Twoofers Only: The Mark Roberts Factual Error Thread

[funk de fino]

I saw this after my last post.

Well granted if he went around claiming he was a firefighter then that is wrong. But he was there right and his story about the black boxes is the same as the firefighter who said they found three out of four no?

No, he claims he only saw one of them (apparently)

 

[Belz...]

Once Swing and I get through with Gravy's work, there won't be anything left to pick.

Oh, this'll come back to bite you!

Not surprisingly, Gravy is going to wait to change his paper

Yeah, that's what we tend to do: improve upon previous work.

Without diesel fuel, Gravy will have to eliminate a whole section of his paper.

Assuming that this is removed from the final NIST report, right ?

 

[Gravy]

OMG! I'm going to have to alter a page that states a hope that more information will be forthcoming in NIST's final WTC 7 report, when more information is forthcoming in NIST's final WTC 7 report?

Whatever will I do?

It's hilarious that this concept is abhorrent to 9/11 deniers. Wait: no, it's sad.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Are these guys brain damaged? Do they not understand what the word align means? Do why not understand that the comment is not making a claim that the fuel tanks played a part but merely pointing out that it's one possibility? And that the only reason for bringing it up is that the report is not yet out on WTC7. The only thing we really know for sure is that there has been no evidence what so ever found to suggest foul play in the collapse of WTC 7.

 

[Malmoesoldier]

OMG! I'm going to have to alter a page that states a hope that more information will be forthcoming in NIST's final WTC 7 report, when more information is forthcoming in NIST's final WTC 7 report?

Whatever will I do?

It's hilarious that this concept is abhorrent to 9/11 deniers. Wait: no, it's sad.

I wonder why you dont do a paper titled "Questions about 9-11 the government hasnt awnsered" because there are quite ALOT of questions that hasnt been awnsered.

Instead you make a paper that trys to debunk stuff (im sure you have found some mistakes and debunked theme) and then when your paper is finished you give the impression that why the towers fell has been explained when in reality the cause of the collapse hasnt been explained. anyone that says "NIST has proved the cause of the collapse with 100% evidence" is a lier.

So what a sane person that has looked into 9-11 would say instead of 100% of the time trying to debunk stuff would be "We need a new investigation into 911 because there are many unanswered questions, and the cause of the collapse of the towers hasnt been explaind" that is what a sane/honest person would say.

 

[Gravy]

Malmoe, you don't even know what paper is being referred to. You're making crap up. You embarrass yourself further with every post. Just stop. Deliberate ignorance is bad.

 

[Corsair 115]

Malmoe, you don't even know what paper is being referred to. You're making crap up. You embarrass yourself further with every post. Just stop. Deliberate ignorance is bad.

Well, he is the same guy who started a thread about how the UN/NWO is secretly conspiring to wipe out 80% of the world's population.

 

[Malmoesoldier]

Malmoe, you don't even know what paper is being referred to. You're making crap up. You embarrass yourself further with every post. Just stop. Deliberate ignorance is bad.

Im just saying you should be honest and do a paper about all the unanswered questions, and dont make it look like the cause of the collapse of the towers is explained.

Well, he is the same guy who started a thread about how the UN/NWO is secretly conspiring to wipe out 80% of the world's population.

You are the guy that dont understand simple text you read?. Im sure you also thinks the human population has exceeded earth's biosphere capacity and that we cant be this many people right? that is not propaganda it is true right? and we should be around 1 billion right? and NSSM 200 doesnt talk about reducing the population in the third world by letting theme starve , etc etc, Right... Dont you people ever give up and just admit to yourself that something with your mind and the way you see the world dont seems right? because you give words new meanings all the time, an intelligent sane person wouldnt do that, would they?. First step, turn OFF the television.

 

[T.A.M.]

Im just saying you should be honest and do a paper about all the unanswered questions, and dont make it look like the cause of the collapse of the towers is explained.



You are the guy that dont understand simple text you read?. Im sure you also thinks the human population has exceeded earth's biosphere capacity and that we cant be this many people right? that is not propaganda it is true right? and we should be around 1 billion right? and NSSM 200 doesnt talk about reducing the population in the third world by letting theme starve , etc etc, Right... Dont you people ever give up and just admit to yourself that something with your mind and the way you see the world dont seems right? because you give words new meanings all the time, an intelligent sane person wouldnt do that, would they?. First step, turn OFF the television.

Yes and it is your crowd that believes in space aliens, bigfoot, Nessie, Pearl Harbour was an inside job, 9/11 was an inside job, etc...what is your point?

First step, TURN OFF THE PARANOIA!!!

TAM

 

[Corsair 115]

You are the guy that dont understand simple text you read?. Im sure you also thinks the human population has exceeded earth's biosphere capacity and that we cant be this many people right? that is not propaganda it is true right? and we should be around 1 billion right? and NSSM 200 doesnt talk about reducing the population in the third world by letting theme starve , etc etc, Right... Dont you people ever give up and just admit to yourself that something with your mind and the way you see the world dont seems right? because you give words new meanings all the time, an intelligent sane person wouldnt do that, would they?. First step, turn OFF the television.

