Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters

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belz wrote:
Oh, and would you mind telling me if you admit to beign wrong on our word-play issue ? Or may I simply assume that you're lying about it ?
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Feel free to assume anything you want, belz.....it's your brain.

Feel free also to make your case as to exactly why I'm wrong...or lying.

I'm not wrong, as far as I can tell.
But please........feel free to enlighten me.....:)

I've been very busy lately...but I'll get back to the discussion soon.
 
Feel free to assume anything you want, belz.....it's your brain.

Feel free also to make your case as to exactly why I'm wrong...or lying.
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I've done so already. You had admitted that I was correct in that interpretation, and then you backtracked.

If you can't be bothered to check back on that discussion although I've provided a link back to it three times, then I'll just go with the assumption that you are lying. I'd rather believe you're just deluded, but then an honest, deluded person COULD be bothered with checking this.
 
LAL said:
"ENVIRONMENT: It was on a mainline logging road at the bottom of a mountain side that consists of rock bluffs and patchy timber. The surrounding forest consists of mostly 2nd growth fir with a river and bridge just beyond the sighting location."
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Mainline logging road. I was wrong and missed that, thank you. I was thinking from the report that it didn't sound like a little dirt logging road.
LAL said:
No. Did I say there aren't any reports from the east coast? Evidently there are more from the wetter, heavily forested west coast.
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Did you happen to notice that the first six of the most recent Vancouver Island reports in BFRO's database are not from the west coast (all east except for the newest)? Not to mention the most recent (2006/2007) is from the outskirts of my hometown, Victoria. Not the most stellar report.
 
LAL said:
I've already posted nine consecutive Titmus casts and more Laverty photos:
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Are these supposed to be some kind of answer to my post on toe movement? If that's the best that can be offered for a clear look at toe movement in sequential tracks than I think calling that bigfootery myth busted is not premature.
 
LAL said:
You two should really apply some critical thinking to that work.
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Huh? You mean the kind of thinking where we take someone's word that it was made by bigfoot even when they are shown otherwise? Not very critical if you ask me.
LAL said:
Tube has shown he can produce pouring lines by using a dessicant. He has not proven that's what happened that day on Onion Mountain. For Chilcutt to call a ridge a dermal ridge, it has to have the characteristics (Galton details):

http://www.policensw.com/info/finger.../finger08.html

Where are those on the test casts? Where's the silica in OM soil?
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Yes, what did happen at Onion Mountain that day? Well, for one thing, tracking dogs showed no interest in the tracks which were poor and few. What does John Green think of the OM issue? Also, what does he think of the Bossburg casts? I know, do you?

As for Skookum, yes, we've been through it before. Now just why does the bigfoot go to so much effort to leave no tracks while leaving a great big imprint that looks just like an elk lay which is surrounded by elk tracks? I know you disagree with the latter part of that question so let's stick to the first.
 
Source for the General Putnam Account

The Putnam County Historical Society OR the Town of South East Historical Society MAY STILL have the documents.
I did my show from 1996-2000, and got a transcribed "copy" from one of the curators.

General Putnam and General Ludington(County named for Putnam, town of Ludingtonville named for Ludington) were considered sober, rational men
who were not given to flights of fancy.
Sybil Ludington, our "County Heroine" rode from Danbury Connecticut
to Carmel--a distance of around 15 miles, at breakneck speed, to give the news to General Putnam and her father, that the british were buring Danbury
and subsequently would be traveling down South and West, to Brewster,
Carmel, etc.

I believe the sighting is one of to things:
a mistaken identity--there were Indian tribes nearby, and in those days
there were bears and very large white tail and red, deer--the Indians
performed hunting and war rituals wearing hides(the warriors were called
"Bear Soldiers" because they wore bear skins and acted like angry bears
in combat)
OR
a mountain man/trapper who got stuck in the middle of a skirmish--
the area is STILL known as a fertile one for beavers, muskrats, possums,
racoons, etc.
 
Very interesting post, tony! For anyone who's interested in tony's amazing, if not coherent, resume, why not have a boo? tony, do you have any evidence of your NYPD Unusual Occurrences/Satanic cult division, English professor, psycho-therapist, television show host, writer, and private investigator work that we might see?
 
tony.d. said:
The Putnam County Historical Society OR the Town of South East Historical Society MAY STILL have the documents.
I did my show from 1996-2000, and got a transcribed "copy" from one of the curators.

