Hi PSILOAD Did I said I was a scientific, hell no, luckily I make lots of mistakes everyday, excuse me for the quotation marks, sometimes I use them for some things I'm not sure, perhaps I should improve my writing or we could write in Spanish if you want, love, a
perhaps not everything is lost for astrology
Why yes, yes it is - and actually it always was.
Just out of curious, is judiciary astrology astrology for judges or astrology for determining the length of time an astrologer might spend in jail for defrauding the public?
Why yes, yes it is - and actually it always was.
Just out of curious, is judiciary astrology astrology for judges or astrology for determining the length of time an astrologer might spend in jail for defrauding the public?
Niobe
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It's actress Indira Varma.
But your comment leads me to another issue: What comment or claim is too absurd to ascribe to (super)natural causes?
My joke about a fetus staying put because she wants to "make" a certain astrological sign is absurd, but the tsunami happened because Uranus passed a certain point in the universe (only relevant to observers from a certain angle I might add?)
"Sure a couple of thousands of people died but it's just because that big old ball of ice is a tricksy bastard *shrug*" That sounds like a very detached way to rationalize events.
Hello NIOBE, my name is Adriana and I am just a student of this strange thing everybody calls astrology. I didn't mean to offend you in any way, sorry if it sounded like that. Allow me to correct this: more than 300,000 people were killed with that tsunami. an yes, Uranus was the cause for the wave. Why some people succeeded to scape? I can certainly answer that, do you really want to know? sometimes some things you have to put in a simplistic way (sorry for the term) because the explanation may take hundreds of pages and I still don't know if CELLO MAN wants to discuss about it or not.
You are right about the angle. But again, do you really want me to explain that? i will do it gladly.
I am not trying to rationalize events, I am looking for somebody who shares my views to exchange information, and if I have to answer a question I have to try and use some sort of simplification method just in order to make it more or less understandable. sometimes it is difficult to explain something without using analogies or stupid examples (and believe me I am a master at that)
Again, sorry if I offended you, far from what I was trying to do. The thing is that being the "new" around here is obviously very tempting for some people to attack and I still don't know you. Hope to hear from you.
You are right about the angle. But again, do you really want me to explain that? i will do it gladly.
I am not trying to rationalize events, I am looking for somebody who shares my views to exchange information, and if I have to answer a question I have to try and use some sort of simplification method just in order to make it more or less understandable. sometimes it is difficult to explain something without using analogies or stupid examples (and believe me I am a master at that)
Again, sorry if I offended you, far from what I was trying to do. The thing is that being the "new" around here is obviously very tempting for some people to attack and I still don't know you. Hope to hear from you.
Gord_in_Toronto
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
If astrology only works for humans, vide "it is absolutely stupid to say your dog is a libra",.
Who cut Urans' umbillical cord?
If astrology only works for humans, vide "it is absolutely stupid to say your dog is a libra",.
Who cut Urans' umbillical cord?
Very well: You say it is not possible to change people's destiny.
Why it is impossible for an astrologer to accurately record his results, so astrologers can learn from that?
Can you name the astrologers who are real astrologers?
Can you explain why they are real astrologers?
Why it is absolutely stupid to say a dog is a libra?
Does that mean that astrology only works on humans?
If so, why?
I have other questions derived from your second post, but let's get these ones over first.
Niobe
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I wasn't offended at all, just because sceptics generally don't pull punches doesn't mean we're angry or offended, just that we won't use flowery speech or dial it down to make a point.
My question was this: At what point does it become silly to ascribe something, anything, to the location of the stars?
For a person like me that answer would be "in all cases", and you and people of your philosophy ascribe at least some things if not everything to it. When does it become absurd, in your mind to say event X is due to Planet Y being in position Z, and what makes you make the distinction and not give the "absurd" status to the acceptable category?
OK, here we go: QUARKY: you can only change it for just minutes, I'm sorry if you are a Piscis and you want to be a Leo, I don't think your mother would agree in waiting for another five months, though she could make a lot of money by having the longest pregnancy ever registered!!!!!! You are going to have a certain natal chart and no other, if you change that for some minutes the only thing you can alter is to choose whether you prefer having a problem on your spine that prevents you from walking or having a cheating wife... but as you are already born I'm sorry my friend we can not alter the way things are for you today, (like reading my blah, blah, blah... hahahahaha)
GORD: I just simply love you and your tomatoes!!!!!!!!!!!
CFLARSEN: many great astrologers recorded them, I found this place while searching for some of their books which are not commercial and therefore difficult to find.
To name just a few: BEROSO, Barbault, bethen, albumazer, volguine, alan leo, robert fludd and I know this is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. if you happen to know about fludd's books please let me know!!!
Anyone who is autoproclamed "astrologer" is not!!! That is my belief.
