RC said:
John: Right in front, right here (indicating directly in front of him)_ I've got an older female who's coming through who's claiming to be Mom, and I feel there's a name like "Gloria" or something with a "G-L" sound they want me to say._ And they're telling me to say the person had back surgery._ Somebody definitely had this._ There's a March connection or the 3rd of a month has a meaning here also._ And somebody has a cousin that drowned._ It's right in front of me.
RC: My grandmother, "mom figure", has a G-L last name. There are several people in my family who have had back surgery, including my uncle who recently died. My father's birthday is in March, and my grandfather (G-L's husband)'s birthday is May 3rd.
Hi, RC. Not to bust your chops here, but your grandmother would not be considered a "mom" figure for you, unless she lived with you, or you lived with her, and she had a very major part in your upbringing. You don't mention whether or not that is the case here, but it's something that would be
required to be the case, if you were to try to claim this reading.
Nobody has drowned that I know.
Another reason then not to even think that this would be for you, RC. This is a very specific thing for JE to say, and if you can't relate.....well.....you can't relate.
That's why these specifics are given at the beginning of a reading. To identify the proper sitter.
John:_ And that would be like a contemporary to you._ Okay._ And is your Dad also passed?
RC: No, but both grandfathers, which are always accepted as "father figure"
Again, RC. That is incorrect. Your two grandfathers would
not be automatically accepted as "father figures". (see above)
John:_ Okay._ And there's a connection to someone who's Nicholas or Nicky?
RC: Big hit, my first partner of 7 years.
Obviously, a significant name for you, RC, but without having first established that this reading was for you, I don't think you could just go and claim it.
John:_ Okay._ And I also feel like, connected to your mom, that she's gotta have a sister who's passed because I've got like an aunt who's there for you._ Somebody who I would see as being like your family._ Older female, like mom, not grandmother.
RC: Deceased aunt
Just out of curiosity, RC, was this your mother's sister? Or you father's sister? You don't specify. The only reason I ask is because the first answer that Lela gave John was that, yes, her deceased mother-in-law did in fact have her sister or sisters there with her on the Other Side, but JE rejected that answer, saying that he felt the reference was to Lela's own mother's sister, who indeed, was passed as well. And just as an aside, a cold-reader would NEVER have rejected Lela's offering up her mother-in-law's sister as an answer, and held out for it being her own mother's sister.
John:_ Okay._ Somebody's very diabetic.
RC: Big hit, diabetes rampant in my family
This would be a decent hit for you, if it were your reading.
John:_ And the 17th is significant here also for this family._ She's claiming the 17th._ I think it's of December._ It's at the end of the year.
RC: November 17th is my parent's anniversary (end of year, would probably count as a hit)
Yes, it would have counted as a hit, but not nearly as specific a hit as John got with Lela.
John:_ I also feel like, I don't know if your Dad's gone like 35 years, but I've got somebody who's gone like back in the 60s or the late 50s._ I don't feel the presence of this man around for a long time._ Do you understand this?
RC: A few males in my family died in the 60's. This is too vague.
Yes, this was very vague. I'd have to agree with you there. JE didn't get too much of a sense of this spirit at all, and he says that. But it was obviously important to Lela because the only person she really wanted to hear from was her son, who had died all those years ago.
John:_ Okay._ Now, they want me to bring up the "train" references for you._ Now I know there's something about trains._ I don't know if somebody works in transportation, or if they....._ There's a train connection.
RC: No train connection in my family
No, and like I said, RC, the first things to come through are really important, as they are how JE determines who the reading is supposed to be for. That is very clearly demonstrated right here at this point, since Lela was not able to identify any longer with what JE was saying. JE was moving on to another energy, and so he rejected Lela's "school bus" reference, because he was clearly understanding that this had something to do with a train, and not a school bus, and that is what brought him to June, the first of the widows to speak up.
Between the "train" reference, and the "mental illness" reference, and the "husband or brother" reference, JE had enough proof to know he was with June.
John:_ It's not school buses._ It's a train._ It's specifically like, choo-choo,_ woo-woo._ That kind of a train thing._ As a matter of fact, it's a "high up" railroad._ Somebody did something high up on the railroad._ Like an overpass._ Like they had it built like, when the train goes between two things._ Was there somebody a little like, mentally "off" or unstable?
RC: Yes, mental illness in the family
John:_ Do you know what "Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome" is?
RC: Bigtime, was diagnosed with it after my partner died
John:_ Somebody in the family suffer from that?
RC: I did
John:_ There's a husband or a brother who's also here.
RC: My partner
And yes, RC, all those "mental illness" references could have been for you because of what you had been going through at the time with the loss of your partner, but first JE would have had to "get" to you, and the "train" reference would just not have done it. He would have had to come up with something specific that
you would have understood.
Anyhow, hope you don't mind that I critiqued your "me-too" reading, RC, but I just wanted to point out some of the consistancies that JE works with within the process of mediumship that would not have worked for you here.
....neo