General Putnam and General Ludington(County named for Putnam, town of Ludingtonville named for Ludington) were considered sober, rational men
who were not given to flights of fancy.
Sybil Ludington, our "County Heroine" rode from Danbury Connecticut
to Carmel--a distance of around 15 miles, at breakneck speed, to give the news to General Putnam and her father, that the british were buring Danbury
and subsequently would be traveling down South and West, to Brewster,
Carmel, etc.
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I am not trying to be difficult here, because it really is off-topic, but your answer seems a bit obfuscating. Specifically, what record are you quoting? A military report? From whom to whom? A newspaper account? A personal letter? Colonel Ludington did command the local militia in Putnam county, but in referring to Sybil Ludington's famous ride, you seem to be suggesting that this "devil struck" incident took place during the Danbury raid of April 1777. General Putnam was in command in Princeton NJ at the time, not on any battlefield, and Ludington's militia never caught the British, who punished the American forces in Ridgefield, CT. There was no cease-fire in that battle. Can you be more specific?
 
belz wrote:
I've done so already. You had admitted that I was correct in that interpretation, and then you backtracked.
I've provided a link back to it three times,
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What are you talking about, belz? I really don't understand what point you're trying to make.
Could you summarize it?


I'll explain the point that I've been making.....once again.

I have no problem doing so. I'm more than happy :D to point out how distorted your translation, or interpretation of Greg's statement is.

Greg's statement says, basically...
"I'm not aware of any Bigfoot evidence which rises to the level of "WEAK"."

Your "translation" of it.....

"I'm not aware of any Bigfoot evidence which is CONVINCING, or "STRONG"."

There is a significant difference between the meanings of those two statements.
Would you agree with that, belz?
 
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belz....you failed to answer a few questions of mine from post#3328.

From that post...
Do you really have NO idea what my point has been all along, belz?
I'd be happy to go over it again for you.

It looks as though you may be playing a word game, now....picking on a technicality.

Is there a real difference in the meaning of these two statements?....

A) The evidence for Bigfoot is "worthless"

and....

B) The evidence for Bigfoot does not have "ANY degree of likeliness, however small..."

If there is a difference...concerning the WEIGHT being given to the evidence, could you explain what it is?
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For Kitikaze et al, a "defense of myself"

Kitikaze:
I taught at:
St. Nicholas of Tolentine High School in 1986
Westchester Community College 1995-1996
Mercy College 1997-1999
Dutchess Community College 1999-2000
Berkeley College 2000-2001
Westchester Community College 2001, 2003, 2004
Brewster Central School District 2004(adult ed. program)
West Conn. State U. 2004-2005(adult ed. program)
Substitute taught in middle and high school in Carmel School District
2002
Dutchess Community College(adult ed.) 2001
I have given seminars on creative writing at libraries all over new york, connecticut, upper new jersey since 1986

I was an investigative journalist for the Putnam Trader Newspaper
a division of Gannett Papers Syndicate
I was in NYPD from 1991-1994
I was an Administrative Duty Officer at first, then was assigned to
archiving Unusual Occurance Reports(WHICH, KITIKAZE SARCASTIC AS YOU ARE--DOES NOT MEAN X-FILES TYPE THINGS! IT MEANS ANYTHING NOT CLASSIFIED AS "CRIMINAL" INCIDENTS OR "AIDED CASE" INCIDENTS(THSOE INVOLVING MENTALLY ILL OR THE VIOLENT HOMELESS)
The Cult/Satanic Crime "Unit" consisted of three active personnel, working
with author Maury Terry and using the resources furnished by David
Berkowitz
I was an Confidential Informant for Putnam County Sheriff Dept. for a while
and recently helped the FBI(special agent Powers was my contact)
The TV Show I had was a sporadic affair(because of my personal life)
and it was on RCN cable, shown on Public Access channel 8

If you do not like me or what I post, Kitikaze, THEN YOU ARE FREE TO IGNORE ME!

