Taken out of context, accusatory and inflammatory.
You have been reported and will continue to be so for every additional time you make these empty personal attacks.
No, as long as people want sex and have money, they may be willing to trade money for sex, but you still need the supplier, the people without money, the people whose poverty makes them so willing to disregard that they don’t feel attracted to the person with money.
Where there is demand and sufficient willingness to pay there will be a supplier. And it does not have anything to do with poverty. It has to do with what someone is willing to do for a given amount of money. It involved personal ethics, values, willingness to take risks, feelings on sex, availability of alternatives and so on. You have no right to speak for anyone who makes such a choice.
This aspect of the ‘profession’, by the way, is the main reason why prostitutes need drugs even if drugs weren’t the thing that made them turn tricks to begin with. This, by the way, is what I already said in my post: “ he problem, by the way, is not 'people's' willingness to pay for sex but the poverty that drive some 'people' to sell it ...”
That's speculation. It may even be true in many cases, but you have zero right to speak for those who may choose such a profession. Doubtless there are some who regret it or feel they have been forced into it by lack of choices. This could be said for numerous other jobs. It is unfortunate but a reality.
No, not to me. It’s not a question of the ‘importance’, however. What you are willing to expose prostitutes to is a different question …
What *I* am willing to expose anyone to is not an issue. What a person is willing to expose themselves to is. Ideally, I'd like such a person to have as much precautionary and safety measures as reasonably possible taken. Doubtless, there is still risk. There's also risk in North Atlantic fishing which is one reason it pays so much. *I* don't think I have the right to tell others what risks are reasonable and what constitutes a fair and good job.
There have been attempts to make a society free from want in which every person is set and taken care of and never feels need for money or feels social unfairness. You might remember one of them... they had to build a really big wall to keep everyone from fleeing
In any case, I doubt even the most progressive socialists would claim it's possible to have everyone live in such a lap of luxury that they would never ever desire any additional money or possessions. At least, that's not possible without some very very heavy social engineering. It's never even come close to working...EVER.
Not more impossible than your idealized brothels. But dreaming of making a profit from the misfortune of women (and men) is much more realistic, right?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3087926#post3087926
The tone of that is accusatory and the accusations are ad-hom and unfounded.
You have been reported and will continue to be reported for every additional attack of this nature.
You are making a great assumption when you state "misfortune" of women and men. Where do you get off being the spokesperson for everyone who's been taken advantage of?
I happen to have a friend who was a stripper for a long time. The same has been said of that job taking advantage of people. I asked her if she ever felt used or like a piece of meat. She told me that occasionally she had a bad night, but in general she *liked* the job. She said she actually felt like she was empowered because she was able to just flirt with a guy and get him to cough up lots of money. She said that she really thought it was a great job because she made gobs or money and it was easy and had relatively short hours. She could afford a pretty nice place based on the money. And she does not regret it. The only reason she left was that she wanted a job she could keep into her older years so she got an education. She said she honestly would do it if she could because it was good money and easy.
Is this universal? Certainly not. Did she have nights where some guys made her feel crappy? Sure, occasionally. She chose the job and had a better standard of living because of it. I don't even know if maybe she was lying about not minding it, but I'm not going to pretend to get into someone's head. There are people who don't feel like she did or don't see it as beneficial. But you have no right to speak for someone who goes into a job at a strip club, a brothel, a porn studio, a coal mine, a fishing boat, a corporate office or anywhere they choose.
It's absolutely reprehensible to claim to be the one who can make the better decision or who helps them by benovelantly taking away the option. The statements made toward those who might see this as a necessary or advantageous choice are disgusting and extremely judgmental.
Yes, and how come you seem to enjoy the fact? Because you see people willing to let themselves be exploited as a business opportunity?
If somebody wants to sell sex and they think it's a fair trade and have gotten sufficient money in return then yes, I am happy to see that as I am with any mutually beneficial business transaction. Exploitation? Absolutely not. Nobody should be expoited or forced into anything. That's not the same issue and you are well aware of this.
In the end, if it is such a bad decision then the best thing to do is to inform those who would do it to the consequences. You cannot go around protecting people from themselves. It in no way helps to take away the option which will force them to do so illegally.
But it appears to be yours, right?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3087926#post3087926
OK, suit yourself, prostitution fan.
You have been reported and will continue to be so for every additional time you make these empty personal attacks.
Literally any? What is your argument here? That sleeping with legalized prostitutes is better …. for the johns? That the prostitutes should be made safer for the consumers? In general the johns are not the ones who suffer …
Don't tell me who is suffering. You cannot speak for anyone. Your assertions are very offensive, judgmental and generally reflect very very poorly on you, but that's just my opinion.... as opposed to your statement which is a clear violation of forum policy
I did not think that you do. I don’t care much for your Martini argument!
Yeah I understand that. It's a pretty good analogy which is hard to refute and it's based on something observed in the real world in a parallel situation. That must make it really suck for you, eh?
