It is quite certain Peter spent his last years in Rome

DOC said:
This is a false statement. I've answered the question in post 13, post 26, and also one time when I said I'm just putting the facts out there, you can do with them what you want. So at least 3 times I answered that question. If you don't like my answers then stay out of the forum. Those are my answers, take them or leave them. If answering a question at least 3 times is being a coward than so be it I guess.
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I've already explained that your answers weren't answers. They were non sequitors.
DOC said:
In answer to your question about what is the relevance of my facts I'll just repeat myself again and again --"I'm just putting info out there, what you do with it is up to you". Post 13, and 26 also applies.
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Allow me to take your next sentence out of order.
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I'm not even completely sure myself why. .
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This is the first time you have answered truthfully in a long time. Thank you.
I had a feeling you had no clue why you were presenting this information.
there is nothing wrong with no knowing. Just think about why you feel it matters and perhaps a reason will come to you. I'll be most interested in learning your findings.


DOC said:
I'll also say what I said before, "The fact that these simple facts are causing such a fuss and uproar" tells me (and should tell others) that they are important and make a difference in the scenery. ..[snip]...But all the uproar tells me these simple facts make a difference
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This is obviously a poorly considered statement. Just because something causes a strong response, does not validate that something.

For instance, Your logic would mean that the US "war on Terror" means there is something to "Terror". How would you respond if Osama Bin Laden claimed that the US aggression was proof that his attack against america was noble?

Think of it another way, If I was to go onto a christian board and start a thread entitled, "Jesus was not even a real guy, let alone the son of god". You can be certain that the thread would receive many posts (presuming the mods don't instantly block me). It is simply that I would be posting a view so against that forum's ideology that it would be lambasted left and right by all posters. IT wouldn't mean that my statement "must be important and make a difference in the scenery."

Now, You started threads on this forum(where people pride themselves on rational thought, fact checking, consistent logical arguments) that did not have a clear logical foundation. The reason why people have responded to you so aggressively is because you have been generally non responsive and have presented missleading information with wrong conclusions. Note that not even the christians on the forum defended your arguments. Most likely becuase they didn't know what your arguments were either.


Again, thank you for finally responding to one of the real questions presented.
 
DOC said:
Regarding the previous post. I was talking to Joobz not you. You should let him respond himself. Even though you are no stranger to attacking the messenger yourself with shock words and empty assertions.
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I would be careful slinging around phrases like "empty assertions". Might set someone to thinking about all the posts you have made in this forum.
 
DOC said:
This is a false statement. I've answered the question in post 13, post 26, and also one time when I said I'm just putting the facts out there, you can do with them what you want. So at least 3 times I answered that question. If you don't like my answers then stay out of the forum. Those are my answers, take them or leave them. If answering a question at least 3 times is being a coward than so be it I guess.

In answer to your question about what is the relevance of my facts I'll just repeat myself again and again --"I'm just putting info out there, what you do with it is up to you". Post 13, and 26 also applies.

I'll also say what I said before, "The fact that these simple facts are causing such a fuss and uproar" tells me (and should tell others) that they are important and make a difference in the scenery. I'm not even completely sure myself why. But all the uproar tells me these simple facts make a difference.
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At the risk of repeating myself (a risk I willingly take in this situation) : you don't get to decide who can be in the forum - or even who can post in your thread. If you cannot handle that consider going to a forum where you can write whatever empty assertions you feel like and the deluded will follow you like you were Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggart.
 
DOC said:
I'll also say what I said before, "The fact that these simple facts are causing such a fuss and uproar" tells me (and should tell others) that they are important and make a difference in the scenery. I'm not even completely sure myself why. But all the uproar tells me these simple facts make a difference.
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Important? By whose standard? What do you mean fuss and uproar? Those are subjective standards. I see no fuss. I see no uproar. I see the typical ego vs ego debate. It's what humans do. Big [rule 8] deal.

Please see Light created Life. 3,270 posts and 40,834 views. By your logic this is a very important thread. It's about nothing. Nada. Zip. It was driven by one person's ego and erroneous belief that he had stumbled upon something important. He was wrong.

