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PS Audio Noise Harvester

Since he talks of evil, it would not surprise me if he brought into the bible to.

Paul

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osmosis said:
If by "the truth", you mean yet another one of your lame-brained opinions, then yes I for one would much prefer to just laugh at it.

That must be the kind of "truth" you're talking about, as it's the only kind you'll ever know.
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I don't have a brain. I'm as much human as you are the car you drive.

The truth is something everyone will disagree on. Imagine you play a chess game and you can only think 5 moves ahead while someone else can think 50 moves ahead, you will disagree with him because you have limited knowledge which you are 100% sure is accurate. The problem is your brain capacity isn't good enough to know that other possibilities exist, it will always be incomplete. Humans will always be flawed but they think they are right because of their incomplete knowledge and limited understanding. When they measure things they are 100% correct but in the big picture they are always wrong. They fail to realize that, instead they just laugh because they are afraid of the unknown, they are afraid of the truth.
 
osmosis said:
You are talking about people who have actually worked to refine their skills and have presumably acquired some sort of discipline as well.

I just don't see how ES fits in with your analogy. When ES wants some new skills he just "goes deep down inside" and retrieves them, since they were always there in the first place. Why should he have to waste his precious time listening, thinking, working when it's all so easy for him?
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Inventing something is just adding pieces of already existing knowledge together.

Skeptics need to see a completed puzzle to believe it is a puzzle. While the more sane people can see the puzzle even if the pieces are spread all over the place.

It's the same with numbers, skeptics can only see proof from numbers while the audiophiles can hear it from listening. The skeptics won't understand that because they aren't able to see the pieces spread out, they want the puzzle to be completed because that's the only way they can understand.
 
He doesn't know what a clone is either, it happens all the time with plants, and twins are clones.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
Since he talks of evil, it would not surprise me if he brought into the bible to.

Paul

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People want to make themselves believe that someone is there to protect them because their minds are so weak. It doesn't matter if it's a bearded old man sitting on a cloud in the sky with mouth full of grillz with jewelry and gold chains hanging from his neck. Whatever makes them happy.
Weak people like to have false beliefs because it makes them stronger and they can do things they normally couldn't do on their own.

People who think someone is "good" is really evil instead, but they fail to realize it because they want to continue with their false beliefs which makes them stronger. The more time that passes by the harder it is to get them back to reality.
 
Paulhoff said:
He doesn't know what a clone is either, it happens all the time with plants, and twins are clones.

Paul

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A clone occupying a different spot is affected by different external influences. Both of them are not the same because they won't end up being the same.
A plant in front of another identical plant gets more sunshine...
 
He doesn't know what they mean by clone, and he does believe in magical thinking.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
He doesn't know what they mean by clone, and he does believe in magical thinking.

Paul

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The most intelligent people are the ones who are the worst at communicating.

Even if I didn't know what they mean with clone I wouldn't care because it's just another primitive flawed language. When I was an ignorant kid I studied humans on this planet and know about their primitive behaviour. I know psychology and have studied placebo. Skeptics don't realize that placebo works both ways. When people read this thread it's pretty obvious who is having the placebo here. The one who bought the Harvester not expecting to hear a difference or the one who bought it to test if you he would hear it or not.

How else can I predict your responses if I haven't studied you humans first? They can be predicted like plants because they are brainwashed by society, they are followers of false beliefs. They can't think by themselves.
 
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ExtremeSkeptic said:
I practice a skill far more advanced than violin, it takes forever to master it. Nobody else will understand it and I accept that because I accept all possibilities.

Many have already made up their minds and don't want anything to change their minds, so they have locked themselves inside a box and thrown away the key. Only a fool would try to convert them because that possibility would still remain and there is nothing you can do about it. When looking at this thread you see skeptics trying to convert the audiophiles...it's not hard to see who lacks the proper logic.

The audiophiles who try to convert the skeptics are almost as bad. Because the skeptics aren't interested in getting proper audio quality, they want to live in their dream world with their measurement toys and primitive microprocessors. If they want limited understanding it's their choice. They are afraid of the unknown, that's why they only believe what is written in simple books. But being afraid of the unknown doesn't lead you anywhere. Like they say, ignorance is bliss. But they don't realize they are ignorant themselves, because it isn't written in their books.
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Pray tell, to what sort of music are you listening with your super equipment? And what component of this music does cause the strongest reaction in your super brain?
 
ExtremeSkeptic said:
I don't have a brain. I'm as much human as you are the car you drive.
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And about as intelligent.

Just wondering, if human is so beneath you, why do you persist in the foolish human pursuit of wasting your time and money tweaking? Why then do you share their delusions about hearing nonexistent differences? If you're better than human, why is it you appear exactly like so many other less-than-enlightened humans? Is it a clever disguise, or is that just all my little human mind can comprehend?

That's funny, I always imagined a superior being as knowing better than to stick a bunch of crystals and rocks on their head, but I guess that's just another of my human limitations.

Perhaps it's more a case of, if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it's probably...

crap.

ExtremeSkeptic said:
The truth is something everyone will disagree on.
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So?
 
osmosis said:
You are talking about people who have actually worked to refine their skills and have presumably acquired some sort of discipline as well.

I just don't see how ES fits in with your analogy. When ES wants some new skills he just "goes deep down inside" and retrieves them, since they were always there in the first place. Why should he have to waste his precious time listening, thinking, working when it's all so easy for him?
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Ah, yes, you are right. I'd like to see (not necessarily to hear) ES "go deep down inside", take a violin and a bow and try to play Milsteins Paganiniana. :))
 
EternalSceptic said:
Ah, yes, you are right. I'd like to see (not necessarily to hear) ES "go deep down inside", take a violin and a bow and try to play Milsteins Paganiniana. :))
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Well... you probably wouldn't be advanced enough to appreciate the advanced nuances (similar to advanced physics) he would place in his interpretation.
 
EternalSceptic said:
Pray tell, to what sort of music are you listening with your super equipment? And what component of this music does cause the strongest reaction in your super brain?
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I listen to complex trance music that have multiple layers of transients in them. It demands more from the system than "Reference" classical albums. It's much easier to hear the improvement from a tweak with trance music.

I don't have emotion when listening to music, I just want to hear it properly.
 
osmosis said:
And about as intelligent.

Just wondering, if human is so beneath you, why do you persist in the foolish human pursuit of wasting your time and money tweaking? Why then do you share their delusions about hearing nonexistent differences? If you're better than human, why is it you appear exactly like so many other less-than-enlightened humans? Is it a clever disguise, or is that just all my little human mind can comprehend?

That's funny, I always imagined a superior being as knowing better than to stick a bunch of crystals and rocks on their head, but I guess that's just another of my human limitations.

Perhaps it's more a case of, if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it's probably...

crap.



So?
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You made the assumption that tweaks don't make any real differences, which means that you have blocked a possibility because it makes you feel better about yourself. Blocking a possibility is blocking the truth. It's not hard to see who lacks the proper intelligence.
 
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