African shaman performing levitation

[insidespace]

Well I dont know who the Shaman is. You say he is an actor. The film says he is a Shaman. So, lets put the money on the barrellhead and let the fat lady sing as they say. Put your money down and take your choice. Roll the dice and make a wish. I'll call you and raise you 10.

I note this from the you tube video comments

"These shamans unlock doors of understanding and realizing that "man has no limits, only the limits that man creates through doubt and fear", So he takes control of the materialistic world"

So, if man has no limits, who are we to say that man has such limits he cannot for a *short* time move away from the Crust of the Earth a "little bit." Without violating the "conservation laws of Nature."

I watched the video again, and I am more impressed than ever. He does not play to the camera at all. He is engrossed in his prayers. This might be some demonstration to his G-ds. I can't imaging how important this is to him, yet we are here treating it as a parlor trick. We should be ashamed.

 

[yairhol]

I have *never* seen a robe like that, though I have been in all 50 states, except Nebraska.

So you claim that you have seen all the robes that are present in those 50 states that you have been to? Could there be 1 more robe that you have not seen which is the one in the video?

So, it is an African Robe, as we all agree

No, we don't agree. Ever!!! I mentioned that you can buy those in Africa because you said:

Where did they get that robe? Nobody has a robe like that laying around, except maybe a Hollywood actor

so if you can buy those by the hundreds then many many people have robes like that laying around in their homes. Not just in Hollywood, not just in Nebraska and not just in Africa. These robes can be found all over the world.

Now you also said:

I would use the phrase "WYSIWUG", or, absent some big conspiracy, "what you see is what you get."

So why don't you believe Copperfield is really flying? WUSIWUG in his video also. Where does it show that he was not really flying? just because you believe it was done in Hollywood? So I'm telling you it was not done in Hollywood, it is done everyday all over the world by many others. And still WYSIWYG so Copperfield is really flying.

You also said:

And I might ask, if it is faked, where exactly is the wire? How thick? How long? Made where? How strong? Who is holding it up, a bird? Who is involved? Another Shaman? Where did they get that robe? Nobody has a robe like that laying around, except maybe a Hollywood actor. So, tell me it was made in Hollywood and I will retract everything I said. If not, I tend to think WYSIUG.

Where is the wire on Copperfield? how thick? How long? Made where? How strong? Who is holding it up, a bird? Who is involved? Another Shaman?
Nobody has a hairstyle like that laying around on someone's head, except maybe a Hollywood actor.
And why can't the shaman be a Hollywood actor filming his trick on a set to look like he is in holy Africa?

You see insidespace, I'm not saying that levitation by the power of the mind is not possible, I'm just saying that if a robe like that can be found in Hollywood (you said so), and the shaman person can be a Hollywood actor (why not?), and the background can be made with Hollywood props (of course) and the levitation can be done with Hollywood trickery (you said so and of course) then why believe this man is floating with holy powers (which have never been seen before, never published in any magazine, only found on youtube, shot with very dark background, only from 2 angles, etc.) and not say that he's a hollywood magician?

Are you that desperate to believe in the supernatural?

Regards,
Yair

 

[insidespace]

No I agree if it is a Hollywood production, it is a fake. Do we know? Where's the hard evidence, not just the opinion, speculation, dream consciousness, wishful thinking, delerium, and all the rest?

 

[tracer]

If you were driving your canoe down a four-lane highway, and all the wheels fell off, how many pancakes would it take to fix your sister's doghouse?

Sixteen, because ice cream has no bones.

 

[madurobob]

And I might ask, if it is faked, where exactly is the wire? How thick? How long? Made where? How strong? Who is holding it up, a bird? Who is involved? Another Shaman? Where did they get that robe? Nobody has a robe like that laying around, except maybe a Hollywood actor. So, tell me it was made in Hollywood and I will retract everything I said. If not, I tend to think WYSIUG.

As has been pointed out, he's not being lifted by wires. He is on a "See-Saw" or "Teeter-Totter" supported from behind.

Don't know where to find on of those kewl robes? Try This Here Company in New Jersey!

 

[JonWhite]

I note this from the you tube video comments

"These shamans unlock doors of understanding and realizing that "man has no limits, only the limits that man creates through doubt and fear", So he takes control of the materialistic world".

It should however read something along the lines of:

"These shamans unlock doors of ignorance and realizing that "man has no limits, only the limits that man creates through fantasy and superstition", So he takes control of the YouTube world".

 

[Senex]

derail ?
Are you confusing "defeating gravity" with defeating momentum?

If you toss a ball straight up on a moving train does it fly to the back of the train?

/derail

No, but the ball is under the affect of gravity. Throw gravity out of your equation and see where your ball ends up. The earth moves even faster than your train.

 

[VespaGuy]

Well I dont know who the Shaman is. You say he is an actor. The film says he is a Shaman. So, lets put the money on the barrellhead and let the fat lady sing as they say. Put your money down and take your choice. Roll the dice and make a wish. I'll call you and raise you 10.

I'll ask again?

Which is more probable?

1. this is a trick
2. a person is able to violate natural laws for the first time ever, yet it is completely ignored by the scientific community, and the filmmakers who filmed it overlook fame and fortune for their discovery, and instead decide to publish their work on youtube.

I note this from the you tube video comments

"These shamans unlock doors of understanding and realizing that "man has no limits, only the limits that man creates through doubt and fear", So he takes control of the materialistic world"

So, if man has no limits, who are we to say that man has such limits he cannot for a *short* time move away from the Crust of the Earth a "little bit." Without violating the "conservation laws of Nature."

Wait, you are now using YouTube comments as sources? Seriously!!

I watched the video again, and I am more impressed than ever.

It doesn't seem to take much.

