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Richard Gage to debate CD on Toronto radio show

I listened for an hour and forty minutes and then gave up.

Unfortunately, I don't think anyone coming to the show without any predisposition to believe either side would have been convinced of the falsity of the "Truther" side.

Debates like this just don't work. One side says, "Blah, blah, blah" and the other says, "Halb, halb halb", and unless you have considerable understanding and knowledge you just can't evaluate either.

I found Gage pretty funny and had heard (or read) it all before (thank you JREFF). Craig was good in his areas of expertise but sort of trailed off in other areas.
 
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I checked the site and they don't appear to have the show available for download. but I did note this in the schedule for the program last night:

"RICHARD GAGE, Architect, California-based designer of fire-proofed, steel-framed skyscrapers, Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth."

To my knowlege, Gage has never designed anything higher than a food court Sbarro.
 
"RICHARD GAGE, Architect, California-based designer of fire-proofed, steel-framed skyscrapers, Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth."

He fire-proofs his steel skyscrapers? Why? Fire can't melt steel, right?
 
Gage: "No macroscopic chunks of concrete were found at the base of the twin towers".

Oh my God! He is channeling Judy Wood now!
 
I am tired of this crap. What, 2-3 minutes in, the host asks Gage to cite two to three points that convince him of CD, and what does Gage do? Answer the question like a rational adult? No, he immediately uses the radio show as a mouth piece for the movement...

(Paraphrase of Gage)
"there are millions of people in the United states that believe there is something wrong with what we were told...let me quote a poll for you..."

I have heard enough. If there is anything within it worth talking about, someone else listen to it and bring it up...

TAM
 
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I noticed that too. Who knew that science was decided by a public opinion poll.
 
From the 911bloer page:

I won’t spoil the surprise. But I will say that the debate went very well and is yet another indication of good things to come for 9/11 truth!
 
Gage blows that pathetic "we have lost our freedoms" horn. What freedoms has he lost???

Volcanic mushroom cloud???? This dude is stuttering like Porky Pig
 
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I am glad I wear my hair real short...hard to pull it out, and god knows that audio gives me ample reason.

TAM:)
 
Oh God, I can't beleive he mentioned Marvin Bush!!! This dude is Jason Bermas minus that gapped front teeth!
 
Oh God, I can't beleive he mentioned Marvin Bush!!! This dude is Jason Bermas minus that gapped front teeth!

Even more bizarre is he claims Marvin Bush's company took over WTC security 6 weeks before 9/11. The least they could do is lie consistently, every time I hear this claim it changes.
 
Wow, Richard Gage is dumb.



No, he has a survival instinct. After he expressed interest in appearing on 'Hardfire' and I sent him links to Mark's debates with Fetzer and the Boys, he asked my producer to conduct the interview.
 
Towards the end, I heard Craig reference some collapse model by (what sounded like) the University of Honolulu, does anyone know what he is referring to?
 
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I sent the following message to the clowns at ae911truth.org:

"Richard Gage believes that thermite was "heard."
What is being heard is the laughter of
rationalists all over the world. Gage's
charlatanry was exposed by Ron Craig last night.
The spectacle provides useful insight into the
fantasy movement's avoidance of debates. The
publication of Ryan Mackey's devastating critique
of the farrago of falsehoods and errors that
comprises the chapter on the NIST Report in David
Griffin's latest travesty sent another snake oil
salesman running for the hills. Are any champions
of Da Twoof willing to try their luck on
'Hardfire,' a public access show that tapes in
Brooklyn, NY? Jim Fetzer and the Loose Change
boys didn't do too well."
 
Towards the end, I heard Craig reference some collapse model by (what sounded like) the University of Honolulu, does anyone know what he is referring to?


Um...there is no "University of Honolulu"

There is however Honolulu Community College (one of the sub-campuses of the University of Hawaii system).

I haven't listened to the audio as Im trying to see if Im willing to kill a few brain cells to do so.
 

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