and they are red on one side, and Grey aluminum silicate on the other.
This would be humorous if it were not such a useless waste of time.
I would much rather be blowing things up in models of the floor conduits that is where the real chemical action is.
 
I'll be sure to have your NWO handler provide you with a more exciting assignment the moment this current one is completed...you know what to do...

TAM;)
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
If Dr. Greening told me that something was about to explode and I could save myself by jumping over a cliff to the water below, I would jump.
If Dr. Jones told me that something was going to explode and I could save myself by walking across the street, I would remain on the side of the street where I stood or walk toward the expected explosion.
Dr. Jones could have saved me months if not years of work and experimentation just by saying in public that what he found was Iron oxide Fe304 Magnetite.
I am betting his chips are maghemite or Hemite, I know they are Fe203 with an aluminum like material, from posts on other forums.
I think were seeing the chemistry that I have already noticed in experiments.

I have spent years trying to produce solid Iron spheres with sulfur in them when I produce magnetite micro spheres by accident thousands and thousands and thousands of times.
I made the mistake of believing that Dr. Jones was a serious scientist too that he knew what he was talking about when he said the micro spheres could only be produced at 1565c I was indeed wrong.
I could have already solved the floor pan puzzle if I had spent more time concentrating on that than on the micro spheres.
As for the chips,
Magnetite reacts with aluminum silicates to form thin chips the oxidation of magnetite to magnhemite turns them red, and they are red on one side, and Grey aluminum silicate on the other.
This would be humorous if it were not such a useless waste of time.
I would much rather be blowing things up in models of the floor conduits that is where the real chemical action is.
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CC, my problem is that I really don't know what to make of Jones. I get the impression that he tailors his science to his agenda, but why is he promoting an agenda in the first place? I confess that I don't know much about him, beyond the information that is available, well, everywhere. Thomas Eagar, the MIT metallurgy professor, objected when I suggested that nobody who writes a book about Jesus' visit to the Americas can be much of a critical thinker. It isn't my purpose to mock another person's religious faith, but I stand by what I said. So, why is this guy hell-bent on proving that 9/11 was an inside job? Why is he willing to disgrace himself in the eyes of his colleagues to advance theories that are obviously wrong-headed? I have the same problem with Morgan Reynolds. Okay, he hates Bush with a passion--how does it hurt your devil-figure to make a horse's ass of yourself?
 
At first I found it annoying, now I think that it might be significant the Jones giggles a lot when he talks.

Nervous habit or a sign that maybe there is some deeper mental process at work here?

Maybe he doesn't believe this crap himself, or is a fraid he will be found out for a liar or a moron?

Maybe losing his marbles?
 
pomeroo said:
CC, my problem is that I really don't know what to make of Jones. I get the impression that he tailors his science to his agenda, but why is he promoting an agenda in the first place??
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Go back and view the "C-Span Debacle". S. Jones giggles about how many friends he has made, since getting involved with da twoof! Creepy as all get out!
Some people just wanna dance!
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
I would tell you, however it is classified military tech that I am not supposed to know it has to do with the complication of mixing nano particles.
PS. after I tell you I can also not allow you to live to tell anyone else. :D
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You must be careful with that info Chainsaw.(here comes the woo) Max has said there is a super secret organization whose specialty is Military Deception. In other words, 9/11 was a set up by those who pull the strings. So the information you have that's not been totally revealed is something they don't want anyone to discover. Keep your senses heightened and be keenly aware of your surroundings (end of the woo).
 
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Thanks, Frank

Frank, thanks for your compilation of info.

I participate in a forum with Steven Jones at stj911.


Could I present your e-mail exchange over in that forum for discussion with the folks at the Scholars for 9-11 Truth & Justice?

Please do keep up the quality research.
 
Apollo20 said:
And on the topic of Si in commercial thermite, I was always under the impression that thermite is a mixture of finely divided iron oxide and aluminum with small amounts of accelerants/oxidizers based on K, Mn Sr or Ba compounds. You, on the other hand, claim this is NOT the case simply because you detected Si in your thermite combustion residues. Did you carry out your thermite tests in a sand pit? I ask this question not to be facetious; I simply wonder why anyone would add a silicon compound to thermite! Anyway, please provide a reference for your assertion that thermite usually contains Si - a manufacturer's analysis sheet would be helpful in this regard.....
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* Do any of your contacts have facilities with which they could study the red/gray chips? (And microspheres, for that matter.)