I didn't say you can't say a dog is a libra. My problem is that no libran person is really a libra. Each natal chart repeats itself every 25,000 years or so. So we are so absolutely different that is nonsense to try to put all libras together and say they are all going to get mail today!!!!!! Just imagine the problems the postal services would have delivering such an enormous amount of mail in only one day!!!!! (hope you understand i am simplifying this too much, I don't agree with horoscopes and I don't like when they are put into the same category with astrology)
As I said before, astrology can preview many different things, not only in humans, but again, the knowledge is so vast I had to reduce my scope just to judiciary, the rest is beyond my capacities.
You can for example, study financial facts through astrology, If you are about to ask for a loan I would recommend you wait until Monday, you will minimize the chances of being overcharged with interests or expenses you didn't take into account before. i know it sounds strange but the principle is very basic and old people working on their farms can talk to you about the best moment to plant some seeds. Again to the tomatoes!!!!!!!
See you, adriana
GORD: I just simply love you and your tomatoes!!!!!!!!!!!
CFLARSEN: many great astrologers recorded them, I found this place while searching for some of their books which are not commercial and therefore difficult to find.
To name just a few: BEROSO, Barbault, bethen, albumazer, volguine, alan leo, robert fludd and I know this is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg. if you happen to know about fludd's books please let me know!!!
Anyone who is autoproclamed "astrologer" is not!!! That is my belief.
I didn't say you can't say a dog is a libra. My problem is that no libran person is really a libra. Each natal chart repeats itself every 25,000 years or so. So we are so absolutely different that is nonsense to try to put all libras together and say they are all going to get mail today!!!!!! Just imagine the problems the postal services would have delivering such an enormous amount of mail in only one day!!!!! (hope you understand i am simplifying this too much, I don't agree with horoscopes and I don't like when they are put into the same category with astrology)
As I said before, astrology can preview many different things, not only in humans, but again, the knowledge is so vast I had to reduce my scope just to judiciary, the rest is beyond my capacities.
You can for example, study financial facts through astrology, If you are about to ask for a loan I would recommend you wait until Monday, you will minimize the chances of being overcharged with interests or expenses you didn't take into account before. i know it sounds strange but the principle is very basic and old people working on their farms can talk to you about the best moment to plant some seeds. Again to the tomatoes!!!!!!!
See you, adriana
Gord_in_Toronto
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Thank you.
What about Uranus?
I completely understand your point, what I am trying to say is that is not possible to judge everything with the same rules. Long ago some people used to think the earth was flat and long before that fire was "magical". Just because we didn't study something and didn't see some proofs, we can not say it doesn't work. As I said at my first post, I have been studying this for five years already and I had my skeptical moments of course and then I found some proofs and I am still studying, trying and learning.
On this path I had to admit many things fell into place like pieces of a puzzle, and you try to be judgemental and the facts prove you wrong. (A workmate asked me a question two months ago about something related with her ex husband, I made some calculations and told her to be careful and tried not to engage in useless discussions with him. Some days after that, she was absent for a couple of days. When I saw her again she was full of bruises because he battered her).
I felt so bad. I was not able to calculate the extent of the damage, but again, i am just a student, I make a lot of mistakes and although everything happened at the day and time I told her, I was wrong, it was not just a discussion. Believe me I felt awful. Now I ask myself. could i have prevented this from happening? I think not, but I don't know. I have lots to learn still.
On this path I had to admit many things fell into place like pieces of a puzzle, and you try to be judgemental and the facts prove you wrong. (A workmate asked me a question two months ago about something related with her ex husband, I made some calculations and told her to be careful and tried not to engage in useless discussions with him. Some days after that, she was absent for a couple of days. When I saw her again she was full of bruises because he battered her).
I felt so bad. I was not able to calculate the extent of the damage, but again, i am just a student, I make a lot of mistakes and although everything happened at the day and time I told her, I was wrong, it was not just a discussion. Believe me I felt awful. Now I ask myself. could i have prevented this from happening? I think not, but I don't know. I have lots to learn still.
Why are they "real" astrologers? Fludd - to pick one - cast horoscopes, yet you dismiss them.
I am not interested in your beliefs, but what you can prove.
You said:
Is a dog influenced by astrology? Just yes or no.
Why? Are you thinking of the precession?
Why it is impossible for an astrologer to accurately record his results, so astrologers can learn from that?
Can you explain why the astrologers mentioned above are real astrologers?
Does astrology work on humans only?
And do you think you could give direct answers to direct questions?
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If you're not using these terms in the sense of their generally understood scientific meanings, then perhaps you shouldn't use them at all. If you're using these terms in some kind of poetic or artistic sense, then perhaps you could instead say something along these lines:
See? If you're speaking poetically rather than scientifically, you should use poetic terms, otherwise you may confuse scientifically-minded people into actually taking your claims at face value.
And if you're intentionally misapplying scientific terminology in order to lend your wild astrological speculations an undeserved air of scientific credibility, please don't, I assure you... it will backfire on you.
Kay?
Elizabeth I
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That tomato is obscene!!!!!!1111eleventyone! Just think of the effect that picture might have on any innocent immature young tomatos that might see it. You should be reported for posting tomato pr0n.
Ohnoes is this Stundie coming back?