The testimony of Pentagon police officers SGT Lagasse and SGT Brooks.

Lyte Trip said:
Uh yeah sorry I must have only gotten a C in crash science class.
:rolleyes:

Bottom line; the only remotely significant pieces of aircraft that were reported found are limited to these right here:
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Why are truthers always wrong? Everything truthers say is just a lie or wrong. Why?

You are wrong, you failed to show all the other parts. Failure is a truther trait?

How many accident investigation courses have you taken?
 
Totovader said:
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And then we laughed.

A lot.

As one viewer put it- the video debunks itself. Amazing. I expect nothing less from a "researcher edition".
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You laughed because you are in denial or you don't understand the implications.

No logical unbiased person denies that the plane was on the north side of the citgo after seeing this testimony.

Simply won't happen.

Unfortunately you can't find many of those in this forum.
 
beachnut said:
Why are truthers always wrong? Everything truthers say is just a lie or wrong. Why?

You are wrong, you failed to show all the other parts. Failure is a truther trait?

How many accident investigation courses have you taken?
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Bust out!

Sure there are a few other scraps.

But nothing more significant.
 
Hi everyone. After a long suspension due to "discrepancies" on my account I have been allowed back after literally proving my real identity to the moderators.

I found this to be an odd request since most discussion boards are anonymous and I had already been posting here for a few months but I am not trying to hide my identity so I complied.
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Having to prove your real identity to the moderators before you can participate in an open and anonymus forum, must be highly irregular?

Well, I've already noticed that the forum moderators hardly can be described as unbiased. Any comments from the mods?
 
Lyte Trip said:
Bust out!

Sure there are a few other scraps.

But nothing more significant.
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Why are you always wrong? Your witnesses who were inteviewed in 2001 make your whole story just a lie. Your false statement now about the crash scene and about DNA is another lie.

You are posting now just lies. Your film is a failure and with the interviews from 2001 and thousands of pieces of evidence and hundreds of witnesses your film is an outright lie.

You have said things that are not true and you have you own witnesses to debunk you 5 years before you published you lies.

Seeing as repition has failed to help make a point and your continued lies are boring. If you want to be a liar go ahead make your case. You are just a pathetic liar.

http://memory.loc.gov/learn/collecti...1/history.html

Here are your own witnesses contradicting every single thing you say!

American Airlines Flight 77 from Washington-Dulles International Airport crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. William Lagasse, Chadwick Brooks, and Donald Brennan were Pentagon police officers on duty at the time of the attack. Lagasse was in the process of refueling his police car when the American Airliner flew past him so low that its wind blast knocked him into his vehicle. In an interview conducted in December 2001 , Lagasse described the secondary explosions and the search and recovery of injured Pentagon personnel. Brooks saw the hijacked plane clip lampposts and nosedive into the Pentagon and described the ensuing scenes of chaos in his interview, taped November 25, 2001.

You can not even find witnesses to support your lies!

Debunked 5 years ago. This is a classic! Wow.
 
I will admit I had higher hopes for the critical thinking skills of the people in this forum.

I figured at least a couple of you would be strong enough to rise above the groupthink and at least admit that the testimony is compelling and raises serious questions.

Pentagon police officers for god's sake!

I could see how you guys would blow it off if all we had was Robert Turcios but come on fellas!

Not one but 2 cops!

Who are so insanely certain about such a simple and significant claim.

I know deep down inside some of you are a bit wigged out by this.

I know it's hard to admit especially in this forum but simply to let your mind go there at all.

If any of you want to open an anonymous civil intellectual dialog with me in private about this feel free to hit me up on myspace or something.

I know you don't want to seem weak in front of the gang when dealing with a woowoo twoofer.

Anyway I just thought I'd throw that out there.
 
beachnut said:
You can not even find witnesses to support your lies!

Debunked 5 years ago. This is a classic! Wow.
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Why do you guys keep saying this over and over?

We are simply reporting what the witnesses claim they saw.

They ALL saw the plane on the north side of the station.

THAT is the smoking gun.

NOTHING from their previous interviews contradicts this.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Why do you guys keep saying this over and over?

We are simply reporting what the witnesses claim they saw.

They ALL saw the plane on the north side of the station.

THAT is the smoking gun.

NOTHING from their previous interviews contradicts this.
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http://memory.loc.gov/learn/collecti...1/history.html

Wrong you have not listened, they debunk everything you say, every single thing you say!

American Airlines Flight 77 from Washington-Dulles International Airport crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. William Lagasse, Chadwick Brooks, and Donald Brennan were Pentagon police officers on duty at the time of the attack. Lagasse was in the process of refueling his police car when the American Airliner flew past him so low that its wind blast knocked him into his vehicle. In an interview conducted in December 2001 , Lagasse described the secondary explosions and the search and recovery of injured Pentagon personnel. Brooks saw the hijacked plane clip lampposts and nosedive into the Pentagon and described the ensuing scenes of chaos in his interview, taped November 25, 2001.

Your witnesses do not support your lies!

Debunked 5 years before you knew it.
 
Why are you repeating yourself like a robot?

Plus you make no sense.

NOTHING contradicts the north side claim in those accounts.