* Also, did you check out the physorg article re detonators on a chip?
http://www.physorg.com/news117207324.html

While we still don't know the details of the particular chips that Professor Jones spoke about, the physorg article tells us that
That will be possible, in part, because hundreds of fuzes, each about a centimeter square, can be fabricated simultaneously using techniques developed by the microelectronics industry.
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If, indeed, chips with superthermite on one side, were fabricated "using techniques developed by the microelectronics industry", I would think that the presence of Si would be unsurprising. Is it correct or incorrect that any microspheres resulting from ignition of same would also have some Si? Another way of phrasing this question is: if thermite is configured as a layer, resting on yet another layer which contains a Si substrate, would not some Si get mixed in with Fe in a microsphere which results from ignition?

Of course, this argument says nothing about Ca, K, etc.

* Finally, please speak to how one would determine exact chemical composition of microspheres and chips.
 
I'm still waiting for somone to explain how these chips, if they are thermite, would useful for anything in a building demolition. They would be all burned up befre transferring the slightest heat to a steel column.
 
metamars said:
* Do any of your contacts have facilities with which they could study the red/gray chips? (And microspheres, for that matter.)

* Also, did you check out the physorg article re detonators on a chip?
http://www.physorg.com/news117207324.html

While we still don't know the details of the particular chips that Professor Jones spoke about, the physorg article tells us that

If, indeed, chips with superthermite on one side, were fabricated "using techniques developed by the microelectronics industry", I would think that the presence of Si would be unsurprising. Is it correct or incorrect that any microspheres resulting from ignition of same would also have some Si? Another way of phrasing this question is: if thermite is configured as a layer, resting on yet another layer which contains a Si substrate, would not some Si get mixed in with Fe in a microsphere which results from ignition?

Of course, this argument says nothing about Ca, K, etc.

* Finally, please speak to how one would determine exact chemical composition of microspheres and chips.
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:D metamars Check out Gas sensor electrodes, Ferric Chlorides deposition of magnetite.

Depositing Fe304 on silicon is a well known process, now if I want to arrange small Nano particles and get them evenly divided would it not be easier to adhere them to a substrate and use the magnetic properties of one in a fluid to do it?

I can not say more, as I said I am not supposed to know this for an important reason.
 
pomeroo said:
CC, my problem is that I really don't know what to make of Jones. I get the impression that he tailors his science to his agenda, but why is he promoting an agenda in the first place? I confess that I don't know much about him, beyond the information that is available, well, everywhere. Thomas Eagar, the MIT metallurgy professor, objected when I suggested that nobody who writes a book about Jesus' visit to the Americas can be much of a critical thinker. It isn't my purpose to mock another person's religious faith, but I stand by what I said. So, why is this guy hell-bent on proving that 9/11 was an inside job? Why is he willing to disgrace himself in the eyes of his colleagues to advance theories that are obviously wrong-headed? I have the same problem with Morgan Reynolds. Okay, he hates Bush with a passion--how does it hurt your devil-figure to make a horse's ass of yourself?
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Of course Prof. Eagar objected you insulted the book of Mormon and the whole Mormon faith.
Why would a Mormon object to that?
I would say the scholars for truth are not what they claim to be. It looks like they are more of a political Libertarian movement than anything that has to do with science.
Either that or they really believe what they claim because they do not have the ability to comes to grips with reality.
I have spoken with Dr. Jones only once and that gave me more incite than any of his scientific papers, he was clueless about aluminum reactions.
 
So I got to thinking "silicon'....."chips"...

I googled every solid-state electronics componant I could think of. "Capacitor" led me to something called a "Metalic Oxide Semi-conductor Field Effect Transistor," or MOSFET.

So, basicly, it seems there might be a few gizmos that have some small chip of something red interacting with something grey or silvery all over the towers. Just a thought that hit me. I don't know this sort of thing at all well.

Could these chips be just parts of chewed-up computers and such?

http://ece-www.colorado.edu/~bart/book/book/chapter7/ch7_1htm
 
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