Don't take yourself so seriously. This is just an internet forum and you are no C.S. Lewis.
 
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I'll also say what I said before, "The fact that these simple facts are causing such a fuss and uproar" tells me (and should tell others) that they are important and make a difference in the scenery. I'm not even "completely" sure myself why. But all the uproar tells me these simple facts make a difference.


joobz said:
I had a feeling you had no clue why you were presenting this information.
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Once again you make a false representation of what I said. People start to lose credibility when they do this often. I implied that I am not "completely" sure about why the uproar. Your above quote misrepresents my statement much like the title "Doc's proof of Christianity" is a false statement since I never said the facts I present prove Christianity.
 
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DOC said:
Once again you make a false representation of what I said. People start to lose credibility when they do this often. I implied that I am not "completely" sure about why the uproar.
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Opps, I thought you were answering the question. That wasn't a missrepresentation but a missunderstanding.
in that case, I completely recend my apology. you haven't answered the question and are contining to evade it. You are still a coward.

what a shame. I thought perhaps you'd begin to be honest and open.
 
joobz said:
Opps, I thought you were answering the question. That wasn't a missrepresentation but a missunderstanding.
in that case, I completely recend my apology. you haven't answered the question and are contining to evade it. You are still a coward.

what a shame. I thought perhaps you'd begin to be honest and open.
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/me walks in, grabs joobz's supply of Troll-chow and walks out muttering

don't feed the trolls
 
joobz said:
Opps, I thought you were answering the question. That wasn't a missrepresentation but a missunderstanding.
in that case, I completely recend my apology. you haven't answered the question and are contining to evade it.
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You meant oops, right. Unless this is some "Special Ops" to attack the messenger...

Was that the "So What" question that I already answered in this forum or some other question?
 
kmortis said:
* kmortis;2861045 walks in, grabs joobz's supply of Troll-chow and walks out muttering

don't feed the trolls
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I....
Can't.....
Stop.....
(I still hold out hope DOC will redeem his self)
DOC said:
You meant oops, right. Unless this is some "Special Ops" to attack the messenger...

Was that the "So What" question that I already answered in this forum or some other question?
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You answer wasn't an answer. it was a dodge.
you've been told this countless times.
Maybe kmortis has the right of it.

Are you a coward or a troll?
 
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Oooohhhh! Can I start a thread on how all white supremacists are Christian?:idea:
 
JoeEllison said:
Oooohhhh! Can I start a thread on how all white supremacists are Christian?:idea:
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Except that it's not true. A few have espoused Asatru because it's not tainted by any form of Semitism.

Now, saying "Most white supremists are Christians" would work. We could quibble for pages over the meaning of the word "most".
 
joobz said:
I....
Can't.....
Stop.....
(I still hold out hope DOC will redeem his self)
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Evidence?

joobz said:
DOC said:
You meant oops, right. Unless this is some "Special Ops" to attack the messenger...

Was that the "So What" question that I already answered in this forum or some other question?
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You answer wasn't an answer. it was a dodge.
you've been told this countless times.
Maybe kmortis has the right of it.

Are you a coward or a troll?
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I rest my case. Next on the docket we have....
 
kmortis said:
Except that it's not true. A few have espoused Asatru because it's not tainted by any form of Semitism.

Now, saying "Most white supremists are Christians" would work. We could quibble for pages over the meaning of the word "most".
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If it were true, it wouldn't be much of a DOC parody, would it?
 
joobz said:
Actually, you didn't respond. Your answer was to state that Jesus called Peter the rock. this is not an answer to "so what". It is just another statement that begs the "so what" question.
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So when I talk about Peter being in Rome for a few years and then in post 13

Ducky asks "so what" and I answer

Doc said:
Well Christ did call Peter "the Rock" that he would build his Church on. If the altar of St. Peter's Basilica (maybe the biggest Church in the world) is built directly above the grave of Peter that would be quite a prediction ol' Christ made.
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And then you say I didn't answer the question and even state in a forum you put up about me that the question goes unanswered, I really think you "lose credibility". You can't give a more direct answer as to why Peter being in Rome is important. St Peter's Basilica is in Rome in case you didn't know.
 
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