Ziggurat
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OK, let’s try this if it hasn’t been done all ready.
Not explicitly, but the key difference here is the distinction between what you see and what you observe, and if you understand that distinction, these questions are easy.
We have two spacemen and three clocks and they are big clocks that can be seen from a 100 feet with no problem. The speed of light for this experiment is 100 ft. per second. They are all somewhere in deep space, who cares where. The clocks are all reading the same time.
I am going to assume furthermore that the clocks and the spacemen also start at the same place and at rest with respect to some specified reference frame (which I'll refer to as the start frame).
1. Now one of the spacemen takes one of the clocks and travels at 99.9999% speed of light for one second and stops and looks back at the other spaceman and the two clocks, he is 100 ft away.
The one second time must be refering to the time in the start frame, not the time he experiences. I will refer to this spaceman as spaceman 1, and his clock as clock 1.
Is the time on his clock is the same as the other two clocks.
Is the time on his clock is one second behind the other two clocks.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds behind the other two clocks.
Is the time on his clock is one second ahead of the other two clocks.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds ahead of the other two clocks.
The time on clock 1 is observed to be different than the other two clocks. The proper time he experiences while moving with respect to the start frame is very short, so clock 1 will be observed to be almost 1 second behind the other clocks. However, spaceman 1 will see the other clocks as being about the same time as clock 1, while spaceman 2 will see clock 1 being two seconds behind the other clocks, since there's an approximately 1 second delay for the signal to get transmitted from one location to another. They don't see the same thing, but they both observe the same thing: clock 1 is ~1 second behind the other clocks.
2. Now the other spaceman takes one of the two remaining clocks
I'll call this spaceman 2 and clock 2, with the clock left behind being clock 3.
and travels very slowly, about one inch a second to the other spaceman.
You can go slower than that, the point is that we take the limiting behavior of slow travel time.
When he gets to the other spaceman he looks at the other spaceman’s clock.
Clock 1 and clock 2 are now in the same location. This is important.
Is the time on his clock is the same as the other spaceman’s clock.
Is the time on his clock is one second behind the other spaceman’s clock.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds behind the other spaceman’s clock.
Is the time on his clock is one second ahead of the other spaceman’s clock.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds ahead of the other spaceman’s clock.
Clock 1 will be observed to be about 1 second behind clock 2, as before. Because they are now in the same location, all observers will also see this same ~1 second difference, since any time delay in signal propagation to any location is the same from both clocks.
3. Now the other spaceman looks back at the other clock left behind.
Is the time on his clock is the same as the other clock.
Is the time on his clock is one second behind the other clock.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds behind the other clock.
Is the time on his clock is one second ahead of the other clock.
Is the time on his clock is two seconds ahead of the other clock.
Spaceman 1 and 2 both observe that clock 2 is reading approximately the same time as clock 3. Spaceman 1 and 2 both see clock 2 reading approximately 1 second ahead of clock 3 because of the time delay for the signal from clock 3 to reach them.