Comic strip a conspiracy myth

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Oh pull yourself together you 20yr old wuss... I didn't die in two world wars for the likes of you to go moping around with your floppy hair and your hip hop music, me lad, when I was your age I was working down pit 27 hours a day and we still had enough change for a fish supper and a cab home and a small semi in east grinstead eee by gum we were poor and our dad used to beat us mercilessly with a length pasta (al dente) so don't you talk to me about having a hard life, when you've only got half a liver and no onions then I'll listen but after what the french did to me on the burma railway I'll never eat caviar again, I can tell you.
 
uk_dave said:
Oh pull yourself together you 20yr old wuss... I didn't die in two world wars for the likes of you to go moping around with your floppy hair and your hip hop music, me lad, when I was your age I was working down pit 27 hours a day and we still had enough change for a fish supper and a cab home and a small semi in east grinstead eee by gum we were poor and our dad used to beat us mercilessly with a length pasta (al dente) so don't you talk to me about having a hard life, when you've only got half a liver and no onions then I'll listen but after what the french did to me on the burma railway I'll never eat caviar again, I can tell you.
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At least you had a home... we used to live in a hole in the road... all sixteen of us.
 
chipmunk stew said:
It's the obvious choice. It's almost as if the artist were deliberately caricaturing him. It's very evocative of Mr. Avery.

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These photos are physically painful to look at. Is it just me?
 
Really? A quick check finds no evidence for that. There was this however:

Scientific studies have investigated noni's effect on the growth of cancerous tissue. One such study found that noni inhibited and reduced growth of the capillary vessels sprouting from human breast tumor explants and, at increased concentrations, the noni caused existing vessels to rapidly degenerate.
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(January 2003) "Inhibition of angiogenic initiation and disruption of newly established human vascular networks by juice from Morinda citrifolia (noni)". Angiogenesis 6 (2): 143-9. ISSN 0969-6970.


Another scientific study showed one brand of noni juice to have prevented formation of cancer cells in rats (using detection methods of bio-chemical markers called DNA adducts). It further showed to reduce the number of DNA adducts in rats induced with carcinogenic DMBA, in some cases, by up to 90%. The same study then also looked at the effective anti-oxidant properties of this Tahitian Noni brand of noni juice, (via LPO and TNB-SAR assays) comparing with the free-radical properties of vitamin C, grape seed powder (GSP), and pycnogenol (PYC) at the daily dose per serving level recommended by U.S. RDAs or manufacturers. This noni juice brand was shown to be more effective than all three. Their conclusion: "The results suggest that prevention of carcinogen-DNA adduct formation and the antioxidant activity of TNJ may contribute to the cancer preventive effect of Morinda citrifolia."
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Wang MY, Su C (December 2001). "Cancer preventive effect of Morinda citrifolia (Noni).". Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 952: 161-8. PMID: 11795436.
 
robinson said:
Really? A quick check finds no evidence for that. There was this however:



(January 2003) "Inhibition of angiogenic initiation and disruption of newly established human vascular networks by juice from Morinda citrifolia (noni)". Angiogenesis 6 (2): 143-9. ISSN 0969-6970.




Wang MY, Su C (December 2001). "Cancer preventive effect of Morinda citrifolia (Noni).". Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 952: 161-8. PMID: 11795436.
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That's great, but what does it do for my hair?!
 
robinson said:
Where do you find Noni on that page? I read the patent, it doesn't mention Noni at all.

It is mentoned here -
http://www.google.com/patents?id=4wYkAAAAEBAJ&dq=noni+juice

But not in any way as a drain cleaner.
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Just to be sure we're reading the same thing, it's patent 4666606. If you click the "read this patent" button, it takes you to an image of the actual patent, with the search terms highlighted. "Noni" appears in col. 4, lines 50-68, and at least a few more times in col. 5 and 6.

It doesn't apear in the claims, which is the majority of the text on the page I directly linked to, but if you can get the image as mentioned above, you should see it.


ETA: tsg's link gives you a full text version of the description, so you could search that for "noni" as well.
 
So, who is going to do the "floorwax/dessert topping" comic for Noni juice?
 
It should also be noted that Dr. Ralph Heinicke, the listed inventor on the patent application, is on the Advisory Board of Tahitian Noni International.

At the time I was researching this (it may have changed since then), that was the only patent I could find for either Tahitian Noni or Dr. Ralph Heinicke, while the Tahitian Noni website included a claim of Noni Juice being patented. The patent claim appeared with the usual "non health claims" that allow them to lead you to believe it will cure everything from arthritis to cancer without having to be regulated by the FDA. Of course, what wasn't on the website was that the patent was for use as drain cleaner.

If there is a desire for further discussion, I would suggest starting another thread.
 
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