Roffle! You've got a thread for that already. I even linked to it!

By the way, the rant of yours above only makes Gravy's comment seem even more accurate.

 

[A W Smith]

Yes and it is your crowd that believes in space aliens, bigfoot, Nessie, Pearl Harbour was an inside job, 9/11 was an inside job, etc...what is your point?

First step, TURN OFF THE PARANOIA!!!

TAM

Malmoe lost the remote control for the paranoia when it fell between the cushions of the sofa that was repossessed by the furniture rental company.

 

[Malmoesoldier]

Yes and it is your crowd that believes in space aliens, bigfoot, Nessie, Pearl Harbour was an inside job, 9/11 was an inside job, etc...what is your point?

First step, TURN OFF THE PARANOIA!!!

TAM

No my crowd does not belive in bigfoot Nessie. space aliens? offcourse there exist aliens somewhere, maybe humans even?. everybody today believes that, its the question if they have already visited earth that some dont believe, but we do KNOW that if the government made contact they wouldnt tell anything about it.

They knew the attack on pearl harbor was coming 12 days before and did nothing. You cant say anything that will make that okey, that is a rule in war you DONT put your soldiers in danger WITHOUT their permission.

When you talk about 911 you lie, you are not honest. you talk like there is proof of what caused the collapse, and you ignore all the unawnsered questions. First step for you, start beeing honest.

Roffle! You've got a thread for that already. I even linked to it!

By the way, the rant of yours above only makes Gravy's comment seem even more accurate.

The people in that thread are very weak/scared people. yes i have that thread and it is full with facts, anyone that dont agrees with that and states that they think we should reduce they have no future on this planet [edited]

Be civil and polite.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[DGM]

Malmoe:
Because you don't seem to have an English to Swedish dictionary:

fact
6 entries found.

factfact-checkfact finderfact of lifematter[1,noun]matter-of-fact



Main Entry: fact
Pronunciation: \ˈfakt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin factum, from neuter of factus, past participle of facere
Date: 15th century
1: a thing done: as aobsolete : feat b: crime <accessory after the fact> carchaic : action
2archaic : performance, doing
3: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
— in fact : in truth

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fact

 

[beachnut]

No my crowd does not belive in bigfoot Nessie. space aliens? offcourse there exist aliens somewhere, maybe humans even?. everybody today believes that, its the question if they have already visited earth that some dont believe, but we do KNOW that if the government made contact they wouldnt tell anything about it.

They knew the attack on pearl harbor was coming 12 days before and did nothing. You cant say anything that will make that okey, that is a rule in war you DONT put your soldiers in danger WITHOUT their permission.

When you talk about 911 you lie, you are not honest. you talk like there is proof of what caused the collapse, and you ignore all the unawnsered questions. First step for you, start beeing honest.

The people in that thread are very weak/scared people. yes i have that thread and it is full with facts, anyone that dont agrees with that and states that they think we should reduce they have no future on this planet.[edited]

No facts on 9/11, add that with your income tax ignorance, and you have a long way to go to be rational on 9/11 and other subject. You have decided not to learn, but spew lies. Bad choice.

You can not even stay on topic; is that because you have no clue what happen on 9/11?

 

[T.A.M.]

No my crowd does not belive in bigfoot Nessie. space aliens? offcourse there exist aliens somewhere, maybe humans even?. everybody today believes that, its the question if they have already visited earth that some dont believe, but we do KNOW that if the government made contact they wouldnt tell anything about it.

They knew the attack on pearl harbor was coming 12 days before and did nothing. You cant say anything that will make that okey, that is a rule in war you DONT put your soldiers in danger WITHOUT their permission.

When you talk about 911 you lie, you are not honest. you talk like there is proof of what caused the collapse, and you ignore all the unawnsered questions. First step for you, start beeing honest.



The people in that thread are very weak/scared people. yes i have that thread and it is full with facts, anyone that dont agrees with that and states that they think we should reduce they have no future on this planet. [edit]

While you may not believe in Bigfoot and Nessie, I would put money on a larger percentage of the truther nuts believing it then the general populous. You seem wishie washie about the alien issue. And as for "everyone believing" their are aliens somewhere, you seem to be ignoring a lot of religious people who may beg to differ. I am not saying they are right, but your statement that EVERYONE believes there are aliens somewhere, is likely incorrect.

As for the rest...that's your paranoia, not mine...good luck with it.

TAM

 

[Malmoesoldier]

No facts on 9/11, add that with your income tax ignorance, and you have a long way to go to be rational on 9/11 and other subject. You have decided not to learn, but spew lies. Bad choice.

You can not even stay on topic; is that because you have no clue what happen on 9/11?

Been to your therapy today?. you where in war right? you probably needed much therapy after you had fighted for the dark side.