NOTHING
 
Lyte Trip said:
None specifically claim the plane was on the south of the citgo station therefore none directly contradict the citgo witnesses placement of the plane.
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OMG you're being purposefully obtuse


THE WITNESSES WEREN'T NEAR THE CITGO STATION SO THEIR TESTIMONY WILL NOT SAY THAT IT WAS SOUTH OF CITGO! DAMN ITS LIKE ARGUING WITH A 4 YEAR OLD WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TOP FROM BOTTOM IS!

All that matters from their testimony is;
what they saw
when they saw it
and where they were standing

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE NEAR THE CITGO STATION OR NOT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE USING THE CITGO STATION TO ESTABLISH WHERE THE PLANE FLEW IN FROM!!!
 
Lyte Trip said:
Why are you repeating yourself like a robot?

Plus you make no sense.

NOTHING contradicts the north side claim in those accounts.

NOTHING
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You did not listen. Try again. Your own witnesses contradicts the north side. So does the FDR.

This is where Lyte's witnesses can be found debunking his whole theory five years before he even started to tell lies about 9/11. Ironic. These guys went through a tough event and it is fresh 5 years ago. Hear the guys who responded first on 9/11 at the Pentagon tell the story of flight 77 and the Pentagon. Not clouded by 5 years of tough memories.

http://memory.loc.gov/learn/collecti...1/history.html

American Airlines Flight 77 from Washington-Dulles International Airport crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. William Lagasse, Chadwick Brooks, and Donald Brennan were Pentagon police officers on duty at the time of the attack. Lagasse was in the process of refueling his police car when the American Airliner flew past him so low that its wind blast knocked him into his vehicle. In an interview conducted in December 2001 , Lagasse described the secondary explosions and the search and recovery of injured Pentagon personnel. Brooks saw the hijacked plane clip lampposts and nosedive into the Pentagon and described the ensuing scenes of chaos in his interview, taped November 25, 2001.

Your witnesses prove your video wrong, and you wrong. Listen please. It proves you wrong, if you do not listen you will not know.
 
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Arus808 said:
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE NEAR THE CITGO STATION OR NOT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE USING THE CITGO STATION TO ESTABLISH WHERE THE PLANE FLEW IN FROM!!!
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Well the citgo sation is the only visible landmark nearby for anyone that could see the alleged impact zone of the pentagon.

Besides.

All of the witnesses that WERE in a position to tell saw the same thing.

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Lyte Trip said:
Well the citgo sation is the only visible landmark nearby for anyone that could see the alleged impact zone of the pentagon.
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false.
the pentagon would be the visible landmark for those on the FREEWAY

Besides.

All of the witnesses that WERE in a position to tell saw the same thing.
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as pointed you several times, YOUR OWN witnesses tell a different story 5 years ago.

AGAIN;

PHYSICAL EVIDENCE TRUMPS EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY
 
lyte, when are you going to inteview the firefighters on duty?
the rescue workers?
the clean up crew?
the hundreds of witnesses who were on the freeway?

why haven't you interviewed these people?
 
Arus808 said:
lyte, when are you going to inteview the firefighters on duty?
the rescue workers?
the clean up crew?
the hundreds of witnesses who were on the freeway?

why haven't you interviewed these people?
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Because they didn't see the plane.
 
So Lyte, will the researchers edition have better camera work and audio than the smoking gun edition? Because the production values were woeful.

I realise you guys aren't professional film makers, but really how hard is it to hold a camera at least a bit steady or use a microphone?

One of the biggest drawbacks for me of your movie was that the technical aspects made it nearly totally unwatchable.

Sorry if this seems like nit-picking, but seriously, presentation is important.

OH and your witnesses were mistaken about the Northside flightpath. You might try to fix that little problem as well.
 
Lyte Trip said:
He said the same thing in our film so therefore there are no "differences".

But the fact is that if his placement of the plane was remotely correct then it can not be what caused the physical damage.
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Aha, ok. But to me that gives this from your "dilemma"

Lyte Trip said:
1. You believe that they were correct in their belief that the plane made impact.

2. You believe that they were remotely correct in their independent placement of the plane.
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Statement 1 was made both in 2001 and in 2005
Statement 2 only in 2005

Am I correct?

Did you point out to Sgt Lagasse that his placement of the plane as going north of Citgo in your opinion makes the official record, and possibly his recollection of "American Airlines" hitting Pentagon, impossible? Something in the lines of:

"Sgt Lagasse, are you aware of the fact that if the plane went where you today, 2005, say it went, would mean that it couldn't have hit the lightpoles, that it goes against the testimony of the cab driver and that it would mean the plane couldn't have made the damages it allegedly did"?


Cheers,
S
 
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Lyte.

How do you explain the DNA found at the scene, which fits the passengers on flight 77? There were 102 specialists analysing that DNA. There are family members that had relatives on that flight, who donated DNA samples for the positive ID. Are they all lying?

How do you explain, that not a single person in the world saw a fly-over?

How do you explain, that no radar in the world shows flight 77 after it hit the Pentagon?

How do you explain the damage, that fits that of a plane?

How do you explain the debris, that fits that of a flight 77?


If you only answer one of these, answer the first one please.
 
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