ABOUT THE "Monster Report" from the Rev. War:

I dealt with an elderly lady who was anal retentive in the extreme, and paranoid about her job--which was a volunteer position "guarding" the "history" of the County. She did not let me see the physical documents, nor did she do much other than
transcribe the incident onto a sheet of yellow legal pad paper.
I cannot verify where or when the Generals performed their duties, I
just report the story I was told and which has been a sort of obscure
local legend!
AT THE TIME I WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN GHOST, ETC. LEGENDS OF THE COUNTY AND NOT IN GENERAL HISTORY. THE VIDEO I MADE WAS DONATED
TO THE TOWN TO BE SHOWN ON LOCAL CABLE PROVIDER PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL 8.

I do hope this clears up any questions?
I AM NOT ON THIS FORUM TO MAKE ENEMIES OR TO GET PEOPLE MAD AT ME!
I AM ON HERE TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AS FOR MY CURRENT PART TIME OCCUPATION, I AM LICENSED BY FLORIDA
AS A CLASS "C" PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR. MY LICENSE NUMBER (AS ASSIGNED
AT THIS TIME) IS 2600836..

KITIKAZE, IF YOU WISH TO INTERROGATE ME FURTHER, YOU CAN PM ME!
 
Tony D. :

I am not trying to bust your chops here-- I'll drop this because it doesn't really matter, anyway, to the topic of this thread. I've taught creative writing and been a journalist as well, so we have something in common. But as a scholar, it bothers me when an " 'officially' documented sighting" turns out to be from an anonymous elderly lady on a yellow notepad, 230 years after the event. This is how pseudo-history happens.
Putnam was, as you surely know, a famous and even Bunyanesque figure in his time, who accrued many colorful anecdotes, but in his military life he was also very well documented-- and I've never seen anything like that story, not in Humphrey's 1818 biography, not in the more sensational later biographies, which hewed only casually to the truth. A story like that would have been gold to a Victorian biographer. There is, if memory serves, a Putnam story from the French and Indian war where an Indian warrior dressed in a bear skin crept into camp before being killed, so perhaps we can see elements of the story there.

Anyway, no anger here, and I won't say another word on the subject, OK?

tony.d. said:
ABOUT THE "Monster Report" from the Rev. War:

I dealt with an elderly lady who was anal retentive in the extreme, and paranoid about her job--which was a volunteer position "guarding" the "history" of the County. She did not let me see the physical documents, nor did she do much other than
transcribe the incident onto a sheet of yellow legal pad paper.
I cannot verify where or when the Generals performed their duties, I
just report the story I was told and which has been a sort of obscure
local legend!
AT THE TIME I WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN GHOST, ETC. LEGENDS OF THE COUNTY AND NOT IN GENERAL HISTORY. THE VIDEO I MADE WAS DONATED
TO THE TOWN TO BE SHOWN ON LOCAL CABLE PROVIDER PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL 8.

I do hope this clears up any questions?
I AM NOT ON THIS FORUM TO MAKE ENEMIES OR TO GET PEOPLE MAD AT ME!
I AM ON HERE TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
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My apologies, Tony. Welcome to the forum. Please do not think I dislike you. I'm sure you have lots of fun anecdotes to share. You may find the strange all caps abuse from an English professor, the infiltrationi deep cover stuff, special agent Powers, etc to raise a few eyebrows. 'All Our Aliens Lovers' sounds like an interesting read, though. BTW, the Japanese New York physics professor you were critical of but couldn't quite remember elsewhere is Japanese American theoretical physicist Michio Kaku. Very cool guy, IMO.
 
SweatyYeti said:
What are you talking about, belz? I really don't understand what point you're trying to make.

Could you summarize it?
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I did, again and again. You're just stalling, or mentally challenged.

I have no problem doing so. I'm more than happy :D to point out how distorted your translation, or interpretation of Greg's statement is.
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Then I take it you retract your admission that my interpretation was correct ?

"I'm not aware of any Bigfoot evidence which rises to the level of "WEAK"."

Your "translation" of it.....

"I'm not aware of any Bigfoot evidence which is CONVINCING, or "STRONG"."
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You, sir, are a liar, plain and simple. I never said anything of the sort. You have been cornered on a simple interpretation of syntax, and you're not even man enough to admit it.
 
For those who think sighting reports and blurry movies are good evidence...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e27_1173581537

Several witnesses, cops included! And they seem sincere, don't they?

And there's also a blurry film!

Those who rely on sighting reports and blurry movies as evidence for bigfeet should also consider witches are real. Lets fund a WRO!
 
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