John-Keats.com Allowing Nonsense In Their Forums!!!

clerihew80 said:
Jesus, you had to dig up a post from months ago? Pathetic. OK, what word should I have used, rather than "transitioning"?

This is ridiculous. You people are insufferable.
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Well, transitioning does not bother me. I suppose "switching" or "moving on"
would work too.:)
In all fairness, you should be able to use whatever (correct) words you wish - I just have that problem with your (apparent) belief that all forums should operate the way you want them to even though they are not set up, run by or paid for by you.
 
While the OP is clearly overreacting, I feel that as someone with poetic aspirations I've just got to have a tilt at this:

-Fran- said:
Hmm... though I can understand your frustration, is it really that very surprising that believers in astrology also like poetry? I mean, a bit of newage in such circles are not really all that surprising.
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Why, exactly? I’d say it’s just the opposite. The best poetry requires absolute clarity of thought, an unflinching commitment to describing reality as you find it even when you have to bend language itself into exciting new shapes to do so.

There’s nothing riles me more (well, on this particular subject at least) than the whole ‘magical-incantations-to-soothe-the-soul’ view of poetry and poets which pervades the more amateur end of the literary world, and seems to create exactly the general feeling expressed above, that there’s something vaguely woo-ish about the whole enterprise.

<Takes deep breaths, swallows handful of pills, waits for throbbing to subside…>
 
I've learned a new word, "clerihew." Curiously enough, it is a form of poetry. Coincidence and irony frolic together in a field of satire. My day is complete.
 
Matt the Poet said:
While the OP is clearly overreacting, I feel that as someone with poetic aspirations I've just got to have a tilt at this:



Why, exactly? I’d say it’s just the opposite. The best poetry requires absolute clarity of thought, an unflinching commitment to describing reality as you find it even when you have to bend language itself into exciting new shapes to do so.

There’s nothing riles me more (well, on this particular subject at least) than the whole ‘magical-incantations-to-soothe-the-soul’ view of poetry and poets which pervades the more amateur end of the literary world, and seems to create exactly the general feeling expressed above, that there’s something vaguely woo-ish about the whole enterprise.

<Takes deep breaths, swallows handful of pills, waits for throbbing to subside…>
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Didn't say this view of poetry is the right one. But whether one likes it or not, many woos seems to think that their lifestyle should include some poetry, and do seem to have the view on poetry that you mention above. It's their view of what they think poetry is about, not mine. All I said was that it is not really surprising to encounter a newage view of poetry in newage circles, and that the OP shouldn't have been so shocked about it. I mean, a poetry forum is bound to draw at least a few of those.

Personally I do not think there's anything remotely wooish about poetry in itself.
 
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-Fran- said:
All I said was that it is not really surprising to encounter a newage view of poetry in newage circles, and that the OP shouldn't have been so shocked about it. I mean, a poetry forum is bound to draw at least a few of those.
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But if the Administrators and Mods are woos, as well? Isn't that cause for alarm?
 
OH NOES!!!

Seriously, who cares? Woos are everywhere. Argue with them if you want but why should the JREF be informed and alarmed at this?

Quick everyone, let's make a list of every forum on teh Intarwebs that are heavily into woo!
 
fuelair said:
No - probably 95% + of people are woos in at least one area. And, it is their website/forum - so real good luck on that.
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Well, what really gets me is that not a single person, other than myself, objected. You'd think there would be other members of that forum who feel the same way that I do about astrology, but I guess not. Either that, or they just don't care.
 
clerihew80 said:
Philistines. Is no one else upset about this?
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I'm upset.

You abuse my language.

You use words to distract from your lack of ideas.

You claim that you'd have twenty cows for the sake of truth, or some such twaddle.

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Either way, Keats doesn't need your defense, and probably would have thrown you to the swine if given the chance.

Go forth, and don't multiply.
 
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clerihew80 said:
But if the Administrators and Mods are woos, as well? Isn't that cause for alarm?
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No, but it might be a good reason to leave and become a member of another forum, more fitting of ones opinions, or start your own.
 
clerihew80 said:
Well, what really gets me is that not a single person, other than myself, objected. You'd think there would be other members of that forum who feel the same way that I do about astrology, but I guess not. Either that, or they just don't care.
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You're right; I absolutely do not care that three complete strangers on an internet forum I've never even visited before believe in astrology. And you haven't really given a coherent reason why I should, for all your hyperbole.
 
clerihew80 said:
Well, what really gets me is that not a single person, other than myself, objected. You'd think there would be other members of that forum who feel the same way that I do about astrology, but I guess not. Either that, or they just don't care.
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I do feel the same way about Astrology as you do. That is to say that it's utter nonsense, and I think most people in this thread think so too. I just think your reaction to it all is quite a bit over the top. But, sure, if that's your chosen method of trying to rid the world of Astrology, go ahead.

That I don't agree with your "methods" here, does not mean I support the spread of Astrology.

And as for that forum, you said what was on your mind, which is totally OK, I might have done something similar though I think I would have worded it differently. And, it wasn't well recived, well... that's life. So, people there didn't care. So, people (even those with silly woo beliefs) have the right to create forums with their own rules. So, it was clearly not a forum for you.

So... I don't get it what you expect us here to do about it? You want us all to aid you in a fight to repress free speach for people with silly woo beliefs? It doesn't work that way. You want people to stop believe in Astrology? Then demanding that mods and administrators on any forum dictate what their members can discuss according to what YOU think they can and can not discuss, is really a bad method.

It doesn't work that way, and that's why I think this whole thing is silly, even though Astrology is indeed total bunk. Not withstanding the mildly hypocritical stance you take when you get upset about a few people discussing the astrological chart of a long dead poet, while you gladly would lie to people that you believe in astrology just to get something from them. To defend that with being a "large person" who contains many contradictions is kind of a rather lame excuse. We all lie sometimes, yes, but if we then claim to be some "warrior of truth" then it does not become a contradiction, it becomes hypocrisy, plain and simple.
 
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