Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters

[drapier]

Try as you may, the "I don't see it" argument is a cop out. For every one who says "I don't see it" there are fifty more who say, "I do see it." What can be witnessed with the eyes is far more convincing than empty words.

Some claim to see that Patty has braided her hair and fastened it with a bone clasp, thus revealing a level of culture not hitherto ascribed to bigfoot.

What further wonders await us as we take a 16mm frame and expand it!

The imagination is our only limit.

I say we move boldly onwards.

 

[Luminous]

Could be the exact opposite too. In fact I know it is.

 

[Luminous]

So I take it that you use the "ignore what was said" approach. Classic.

 

[Marcus]

Well if there are, supposedly, "alien" big cats roaming about, then I would suspect an escape from a zoo, circus, or some idiot bought one thinking it was a good pet. Nothing too paranormal there. But has someone ever caught one of these large cats? I have to admit I am not to familiar with this subject.

The mean uber ultra super scoftics are demanding evidence, and havung to explain ad infinitum why anecdotes are not proof.

 

[drapier]

So I take it that you use the "ignore what was said" approach. Classic.

On the contrary, I believe everything you said and so much more.

Remember-- the imagination is our only limit!

 

[Luminous]

1.30 isn't 'a lot' after noon is it??? Not as if it was 5 hours or so.

Well isn't 3.5 miles "quite a ways"? I would say so.

Where are the contradictions here Parcher??? I mean, it's not like the contradictions about what the suit looked like, what it was built from and how it was put on etc etc.

None of the above apply to Patterson and Gimlin. They do apply to Bob Hieronimus though......often.

Difference is, Gimlin and Patterson's accounts do not differ greatly in all the important aspects of the claim. Bob Heironimus' claims are all over the place. More importantly he's not the right size and shape to have been the man in the suit and he doesn't even walk like 'Patty' when he tries.

Watch the videos. I see there have been NO comments on them so far. Typical. Here they are again. Here's Bob H NOT walking with the same bent legged gait as Patty:

Here's the 'wunerful' Patty replication (*sniggers*)

Here's a close up. Looks like a brown Tellytubby:

If those links don't work, click on this:

I agree 100% (Teletubby! That's the exact term I used. It fits perfectly, unlike BH's suit!) No muscle tone seen under his costume. Hmmmm. I wonder why? Could it be because Patty is the real deal? Naw, couldn't be.

 

[Luminous]

Oops, double post

 

[Luminous]

On the contrary, I believe everything you said and so much more.

Remember-- the imagination is our only limit!

Not if you wear a tinfoil hat to keep your imagination power intact and to block out those pesky alien rays...

 

[the evilist serene]

Forgive me for interjecting here. This thread is 123 pages long and I don't have time to read every page. But I'll ask you all this:

Has anyone here actually seen BH dressed up and walking in his Patty suit? I have, and all I can say is that he looked like a fat and furry "teletubby." There was no resemblance at all to the subject RP filmed.

Forgive me for interjecting here. But this thread is 123 pages long and we really don't have time to rehash 61 and a half of those for someone who doesn't have time to read them.

 

[Luminous]

Forgive me for interjecting here. But this thread is 123 pages long and we really don't have time to rehash 61 and a half of those for someone who doesn't have time to read them.

Then that's just too bad for you now isn't it? I'd bet that you haven't read them all either.

 

[Yeah_Right]

The mean uber ultra super scoftics are demanding evidence, and havung to explain ad infinitum why anecdotes are not proof.

I think it comes down to what I have always thought about proponents of anything phenomenal, be it Bigfoot or UFOs. They prefer to be believed without question.

 

[LTC8K6]

Patty shows clear and in some places "flexing" muscle tone in the legs, arms, back, gluts, and hands.

I have no problem with you believing that. I don't, though.

What evidence do you bring to the table besides empty words?

Evidence of what? You mean you want me to provide evidence that it's a man in a suit? I'll provide the same evidence you provided for it being an actual sasquatch.

It looks like a man in a suit to me. It moves like a costume on a man to me. I see padding shifting, glove joins bulging, fake hair, etc. Patty also walks like a human to me.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Patty shows clear and in some places "flexing" muscle tone in the legs, arms, back, gluts, and hands. Show me one gorilla suit from that decade that had those features built in. You can't.

But, we can ..

Let me guess.. Now you are going to insist on two suits with those features ..

Speaking of muscle tone ..

What's up with that left leg ?

 

[LTC8K6]

And blockfoot? Where's the blockfoot cast?

 

[carcharodon]

They look like a human, according to some prominent scientists who viewed PGF.

And not like a human, according to others.

We have only one natural creature like Patty to go by. If Patty does not move like that one, how do you know she moves like a natural sasquatch?

You're not listening. I said she moves naturally and fluidily, which every 'man in bipedal ape men' suits do not. I didn't say she moves 'like a sasquatch'. I said she moves unlike all the actors in bipedal ape man costumes.

We have seen a person quickly pick up Patty's walk recently on a new TV show about the subject.

Wow, he was in a cumbersome, bulky suit with big fake feet on and walking across a non paved pathway at the time was he? Can you direct me to this footage??? Until you can, be quiet and go to the back of the class.

 

[kitakaze]

What stories don't match?? The question of whether the horse fell or slipped?? Whoopie do.

I see you have a lot of reading to do.

RayG

Hey, guy who can't be bothered to qualify his statements, looks like you need to go to the back of the class.

 

[carcharodon]

But, we can ..

http://www.intergate.com/~gregorygatz/images/buttcomp.gif

Wouldn't care to show us that suit actually MOVING, would you and not some obscure, blurry black and white still? You know, like the subject in the P/G footage moves.

Speaking of muscle tone ..

http://www.intergate.com/~gregorygatz/images/hernia2.gif

What's up with that left leg ?

I don't know, what's up with it? You've posted a still where many things look strange and not quite how they look in the moving footage. In that still it looks like Patty has a glob of white ice-cream on her arse and in that still it looks like Patty has a Chinese hat at the bottom of her right leg and not a foot. In that still it looks like Patty is wearing a hood over her head. In that still it looks like Patty's right arm is about 2 inches wide. Etc etc etc. Want me to go on????

 

[carcharodon]

Hey, guy who can't be bothered to qualify his statements, looks like you need to go to the back of the class.

Geez, what a prawn. That comment of mine about the horse was SARCASM dopey. Neither you nor Ray G 'got it'. I could have written "whether the horse fell or did a back flip over" or "whether the horse tripped or stumbled after doing a tap dance" and you STILL wouldn't have 'got it'.

Foreigners.

 

[kitakaze]

I don't know, what's up with it? You've posted a still where many things look strange and not quite how they look in the moving footage strange. In that still it looks like Patty has a glob of white ice-cream on her arse and in that still it looks like Patty's has a Chinese hat at the botton of her right leg and not a foot. In that still it looks like Patty is wearing a hood over her head. In that still it looks like Patty's right arm is about 2 inches wide. Etc etc etc. Want me to go on????

You will anyway. Hmm... I guess we shouldn't infer too much about a questionable film taken under questionable circumstances by a questionable man of a questionable subject at considerable distance.

 

[kitakaze]

Geez, what a prawn. That comment of mine about the horse was SARCASM dopey. Neither you nor Ray G 'got it'. I could have written "whether the horse fell or did a back flip over" or "whether the horse tripped or stumbled after doing a tap dance" and you STILL wouldn't have 'got it'.

Foreigners.

Ouch, good one. A little more subtle than 'pathetic faggot'. Hey, I am a foreigner so I guess I can't complain. So anyway, Tourette's boy, what happened when the creature was first encountered?