He does not play to the camera at all. He is engrossed in his prayers. This might be some demonstration to his G-ds.

Or it might be a trick.

I can't imaging how important this is to him, yet we are here treating it as a parlor trick. We should be ashamed.

You should be embaressed.

 

[magi]

Well I dont know who the Shaman is. You say he is an actor. The film says he is a Shaman. So, lets put the money on the barrellhead and let the fat lady sing as they say. Put your money down and take your choice. Roll the dice and make a wish. I'll call you and raise you 10.

Dude -- why do you attach more importance and credibility to some steaming pile of parrot droppings you saw on youtube, versus information from another web site? This one, for example?

The fat lady, she be singin'. That it's a fake, and your statements are as well. You want to call, fine. I call BS. You are making this stuff up, pulling it from your nether regions.

I watched the video again, and I am more impressed than ever. He does not play to the camera at all. He is engrossed in his prayers. This might be some demonstration to his G-ds. I can't imaging how important this is to him, yet we are here treating it as a parlor trick. We should be ashamed.

Oh, c'mon! I don't beleive you believe any of this! The only thing to be ashamed of, is playing along with your silliness this long.

 

[yairhol]

No I agree if it is a Hollywood production, it is a fake. Do we know? Where's the hard evidence, not just the opinion, speculation, dream consciousness, wishful thinking, delerium, and all the rest?

So let's see, we don't have any evidence that this video is done in Africa by a holy man levitating by the power of his mind and we don't have any evidence that it is filmed in Hollywood by a magician. So what is the most logical and intelligent conclusion that can be made here?
Le's see:
1. Holy powers never seen before, never heard of before, found only on youtube, done only in very dark background, shot from 2 angles only, not being visited by people from all over the world wanting to see these powers in person, etc.

OR

2. Hollywood trick done everyday.

Of course, let's choose the impossible. It's sexier and more fun. Why stick with boring everyday stuff right?

If you are willing to be educated, look up "Occam's Razor"

Regards,
Yair

 

[magi]

Sixteen, because ice cream has no bones.

Ah! A true scholar. Tell me, then.. why does an aarvark bark in heat?

 

[VespaGuy]

No I agree if it is a Hollywood production, it is a fake. Do we know?

No we don't. Here's what we do know. See if you can follow along:

People can't levitate.
This illusion can be done (and has been done) by completely natural means.
Just because somebody says something on the internet, doesn't mean it's true (e.g. "look at this video from Africa", "Bill Gates will send you $100 if you forward emails!", etc)

Where's the hard evidence, not just the opinion, speculation, dream consciousness, wishful thinking, delerium, and all the rest?

I'll ask you the same thing. You are the one with the ridiculous claim. There is nothing extraordinary about this trick.

You are the one claiming "magic". Where is your evidence?

 

[yairhol]

Hey, anyone know how this is done?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s2EMXle8raw
that's amazing.
And no, it's not in a Hollywood studio.

Regards,
Yair

 

[baron]

Hey, anyone know how this is done?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s2EMXle8raw
that's amazing.
And no, it's not in a Hollywood studio.

Regards,
Yair

The centre of gravity is directly beneath the place where the wood touches the glass. The fact that some of the wood burned away is irrelevant because the weight loss would be insufficient to upset the balance.

 

[madurobob]

Hey, anyone know how this is done?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s2EMXle8raw
that's amazing.
And no, it's not in a Hollywood studio.

Regards,
Yair

The amazing shamanistic powers of Wonder Woman and Tigger!

Wonder Woman and Tigger? Together? Where does anyone find a glass with Wonder Woman and Tigger on it? What kind of crime fighting duo is that?

"their tops ar made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of spring, they're bouncy, pouncy, flouncy, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun"

Hmmmmm.....

Center of gravity of the utensils is not where you suspect it is?

 

[Alkatran]

Hey, anyone know how this is done?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s2EMXle8raw
that's amazing.
And no, it's not in a Hollywood studio.

Regards,
Yair

The forks are arranged in such a way that the torque on the match from the gravity on the forks is countered by the torque on the forks.

Essentially, the forks want to swing away from the glass (lifting the match) and fall to the ground (pulling the match down), and these forces cancel.

 

[Madalch]

Wonder Woman and Tigger? Together? Where does anyone find a glass with Wonder Woman and Tigger on it?

What you seem to think is Tigger is actually writing- it's the words "Wonder Woman".

Ah- can't expect you to have noticed that, you were busy ogling the picture of Wonder Woman.

 

[yairhol]

What do you mean the center of gravity is not where I think it is?
it's outside of the glass with the utensils hanging in mid air on top of wood. or is it not on the wood?
I don't care about the burning of the wood. Of course that doesn't do anything but how do the utensils stay on top of the wood without falling with the wood to the side of the glass?

 

[Spektator]

Well I dont know who the Shaman is. You say he is an actor. The film says he is a Shaman. (snip).

My proof that the shaman is merely an actor:

1. Actors are in the business of deceit; they pretend to be someone they are not. You may claim I am an actor and therefore am lying about this, but I am not an actor, so I must be telling the truth.

2. The shaman looks a lot like professional actors I have seen. Since he looks so much like a professional actor, he is a professional actor. Can you prove that he is not a professional actor?

3. You didn't take me up on the bet that I have not been to China, so why should I take you up on a bet about the man in the footage?

4. Many great movie critics would agree that this man is acting. On their authority, he is obviously an actor.

5. Notice how the fire around him illuminates his feet? Actors appear in front of the footlights. He can only be an actor because no one else appears in front of the footlights.

I will leave it up to the other posters: Is my proof that the man is an actor not just as good as insidespace's proof that he is actually levitating?

 

[yairhol]

I think I get it now. The handles of the utensils cancel out the weight of the head of the utensils right? or no?

Yair