While you may not believe in Bigfoot and Nessie, I would put money on a larger percentage of the truther nuts believing it then the general populous. You seem wishie washie about the alien issue. And as for "everyone believing" their are aliens somewhere, you seem to be ignoring a lot of religious people who may beg to differ. I am not saying they are right, but your statement that EVERYONE believes there are aliens somewhere, is likely incorrect.

As for the rest...that's your paranoia, not mine...good luck with it.

TAM

Yes that is true, some religious people dont belive in it. that is something i cant understand, why would they call some other intelligent humans/aliens from a nother planet anything other then alien, they just like to use words that fits their religion more.

No i am not paranoid for demanding answers of unanswered questions, that is something any sane person would do, but some people is not interested in the truth and think they know what happen without evidence to prove it, and because some people think like that and dont demand answers of unanswered questions etc, people like hitler gets into power.

And there is nothing you can say that makes pearl harbor okey, if you agree with that decision not to tell the soldiers anything you are evil.

 

[beachnut]

Been to your therapy today?. you where in war right? you probably needed much therapy after you had fighted for the dark side.

Yes that is true, some religious people dont belive in it. that is something i cant understand, why would they call some other intelligent humans/aliens from a nother planet anything other then alien, they just like to use words that fits their religion more.

No i am not paranoid for demanding answers of unanswered questions, that is something any sane person would do, but some people is not interested in the truth and think they know what happen without evidence to prove it, and because some people think like that and dont demand answers of unanswered questions etc, people like hitler gets into power.

And there is nothing you can say that makes pearl harbor okey, if you agree with that decisions not to tell the soldiers anything you are evil.

You are off topic; the only people who act like hitler are people not smart enough to understand 9/11, and income tax! Ignorance of 9/11 and income tax are you primary attributes. You have failed on 9/11 and income tax, do you have anything on the topic, an error you would like to point out in Mark's work? Well do you? Bet you can not keep on topic! You will not fail me, your next post will have off topic content! (mil is mine)

So do I get a mil or not? NOT…
I told you! You have no rational question or ideas on 9/11, and you will post far out junk already debunked to the nth degree.

Back to topic or our posts will end up in AAH! So back to errors, is it still at zero errors found and supported in fact, yet a bunch of woo and off topic crap like me. Zero errors?

 

[Malmoesoldier]

You are off topic; the only people who act like hitler are people not smart enough to understand 9/11, and income tax! Ignorance of 9/11 and income tax are you primary attributes. You have failed on 9/11 and income tax, do you have anything on the topic, an error you would like to point out in Mark's work? Well do you? Bet you can not keep on topic! You will not fail me, your next post will have off topic content! (mil is mine)

Its TAM and the others that is offtopic, they state things like "you think pear harbor was an inside job" etc when i hadnt said anything about it. Im just answering their offtopic bs with the truth.

You think the cause of the collapse is explained in the NIST report right?. if thats the case then you are a lier or havnt read the NIST report. And there are many other questions sourounding 9-11 that hasnt been awnsered like why the refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/08/politics/08graham.html

 

[Gravy]

yes i have that thread and it is full with facts, anyone that dont agrees with that and states that they think we should reduce they have no future on this planet.[edit]

Anyone who supports population reduction should be killed!

 

[beachnut]

Its TAM and the others that is offtopic, they state things like "you think pear harbor was an inside job" etc when i hadnt said anything about it. Im just answering their offtopic bs with the truth.

You think the cause of the collapse is explained in the NIST report right?. if thats the case then you are a lier or havnt read the NIST report. And there are many other questions sourounding 9-11 that hasnt been awnsered like why the refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/08/politics/08graham.html

As predicted by me, you are posting off topic. You are so ignorant on 9/11 topics you have to post tripe off topic? Why are you so ignorant on 9/11? ESL?

But your post is political tripe, ie. it should be posted under politics. Except it has CT, bizarre CT ideas! So!

Mr. Graham made the accusation in a new book and repeated it at a news conference Tuesday arranged by Senator John Kerry's presidential campaign. Republicans called the accusations "bizarre conspiracy theories," and the Saudis said they were unsubstantiated and reckless.

You are talking about a book! And here the book is being pushed by political BS! Do you understand any of this. BTW, it is funny, the whole article if funny when you think about it. Ironic!

OK, everyone. This thread is for Xena, Swing, RedIbis, and any other Truther who wants to jump in here.

For the purposes of this thread, we'll assume that I am a fencesitter on all things 9/11. I stand willing to be persuaded on any matter.

What I would like to see is independent confirmation of an error that Mark Roberts has made. That is, I want to see just exactly where he's gone wrong. It's very simple, really; just say "Mark Roberts said X (link), but the truth is actually Y(link)."

I will accept no opinion pieces; I'm a skeptic after all. I want to see verifiable facts. Anything posted will be checked for accuracy and context.

Go to it. I'm waiting.

Here is the opening post, please try to post something on this and stop trashing the thread with your nonsensical post; this is not the comedy forum. Try hard to bring facts next time.